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  "id": 406810,
  "title": "Threshold for Segmentation",
  "url": "/competitions/vesuvius-challenge-ink-detection/discussion/406810",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-05-03T21:15:45.679002600Z",
  "votes": 1,
  "comment_count": 17,
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  "content": "<p>What threshold are you guys trying out for segmentation? Are you guys adjusting the threshold according to the leaderboard score or setting it to a standard value?<br>\nI'm in a dilemma about the same.</p>",
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    {
      "id": "2244736",
      "postDate": "05/03/2023 21:15:45",
      "content": "<p>What threshold are you guys trying out for segmentation? Are you guys adjusting the threshold according to the leaderboard score or setting it to a standard value?<br>\nI'm in a dilemma about the same.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "What threshold are you guys trying out for segmentation? Are you guys adjusting the threshold according to the leaderboard score or setting it to a standard value?\nI'm in a dilemma about the same.",
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      "id": "2244891",
      "postDate": "05/04/2023 01:27:36",
      "content": "<p>I submit two models with different hyperparemeters :<br>\nOne for public leaderboard climbing which is probably very bad with a threshold lower than 0.5<br>\nAnd one of 0.5 which i assume to be better for the final leaderboard<br>\nI had the same dilemma but i am overwhelmed with the numbers of parameters so i stick with the strategy to avoid overthinking!!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I submit two models with different hyperparemeters :\nOne for public leaderboard climbing which is probably very bad with a threshold lower than 0.5\nAnd one of 0.5 which i assume to be better for the final leaderboard\nI had the same dilemma but i am overwhelmed with the numbers of parameters so i stick with the strategy to avoid overthinking!!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2244942",
      "postDate": "05/04/2023 03:18:36",
      "content": "<p>How big of a gap do you see between your overfitted threshold and your .5 threshold?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "How big of a gap do you see between your overfitted threshold and your .5 threshold?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2245072",
      "postDate": "05/04/2023 06:13:43",
      "content": "<p>Yeah, I have done the same. There should be some other way to tackle this problem.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yeah, I have done the same. There should be some other way to tackle this problem.",
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    },
    {
      "id": "2245139",
      "postDate": "05/04/2023 07:08:54",
      "content": "<p>I'm just setting my threshold to 0.5. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm just setting my threshold to 0.5.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2245325",
      "postDate": "05/04/2023 09:30:01",
      "content": "<p>0.5-0.6 threshold am using…<br>\nfor how many epochs do you train?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "0.5-0.6 threshold am using...\nfor how many epochs do you train?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2245476",
      "postDate": "05/04/2023 11:59:23",
      "content": "<p>for the public model for +/- 0.1 treshold its +/- 0.08 score and +/- 0.1 between the two models something like this, in fact i prefer lie to myself thinking i have a well placement than face the reality that im totally out of topic :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "for the public model for +/- 0.1 treshold its +/- 0.08 score and +/- 0.1 between the two models something like this, in fact i prefer lie to myself thinking i have a well placement than face the reality that im totally out of topic :)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2246860",
      "postDate": "05/05/2023 14:18:26",
      "content": "<p>I train for around 15 epochs.<br>\nHow long do you train? And what post-processing are you using?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I train for around 15 epochs.\nHow long do you train? And what post-processing are you using?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2246862",
      "postDate": "05/05/2023 14:18:55",
      "content": "<p>Are you using any post-processing?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Are you using any post-processing?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2247132",
      "postDate": "05/05/2023 18:29:30",
      "content": "<p>No. But I want to explore the post-processing methods on top in the nearest future. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "No. But I want to explore the post-processing methods on top in the nearest future.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2247672",
      "postDate": "05/06/2023 07:53:39",
      "content": "<p>12 epochs but slight overfitting ….</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "12 epochs but slight overfitting ....",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2248007",
      "postDate": "05/06/2023 12:43:06",
      "content": "<p>Are you ensembling models? <br>\nAlso, which loss are you using?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Are you ensembling models? \nAlso, which loss are you using?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2248476",
      "postDate": "05/06/2023 22:04:56",
      "content": "<p>dice loss , 2  models ensembled</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "dice loss , 2  models ensembled",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2251498",
      "postDate": "05/09/2023 12:07:19",
      "content": "<p>Which losses and TTA are you using? I f you don't mind sharing</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Which losses and TTA are you using? I f you don't mind sharing",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2251500",
      "postDate": "05/09/2023 12:07:44",
      "content": "<p>Are you using any TTA or post processing?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Are you using any TTA or post processing?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2251561",
      "postDate": "05/09/2023 13:30:32",
      "content": "<p>tta: flips <br>\nloss: dice loss</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "tta: flips \nloss: dice loss",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2251891",
      "postDate": "05/09/2023 17:40:36",
      "content": "<p>Which TTA or post-processing are you using?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Which TTA or post-processing are you using?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2257601",
      "postDate": "05/13/2023 14:03:27",
      "content": "<p>just dice loss？no BCE loss？</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "just dice loss？no BCE loss？",
      "votes": null
    }
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      "id": 2244891,
      "author_name": "iraqbot",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/04/2023 01:27:36",
      "content": "<p>I submit two models with different hyperparemeters :<br>\nOne for public leaderboard climbing which is probably very bad with a threshold lower than 0.5<br>\nAnd one of 0.5 which i assume to be better for the final leaderboard<br>\nI had the same dilemma but i am overwhelmed with the numbers of parameters so i stick with the strategy to avoid overthinking!!</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2244942,
          "author_name": "petersk20",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/04/2023 03:18:36",
          "content": "<p>How big of a gap do you see between your overfitted threshold and your .5 threshold?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2245476,
              "author_name": "iraqbot",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "05/04/2023 11:59:23",
              "content": "<p>for the public model for +/- 0.1 treshold its +/- 0.08 score and +/- 0.1 between the two models something like this, in fact i prefer lie to myself thinking i have a well placement than face the reality that im totally out of topic :)</p>",
              "votes": null,
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          "id": 2245072,
          "author_name": "datadixit",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/04/2023 06:13:43",
          "content": "<p>Yeah, I have done the same. There should be some other way to tackle this problem.</p>",
          "votes": null,
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          "id": 2251891,
          "author_name": "datadixit",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/09/2023 17:40:36",
          "content": "<p>Which TTA or post-processing are you using?</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        }
      ]
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    {
      "id": 2245139,
      "author_name": "igorkrashenyi",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/04/2023 07:08:54",
      "content": "<p>I'm just setting my threshold to 0.5. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2246862,
          "author_name": "datadixit",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/05/2023 14:18:55",
          "content": "<p>Are you using any post-processing?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2247132,
              "author_name": "igorkrashenyi",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "05/05/2023 18:29:30",
              "content": "<p>No. But I want to explore the post-processing methods on top in the nearest future. </p>",
              "votes": null,
              "replies": [
                {
                  "id": 2251498,
                  "author_name": "datadixit",
                  "author_url": "",
                  "post_date": "05/09/2023 12:07:19",
                  "content": "<p>Which losses and TTA are you using? I f you don't mind sharing</p>",
                  "votes": null,
                  "replies": [
                    {
                      "id": 2251561,
                      "author_name": "igorkrashenyi",
                      "author_url": "",
                      "post_date": "05/09/2023 13:30:32",
                      "content": "<p>tta: flips <br>\nloss: dice loss</p>",
                      "votes": null,
                      "replies": []
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      "id": 2245325,
      "author_name": "arunodhayan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/04/2023 09:30:01",
      "content": "<p>0.5-0.6 threshold am using…<br>\nfor how many epochs do you train?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2246860,
          "author_name": "datadixit",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/05/2023 14:18:26",
          "content": "<p>I train for around 15 epochs.<br>\nHow long do you train? And what post-processing are you using?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2247672,
              "author_name": "arunodhayan",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "05/06/2023 07:53:39",
              "content": "<p>12 epochs but slight overfitting ….</p>",
              "votes": null,
              "replies": [
                {
                  "id": 2248007,
                  "author_name": "datadixit",
                  "author_url": "",
                  "post_date": "05/06/2023 12:43:06",
                  "content": "<p>Are you ensembling models? <br>\nAlso, which loss are you using?</p>",
                  "votes": null,
                  "replies": [
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                      "id": 2248476,
                      "author_name": "arunodhayan",
                      "author_url": "",
                      "post_date": "05/06/2023 22:04:56",
                      "content": "<p>dice loss , 2  models ensembled</p>",
                      "votes": null,
                      "replies": [
                        {
                          "id": 2251500,
                          "author_name": "datadixit",
                          "author_url": "",
                          "post_date": "05/09/2023 12:07:44",
                          "content": "<p>Are you using any TTA or post processing?</p>",
                          "votes": null,
                          "replies": []
                        },
                        {
                          "id": 2257601,
                          "author_name": "wangxuc",
                          "author_url": "",
                          "post_date": "05/13/2023 14:03:27",
                          "content": "<p>just dice loss？no BCE loss？</p>",
                          "votes": null,
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    "2244736": "What threshold are you guys trying out for segmentation? Are you guys adjusting the threshold according to the leaderboard score or setting it to a standard value?\nI'm in a dilemma about the same.",
    "2244891": "I submit two models with different hyperparemeters :\nOne for public leaderboard climbing which is probably very bad with a threshold lower than 0.5\nAnd one of 0.5 which i assume to be better for the final leaderboard\nI had the same dilemma but i am overwhelmed with the numbers of parameters so i stick with the strategy to avoid overthinking!!",
    "2244942": "How big of a gap do you see between your overfitted threshold and your .5 threshold?",
    "2245072": "Yeah, I have done the same. There should be some other way to tackle this problem.",
    "2245139": "I'm just setting my threshold to 0.5.",
    "2245325": "0.5-0.6 threshold am using...\nfor how many epochs do you train?",
    "2245476": "for the public model for +/- 0.1 treshold its +/- 0.08 score and +/- 0.1 between the two models something like this, in fact i prefer lie to myself thinking i have a well placement than face the reality that im totally out of topic :)",
    "2246860": "I train for around 15 epochs.\nHow long do you train? And what post-processing are you using?",
    "2246862": "Are you using any post-processing?",
    "2247132": "No. But I want to explore the post-processing methods on top in the nearest future.",
    "2247672": "12 epochs but slight overfitting ....",
    "2248007": "Are you ensembling models? \nAlso, which loss are you using?",
    "2248476": "dice loss , 2  models ensembled",
    "2251498": "Which losses and TTA are you using? I f you don't mind sharing",
    "2251500": "Are you using any TTA or post processing?",
    "2251561": "tta: flips \nloss: dice loss",
    "2251891": "Which TTA or post-processing are you using?",
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