{
  "id": 396402,
  "title": "Total prize pool increased to $1M",
  "url": "/competitions/vesuvius-challenge-ink-detection/discussion/396402",
  "author_name": "Will Cukierski",
  "post_date": "2023-03-21T13:40:49.666000",
  "votes": 27,
  "comment_count": 12,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Nat and the Scroll Prize team have done an amazing job sourcing further prize contributions for this effort, so per <a href=\"https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1637979801033256960\" target=\"_blank\">the latest announcement on Twitter</a>, the total combined prize pool has increased to $1M for this effort.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 2190786,
      "postDate": "2023-03-21T13:40:49.667Z",
      "content": "<p>Nat and the Scroll Prize team have done an amazing job sourcing further prize contributions for this effort, so per <a href=\"https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1637979801033256960\" target=\"_blank\">the latest announcement on Twitter</a>, the total combined prize pool has increased to $1M for this effort.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Nat and the Scroll Prize team have done an amazing job sourcing further prize contributions for this effort, so per [the latest announcement on Twitter](https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1637979801033256960), the total combined prize pool has increased to $1M for this effort.",
      "votes": 27
    },
    {
      "id": 2194583,
      "postDate": "2023-03-24T03:49:29.860Z",
      "content": "<p>God I love money</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "God I love money",
      "votes": 4
    },
    {
      "id": 2191146,
      "postDate": "2023-03-21T18:31:47.897Z",
      "content": "<p>I would like to work on it. This prize must be very difficult to get but easier than winning a lottery with similar amount.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I would like to work on it. This prize must be very difficult to get but easier than winning a lottery with similar amount.",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 2190837,
      "postDate": "2023-03-21T14:21:26.310Z",
      "content": "<p>The <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/vesuvius-challenge-ink-detection/overview/prizes\" target=\"_blank\">Prizes</a> section of this kaggle competition says;</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>For this Ink Detection progress prize on Kaggle, we're awarding $50,000 for the top 4 winners on the leaderboard:</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>It is a little confusing (not that it matter for me). Is the $1M prize money for kaggle winners? If not, it should be corrected I think. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The [Prizes](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/vesuvius-challenge-ink-detection/overview/prizes) section of this kaggle competition says;\n\n> For this Ink Detection progress prize on Kaggle, we're awarding $50,000 for the top 4 winners on the leaderboard:\n\nIt is a little confusing (not that it matter for me). Is the $1M prize money for kaggle winners? If not, it should be corrected I think. \n",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2190870,
          "postDate": "2023-03-21T14:42:58.733Z",
          "content": "<p>Yep,</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Kaggle prize is 50k</li>\n<li>700k First team to read a scroll by December 31st 2023</li>\n<li>250k TBA</li>\n</ul>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Yep,\n- Kaggle prize is 50k\n- 700k First team to read a scroll by December 31st 2023\n- 250k TBA",
          "votes": 3,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2191049,
              "postDate": "2023-03-21T16:57:37.767Z",
              "content": "<p>Exactly this, thanks for the clarification. I'll update the Kaggle pages to make this super clear!</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Exactly this, thanks for the clarification. I'll update the Kaggle pages to make this super clear!",
              "votes": 1
            },
            {
              "id": 2192023,
              "postDate": "2023-03-22T11:27:09.410Z",
              "content": "<p>I was curious, and I found this:  <a href=\"https://scrollprize.org/participate\" target=\"_blank\">https://scrollprize.org/participate</a></p>\n<p>Grand Prize Qualifying Criteria<br>\nA Review Team made up of technical experts and papyrologists will assess all Grand Prize submissions to ensure that they can:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Read at least 4 separate passages from the two scrolls, each containing at least 140 characters of continuous text</li>\n<li>Verify that each passage contains no more than 15% of characters which are missing or illegible</li>\n<li>Confirm that submissions contain legitimate and linguistically plausible text</li>\n<li>Independently reproduce and verify your results using your code and documented techniques</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Interested as to the details of \"Confirm that submissions contain legitimate and linguistically plausible text\".  </p>\n<p>The initial solutions will likely use probabilistic inference based on expected tokens (think GPT for ancient Herculaneum scrolls) guided by what can be discerned by CV - assuming the CV challenge is as hard as the prize seems to indicate.</p>\n<p>Not saying the criteria is unfair - $700K is a reasonable amount, but perhaps a less ambitious goal with a smaller prize might be a better place to start.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I was curious, and I found this:  https://scrollprize.org/participate\n\nGrand Prize Qualifying Criteria\nA Review Team made up of technical experts and papyrologists will assess all Grand Prize submissions to ensure that they can:\n\n- Read at least 4 separate passages from the two scrolls, each containing at least 140 characters of continuous text\n- Verify that each passage contains no more than 15% of characters which are missing or illegible\n- Confirm that submissions contain legitimate and linguistically plausible text\n- Independently reproduce and verify your results using your code and documented techniques\n\nInterested as to the details of \"Confirm that submissions contain legitimate and linguistically plausible text\".  \n\nThe initial solutions will likely use probabilistic inference based on expected tokens (think GPT for ancient Herculaneum scrolls) guided by what can be discerned by CV - assuming the CV challenge is as hard as the prize seems to indicate.\n\nNot saying the criteria is unfair - $700K is a reasonable amount, but perhaps a less ambitious goal with a smaller prize might be a better place to start.\n\n"
            },
            {
              "id": 2192343,
              "postDate": "2023-03-22T15:43:35.157Z",
              "content": "<p>That's why we have the progress prizes, of which the Kaggle competition is indeed the first!</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "That's why we have the progress prizes, of which the Kaggle competition is indeed the first!"
            },
            {
              "id": 2195197,
              "postDate": "2023-03-24T13:50:57.290Z",
              "content": "<p>Thanks for the clarification!</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for the clarification!"
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2194397,
      "postDate": "2023-03-23T22:39:25.367Z",
      "content": "<p>WOW that's a nice increase ! Dam I should've tried this competition haha</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "WOW that's a nice increase ! Dam I should've tried this competition haha",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2194408,
          "postDate": "2023-03-23T22:50:44.753Z",
          "content": "<p>We only just got started so come and join us!</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "We only just got started so come and join us!"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2191044,
      "postDate": "2023-03-21T16:55:03.140Z",
      "content": "<p>Wow, 1M???</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Wow, 1M???"
    },
    {
      "id": 2190797,
      "postDate": "2023-03-21T13:56:54.063Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "votes": 2,
      "isDeleted": true
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2194583,
      "author_name": "Khoi Nguyen",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-03-24T03:49:29.860000",
      "content": "<p>God I love money</p>",
      "votes": 4,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2191146,
      "author_name": "Lonnie",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-03-21T18:31:47.897000",
      "content": "<p>I would like to work on it. This prize must be very difficult to get but easier than winning a lottery with similar amount.</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2190837,
      "author_name": "A Legacy Grandmaster!",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-03-21T14:21:26.310000",
      "content": "<p>The <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/vesuvius-challenge-ink-detection/overview/prizes\" target=\"_blank\">Prizes</a> section of this kaggle competition says;</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>For this Ink Detection progress prize on Kaggle, we're awarding $50,000 for the top 4 winners on the leaderboard:</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>It is a little confusing (not that it matter for me). Is the $1M prize money for kaggle winners? If not, it should be corrected I think. </p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2190870,
          "author_name": "moth",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-03-21T14:42:58.733000",
          "content": "<p>Yep,</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Kaggle prize is 50k</li>\n<li>700k First team to read a scroll by December 31st 2023</li>\n<li>250k TBA</li>\n</ul>",
          "votes": 3,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2191049,
              "author_name": "JP Posma",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-03-21T16:57:37.767000",
              "content": "<p>Exactly this, thanks for the clarification. I'll update the Kaggle pages to make this super clear!</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2192023,
              "author_name": "@kaggleqrdl",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-03-22T11:27:09.410000",
              "content": "<p>I was curious, and I found this:  <a href=\"https://scrollprize.org/participate\" target=\"_blank\">https://scrollprize.org/participate</a></p>\n<p>Grand Prize Qualifying Criteria<br>\nA Review Team made up of technical experts and papyrologists will assess all Grand Prize submissions to ensure that they can:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>Read at least 4 separate passages from the two scrolls, each containing at least 140 characters of continuous text</li>\n<li>Verify that each passage contains no more than 15% of characters which are missing or illegible</li>\n<li>Confirm that submissions contain legitimate and linguistically plausible text</li>\n<li>Independently reproduce and verify your results using your code and documented techniques</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Interested as to the details of \"Confirm that submissions contain legitimate and linguistically plausible text\".  </p>\n<p>The initial solutions will likely use probabilistic inference based on expected tokens (think GPT for ancient Herculaneum scrolls) guided by what can be discerned by CV - assuming the CV challenge is as hard as the prize seems to indicate.</p>\n<p>Not saying the criteria is unfair - $700K is a reasonable amount, but perhaps a less ambitious goal with a smaller prize might be a better place to start.</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2192343,
              "author_name": "JP Posma",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-03-22T15:43:35.157000",
              "content": "<p>That's why we have the progress prizes, of which the Kaggle competition is indeed the first!</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2195197,
              "author_name": "denisoiddd",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-03-24T13:50:57.290000",
              "content": "<p>Thanks for the clarification!</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2194397,
      "author_name": "Sitraka_Forler",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-03-23T22:39:25.367000",
      "content": "<p>WOW that's a nice increase ! Dam I should've tried this competition haha</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2194408,
          "author_name": "JP Posma",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-03-23T22:50:44.753000",
          "content": "<p>We only just got started so come and join us!</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2191044,
      "author_name": "victorasso",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-03-21T16:55:03.140000",
      "content": "<p>Wow, 1M???</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2190797,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-03-21T13:56:54.063000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": 2,
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    "2190786": "Nat and the Scroll Prize team have done an amazing job sourcing further prize contributions for this effort, so per [the latest announcement on Twitter](https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1637979801033256960), the total combined prize pool has increased to $1M for this effort.",
    "2194583": "God I love money",
    "2191146": "I would like to work on it. This prize must be very difficult to get but easier than winning a lottery with similar amount.",
    "2190837": "The [Prizes](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/vesuvius-challenge-ink-detection/overview/prizes) section of this kaggle competition says;\n\n> For this Ink Detection progress prize on Kaggle, we're awarding $50,000 for the top 4 winners on the leaderboard:\n\nIt is a little confusing (not that it matter for me). Is the $1M prize money for kaggle winners? If not, it should be corrected I think. \n",
    "2194397": "WOW that's a nice increase ! Dam I should've tried this competition haha",
    "2191044": "Wow, 1M???",
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