Any information on what the "fast track through the recruiting process" prize really means? My interpretation of this is that if I win I get an interview, with no guarantee of a job offer, and Yelp has all the rights to my winning model code. Correct?
", "messages": [ { "id": "107245", "postDate": "02/08/2016 19:13:28", "content": "Any information on what the "fast track through the recruiting process" prize really means? My interpretation of this is that if I win I get an interview, with no guarantee of a job offer, and Yelp has all the rights to my winning model code. Correct?
", "rawMarkdown": "Any information on what the \"fast track through the recruiting process\" prize really means? My interpretation of this is that if I win I get an interview, with no guarantee of a job offer, and Yelp has all the rights to my winning model code. Correct?", "votes": null }, { "id": "108328", "postDate": "02/16/2016 18:32:58", "content": "Typically there are a few steps before you have a conversation with an engineer: resume check, simple code and prescreen questions, and a conversation about fit with a recruiter. This means we might miss folks who are new to data mining and machine learning. This contest is a chance to let the results speak for themselves -- if you can create great algorithms, then it doesn't matter what you have on your resume, we want to talk to you.
\n\nOf course, the trade-off is that contestants have to put in the effort to demonstrate their ability, and still go through an interview process. We hope both are fun, but they are work. Releasing features at Yelp is about more than writing an algorithm alone with supplied data and one metric, so we need to test for the other abilities as well. That means we can't guarantee a job offer.
\n\nWe're using the standard rules regarding ownership of the model, let us know if you have feedback on those.
", "rawMarkdown": "Typically there are a few steps before you have a conversation with an engineer: resume check, simple code and prescreen questions, and a conversation about fit with a recruiter. This means we might miss folks who are new to data mining and machine learning. This contest is a chance to let the results speak for themselves -- if you can create great algorithms, then it doesn't matter what you have on your resume, we want to talk to you.\r\n\r\nOf course, the trade-off is that contestants have to put in the effort to demonstrate their ability, and still go through an interview process. We hope both are fun, but they are work. Releasing features at Yelp is about more than writing an algorithm alone with supplied data and one metric, so we need to test for the other abilities as well. That means we can't guarantee a job offer.\r\n\r\nWe're using the standard rules regarding ownership of the model, let us know if you have feedback on those.", "votes": null }, { "id": "108996", "postDate": "02/22/2016 09:59:49", "content": "[quote=SpammySmith;107245]
\n\nAny information on what the "fast track through the recruiting process" prize really means? My interpretation of this is that if I win I get an interview, with no guarantee of a job offer, and Yelp has all the rights to my winning model code. Correct?
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\n\nI think your interpretation is correct. I don't want to be a negative nancy, but basically there's no prize.
\n\nIf you have an appropriate resume and live in the right place or are willing to relocate then you can get a job at a company like Yelp without this contest.
\n\nI'm a veteran of Silicon Valley and let me say that while there's a lot of workplace "indoctrination" at "shops" like this, getting a job with Internet companies like Yelp, Facebook, Google, or any of the vast number of advertising companies or start-ups isn't very difficult. If you're willing to go to the San Francisco / San Jose bay area and make your entire life revolve around your job and your cut-throat co-workers, then they will want to keep you there for life.
\n\nIMHO they should get over themselves and offer a cash prize. Especially for a contest involving hundreds of thousands of image files, which takes more resources than the Data Science Bowl. Home Depot has a much more computationally cheap contest to participate in and they offer both jobs and cash prizes.
\n\nCome on, Yelp. Step up. Offer $40k or something creative like a photo of the winner on Yelp.com with a link to their CV for a month. That will get you 10x as many participants.
", "rawMarkdown": "[quote=SpammySmith;107245]\r\n\r\nAny information on what the \"fast track through the recruiting process\" prize really means? My interpretation of this is that if I win I get an interview, with no guarantee of a job offer, and Yelp has all the rights to my winning model code. Correct?\r\n\r\n[/quote]\r\n\r\nI think your interpretation is correct. I don't want to be a negative nancy, but basically there's no prize.\r\n\r\nIf you have an appropriate resume and live in the right place or are willing to relocate then you can get a job at a company like Yelp without this contest. \r\n\r\nI'm a veteran of Silicon Valley and let me say that while there's a lot of workplace \"indoctrination\" at \"shops\" like this, getting a job with Internet companies like Yelp, Facebook, Google, or any of the vast number of advertising companies or start-ups isn't very difficult. If you're willing to go to the San Francisco / San Jose bay area and make your entire life revolve around your job and your cut-throat co-workers, then they will want to keep you there for life.\r\n\r\nIMHO they should get over themselves and offer a cash prize. Especially for a contest involving hundreds of thousands of image files, which takes more resources than the Data Science Bowl. Home Depot has a much more computationally cheap contest to participate in and they offer both jobs *and* cash prizes.\r\n\r\nCome on, Yelp. Step up. Offer $40k or something creative like a photo of the winner on Yelp.com with a link to their CV for a month. That will get you 10x as many participants.", "votes": null }, { "id": "109334", "postDate": "02/25/2016 06:38:18", "content": "Thanks for the suggestions, Jason! I like the idea of the winner's photo on our webpage, I'll try to make that happen. FWIW, I've worked at Yelp for 5+ years and the employees I know are intelligent, caring people with fascinating lives outside of work.
", "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for the suggestions, Jason! I like the idea of the winner's photo on our webpage, I'll try to make that happen. FWIW, I've worked at Yelp for 5+ years and the employees I know are intelligent, caring people with fascinating lives outside of work.", "votes": null }, { "id": "110151", "postDate": "03/03/2016 10:29:32", "content": "Yes. \nThis is going to be expensive when it comes to required resource and dataset.\nSome cash price and a direct job offer for the right resume seems fair. \n@Jim B Looking forward to further updates.
", "rawMarkdown": "Yes. \r\nThis is going to be expensive when it comes to required resource and dataset.\r\nSome cash price and a direct job offer for the right resume seems fair. \r\n@Jim B Looking forward to further updates.", "votes": null }, { "id": "110190", "postDate": "03/03/2016 17:36:35", "content": "Is the winning solution going to be used commercially, if so, then yes a monetary prize seems adequate. However, if this is a hiring exercise, then perhaps not, even still there should be some take away for the winner (recognition or something since there is no guarantee of employment).
", "rawMarkdown": "Is the winning solution going to be used commercially, if so, then yes a monetary prize seems adequate. However, if this is a hiring exercise, then perhaps not, even still there should be some take away for the winner (recognition or something since there is no guarantee of employment).", "votes": null }, { "id": "110344", "postDate": "03/04/2016 18:58:10", "content": "John, we are not planning to use the winning solution commercially; this is mostly a hiring exercise, a chance to share an interesting/less-common type of machine learning problem (and dataset) with the Kaggle community, and for academic interest. We do plan to recognize the winners (perhaps in a blog post or interview), but haven't worked out the details yet.
", "rawMarkdown": "John, we are not planning to use the winning solution commercially; this is mostly a hiring exercise, a chance to share an interesting/less-common type of machine learning problem (and dataset) with the Kaggle community, and for academic interest. We do plan to recognize the winners (perhaps in a blog post or interview), but haven't worked out the details yet.", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 108328, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "02/16/2016 18:32:58", "content": "Typically there are a few steps before you have a conversation with an engineer: resume check, simple code and prescreen questions, and a conversation about fit with a recruiter. This means we might miss folks who are new to data mining and machine learning. This contest is a chance to let the results speak for themselves -- if you can create great algorithms, then it doesn't matter what you have on your resume, we want to talk to you.
\n\nOf course, the trade-off is that contestants have to put in the effort to demonstrate their ability, and still go through an interview process. We hope both are fun, but they are work. Releasing features at Yelp is about more than writing an algorithm alone with supplied data and one metric, so we need to test for the other abilities as well. That means we can't guarantee a job offer.
\n\nWe're using the standard rules regarding ownership of the model, let us know if you have feedback on those.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 108996, "author_name": "millerintllc", "author_url": "", "post_date": "02/22/2016 09:59:49", "content": "[quote=SpammySmith;107245]
\n\nAny information on what the "fast track through the recruiting process" prize really means? My interpretation of this is that if I win I get an interview, with no guarantee of a job offer, and Yelp has all the rights to my winning model code. Correct?
\n\n[/quote]
\n\nI think your interpretation is correct. I don't want to be a negative nancy, but basically there's no prize.
\n\nIf you have an appropriate resume and live in the right place or are willing to relocate then you can get a job at a company like Yelp without this contest.
\n\nI'm a veteran of Silicon Valley and let me say that while there's a lot of workplace "indoctrination" at "shops" like this, getting a job with Internet companies like Yelp, Facebook, Google, or any of the vast number of advertising companies or start-ups isn't very difficult. If you're willing to go to the San Francisco / San Jose bay area and make your entire life revolve around your job and your cut-throat co-workers, then they will want to keep you there for life.
\n\nIMHO they should get over themselves and offer a cash prize. Especially for a contest involving hundreds of thousands of image files, which takes more resources than the Data Science Bowl. Home Depot has a much more computationally cheap contest to participate in and they offer both jobs and cash prizes.
\n\nCome on, Yelp. Step up. Offer $40k or something creative like a photo of the winner on Yelp.com with a link to their CV for a month. That will get you 10x as many participants.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 109334, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "02/25/2016 06:38:18", "content": "Thanks for the suggestions, Jason! I like the idea of the winner's photo on our webpage, I'll try to make that happen. FWIW, I've worked at Yelp for 5+ years and the employees I know are intelligent, caring people with fascinating lives outside of work.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 110151, "author_name": "breakpoint", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/03/2016 10:29:32", "content": "Yes. \nThis is going to be expensive when it comes to required resource and dataset.\nSome cash price and a direct job offer for the right resume seems fair. \n@Jim B Looking forward to further updates.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 110190, "author_name": "faceplant", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/03/2016 17:36:35", "content": "Is the winning solution going to be used commercially, if so, then yes a monetary prize seems adequate. However, if this is a hiring exercise, then perhaps not, even still there should be some take away for the winner (recognition or something since there is no guarantee of employment).
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 110344, "author_name": "ody30357", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/04/2016 18:58:10", "content": "John, we are not planning to use the winning solution commercially; this is mostly a hiring exercise, a chance to share an interesting/less-common type of machine learning problem (and dataset) with the Kaggle community, and for academic interest. We do plan to recognize the winners (perhaps in a blog post or interview), but haven't worked out the details yet.
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