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  "id": 125817,
  "title": "Notebook errors",
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  "post_date": "2020-01-13T21:00:26.229390600Z",
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  "content": "<p>Does anyone face errors with Notebooks? I did some minimal modifications to a Notebook than ran successfully but now I get \"Submission CSV not found\". Was the memory of Notebooks reduced to e.g. 4GB? It's very disappointing because I can't debug this further and can't make any further submissions ...</p>\n\n<p>On top of this issue I also spend my whole GPU quota in just a few hours. I think the counter is not working correctly. <a href=\"/philculliton\">@philculliton</a> Could you please take a look if Notebooks are working as expected?</p>\n\n<p>I also saw some similar issues:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125639\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125639</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125724\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125724</a></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F712087%2Fd23690a4fca5c256fc23fcfa9696bfa0%2Fqutoa_error.png?generation=1578949205758575&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F712087%2F0a5460e0af6df38e6f169ce6d0dfa337%2Ferror.png?generation=1578949153271232&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
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      "postDate": "01/13/2020 21:00:26",
      "content": "<p>Does anyone face errors with Notebooks? I did some minimal modifications to a Notebook than ran successfully but now I get \"Submission CSV not found\". Was the memory of Notebooks reduced to e.g. 4GB? It's very disappointing because I can't debug this further and can't make any further submissions ...</p>\n\n<p>On top of this issue I also spend my whole GPU quota in just a few hours. I think the counter is not working correctly. <a href=\"/philculliton\">@philculliton</a> Could you please take a look if Notebooks are working as expected?</p>\n\n<p>I also saw some similar issues:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125639\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125639</a></li>\n<li><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125724\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125724</a></li>\n</ul>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F712087%2Fd23690a4fca5c256fc23fcfa9696bfa0%2Fqutoa_error.png?generation=1578949205758575&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F712087%2F0a5460e0af6df38e6f169ce6d0dfa337%2Ferror.png?generation=1578949153271232&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Does anyone face errors with Notebooks? I did some minimal modifications to a Notebook than ran successfully but now I get \"Submission CSV not found\". Was the memory of Notebooks reduced to e.g. 4GB? It's very disappointing because I can't debug this further and can't make any further submissions ...\n\nOn top of this issue I also spend my whole GPU quota in just a few hours. I think the counter is not working correctly. @philculliton Could you please take a look if Notebooks are working as expected?\n\nI also saw some similar issues:\n\n* https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125639\n* https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125724\n\n\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F712087%2Fd23690a4fca5c256fc23fcfa9696bfa0%2Fqutoa_error.png?generation=1578949205758575&amp;alt=media)\n\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F712087%2F0a5460e0af6df38e6f169ce6d0dfa337%2Ferror.png?generation=1578949153271232&amp;alt=media)",
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      "postDate": "01/13/2020 22:14:29",
      "content": "<p>The \"Submission CSV Not Found\" error is thrown in the event a <code>submission.csv</code> was not outputted. This could mean that your notebook is timing out before generating a <code>submission.csv</code> file. Based on your GPU quota running out, this is the likely scenario. The fast quota burn issue is under investigation; we will update if any findings determine an issue.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The \"Submission CSV Not Found\" error is thrown in the event a `submission.csv` was not outputted. This could mean that your notebook is timing out before generating a `submission.csv` file. Based on your GPU quota running out, this is the likely scenario. The fast quota burn issue is under investigation; we will update if any findings determine an issue.",
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      "postDate": "01/13/2020 23:22:15",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for investigating!</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n  <p>This could mean that your notebook is timing out before generating a submission.csv file.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I don't think that this is the cause, unless the time limit was changed. The notebook was just shared with you.</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Version 6 (successful) takes 1176.6s</li>\n<li>Version 13 (failed) takes 1138.8s</li>\n</ul>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for investigating!\n\n&gt; This could mean that your notebook is timing out before generating a submission.csv file.\n\nI don't think that this is the cause, unless the time limit was changed. The notebook was just shared with you.\n\n* Version 6 (successful) takes 1176.6s\n* Version 13 (failed) takes 1138.8s",
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      "id": "718055",
      "postDate": "01/13/2020 23:42:54",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/seesee\">@seesee</a> Unfortunately, the error would mean that the timeout would be happening on the re-run. I know that it seems strange that the failed version has a shorter runtime on commit than a successful version, but in the larger re-run, especially if your code is not making the most efficient use of resources, then this is possible.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "seesee Unfortunately, the error would mean that the timeout would be happening on the re-run. I know that it seems strange that the failed version has a shorter runtime on commit than a successful version, but in the larger re-run, especially if your code is not making the most efficient use of resources, then this is possible.",
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      "id": "718059",
      "postDate": "01/13/2020 23:56:12",
      "content": "<p>I see, thanks. I guess I am just hitting the 10800s limit. Version 6 was just a lucky outlier and one should target &lt;1000s for the public set.</p>\n\n<p>Edit: The GPU Quota issue is still interesting. Two failed commits and some interactive sessions should not create 29hours. I'd expect 2 * 3h + 4h = 10h.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I see, thanks. I guess I am just hitting the 10800s limit. Version 6 was just a lucky outlier and one should target &lt;1000s for the public set.\n\nEdit: The GPU Quota issue is still interesting. Two failed commits and some interactive sessions should not create 29hours. I'd expect 2 * 3h + 4h = 10h.",
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      "id": "718230",
      "postDate": "01/14/2020 07:38:54",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/seesee\">@seesee</a> my notebooks run somewhere around 1080-1124 s on public test set but never failed on private test.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "seesee my notebooks run somewhere around 1080-1124 s on public test set but never failed on private test.",
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    {
      "id": "718553",
      "postDate": "01/14/2020 14:21:52",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"/seesee\">@seesee</a> - You had a few sessions that experienced some internal failures, which our code was not accounting correctly for.  This will be patched going forward.  Thanks for your report!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @seesee - You had a few sessions that experienced some internal failures, which our code was not accounting correctly for.  This will be patched going forward.  Thanks for your report!",
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    {
      "id": "718578",
      "postDate": "01/14/2020 14:52:51",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for investigating this very fast. As the competition is ending soon, I'd be happy if I could make one more submission attempt. Is it possible to re-increase my quota by ~4h?</p>\n\n<p>Edit: Thanks everyone for helping me fix these issues!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for investigating this very fast. As the competition is ending soon, I'd be happy if I could make one more submission attempt. Is it possible to re-increase my quota by ~4h?\n\nEdit: Thanks everyone for helping me fix these issues!",
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      "id": "720606",
      "postDate": "01/16/2020 15:11:36",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"/seesee\">@seesee</a> Were you able to resolve the \"Submission CSV not found\" issue?</p>\n\n<p>I'm seeing the same \"Submission CSV not found\" error today, using the same pipeline as previous version, submitted successfully 6 days ago. The two version have same commit runtime, so I don't think it's private set time out issue. For private set time out, we get \"Notebook Timeout\" errors instead.</p>\n\n<p>I'm wondering whether Kaggle has changed backend hardware during the past 6 days, as all the reported \"Submission CSV not found\" issues seem to happen within this time period.\n<a href=\"/jplotts\">@jplotts</a> Do you mind looking into this for me as well? I can share my notebook with you. Thanks!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @seesee Were you able to resolve the \"Submission CSV not found\" issue?\n\nI'm seeing the same \"Submission CSV not found\" error today, using the same pipeline as previous version, submitted successfully 6 days ago. The two version have same commit runtime, so I don't think it's private set time out issue. For private set time out, we get \"Notebook Timeout\" errors instead.\n\nI'm wondering whether Kaggle has changed backend hardware during the past 6 days, as all the reported \"Submission CSV not found\" issues seem to happen within this time period.\n@jplotts Do you mind looking into this for me as well? I can share my notebook with you. Thanks!",
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      "id": "720616",
      "postDate": "01/16/2020 15:27:12",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"/boliu0\">@boliu0</a>, yes I was able to resolve the errors.</p>\n\n<p>&gt; The two version have same commit runtime, so I don't think it's private set time out issue. For private set time out, we get \"Notebook Timeout\" errors instead.</p>\n\n<p>Your are right, I didn't know that. I actually spend quite some time making my Notebooks run faster as suggested by <a href=\"/juliaelliott\">@juliaelliott</a>. However, this was not causing the error. It was a bug in my code which caused an <code>IndexError</code> at the decoding stage. I found it by running the inference pipeline on the whole training set. I don't recall the sample that caused the error. Good luck!</p>\n\n<p>Edit: I can also confirm that the quota is increasing as expected now.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @boliu0, yes I was able to resolve the errors.\n\n&gt; The two version have same commit runtime, so I don't think it's private set time out issue. For private set time out, we get \"Notebook Timeout\" errors instead.\n\nYour are right, I didn't know that. I actually spend quite some time making my Notebooks run faster as suggested by @juliaelliott. However, this was not causing the error. It was a bug in my code which caused an `IndexError` at the decoding stage. I found it by running the inference pipeline on the whole training set. I don't recall the sample that caused the error. Good luck!\n\nEdit: I can also confirm that the quota is increasing as expected now.",
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    {
      "id": "720650",
      "postDate": "01/16/2020 16:10:08",
      "content": "<p>Thanks. So you're saying it's not due to OOM, but it's a bug which occurs only in some sample in private set and training set, but not occur in the 346 public set, that's why you don't have error during commit?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks. So you're saying it's not due to OOM, but it's a bug which occurs only in some sample in private set and training set, but not occur in the 346 public set, that's why you don't have error during commit?",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": "720820",
      "postDate": "01/16/2020 19:27:03",
      "content": "<p>Yes, I think that's what happened in my case.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yes, I think that's what happened in my case.",
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      "author_name": "juliaelliott",
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      "post_date": "01/13/2020 22:14:29",
      "content": "<p>The \"Submission CSV Not Found\" error is thrown in the event a <code>submission.csv</code> was not outputted. This could mean that your notebook is timing out before generating a <code>submission.csv</code> file. Based on your GPU quota running out, this is the likely scenario. The fast quota burn issue is under investigation; we will update if any findings determine an issue.</p>",
      "votes": null,
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          "id": 718044,
          "author_name": "seesee",
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          "post_date": "01/13/2020 23:22:15",
          "content": "<p>Thanks for investigating!</p>\n\n<blockquote>\n  <p>This could mean that your notebook is timing out before generating a submission.csv file.</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>I don't think that this is the cause, unless the time limit was changed. The notebook was just shared with you.</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>Version 6 (successful) takes 1176.6s</li>\n<li>Version 13 (failed) takes 1138.8s</li>\n</ul>",
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          "id": 718055,
          "author_name": "juliaelliott",
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          "post_date": "01/13/2020 23:42:54",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/seesee\">@seesee</a> Unfortunately, the error would mean that the timeout would be happening on the re-run. I know that it seems strange that the failed version has a shorter runtime on commit than a successful version, but in the larger re-run, especially if your code is not making the most efficient use of resources, then this is possible.</p>",
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          "author_name": "seesee",
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          "post_date": "01/13/2020 23:56:12",
          "content": "<p>I see, thanks. I guess I am just hitting the 10800s limit. Version 6 was just a lucky outlier and one should target &lt;1000s for the public set.</p>\n\n<p>Edit: The GPU Quota issue is still interesting. Two failed commits and some interactive sessions should not create 29hours. I'd expect 2 * 3h + 4h = 10h.</p>",
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          "author_name": "axel81",
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          "post_date": "01/14/2020 07:38:54",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/seesee\">@seesee</a> my notebooks run somewhere around 1080-1124 s on public test set but never failed on private test.</p>",
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      "author_name": "jplotts",
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      "post_date": "01/14/2020 14:21:52",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"/seesee\">@seesee</a> - You had a few sessions that experienced some internal failures, which our code was not accounting correctly for.  This will be patched going forward.  Thanks for your report!</p>",
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          "id": 718578,
          "author_name": "seesee",
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          "post_date": "01/14/2020 14:52:51",
          "content": "<p>Thanks for investigating this very fast. As the competition is ending soon, I'd be happy if I could make one more submission attempt. Is it possible to re-increase my quota by ~4h?</p>\n\n<p>Edit: Thanks everyone for helping me fix these issues!</p>",
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          "author_name": "boliu0",
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          "post_date": "01/16/2020 15:11:36",
          "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"/seesee\">@seesee</a> Were you able to resolve the \"Submission CSV not found\" issue?</p>\n\n<p>I'm seeing the same \"Submission CSV not found\" error today, using the same pipeline as previous version, submitted successfully 6 days ago. The two version have same commit runtime, so I don't think it's private set time out issue. For private set time out, we get \"Notebook Timeout\" errors instead.</p>\n\n<p>I'm wondering whether Kaggle has changed backend hardware during the past 6 days, as all the reported \"Submission CSV not found\" issues seem to happen within this time period.\n<a href=\"/jplotts\">@jplotts</a> Do you mind looking into this for me as well? I can share my notebook with you. Thanks!</p>",
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          "id": 720616,
          "author_name": "seesee",
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          "post_date": "01/16/2020 15:27:12",
          "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"/boliu0\">@boliu0</a>, yes I was able to resolve the errors.</p>\n\n<p>&gt; The two version have same commit runtime, so I don't think it's private set time out issue. For private set time out, we get \"Notebook Timeout\" errors instead.</p>\n\n<p>Your are right, I didn't know that. I actually spend quite some time making my Notebooks run faster as suggested by <a href=\"/juliaelliott\">@juliaelliott</a>. However, this was not causing the error. It was a bug in my code which caused an <code>IndexError</code> at the decoding stage. I found it by running the inference pipeline on the whole training set. I don't recall the sample that caused the error. Good luck!</p>\n\n<p>Edit: I can also confirm that the quota is increasing as expected now.</p>",
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          "id": 720650,
          "author_name": "boliu0",
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          "post_date": "01/16/2020 16:10:08",
          "content": "<p>Thanks. So you're saying it's not due to OOM, but it's a bug which occurs only in some sample in private set and training set, but not occur in the 346 public set, that's why you don't have error during commit?</p>",
          "votes": null,
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          "id": 720820,
          "author_name": "seesee",
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          "post_date": "01/16/2020 19:27:03",
          "content": "<p>Yes, I think that's what happened in my case.</p>",
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    "717986": "Does anyone face errors with Notebooks? I did some minimal modifications to a Notebook than ran successfully but now I get \"Submission CSV not found\". Was the memory of Notebooks reduced to e.g. 4GB? It's very disappointing because I can't debug this further and can't make any further submissions ...\n\nOn top of this issue I also spend my whole GPU quota in just a few hours. I think the counter is not working correctly. @philculliton Could you please take a look if Notebooks are working as expected?\n\nI also saw some similar issues:\n\n* https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125639\n* https://www.kaggle.com/c/bengaliai-cv19/discussion/125724\n\n\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F712087%2Fd23690a4fca5c256fc23fcfa9696bfa0%2Fqutoa_error.png?generation=1578949205758575&amp;alt=media)\n\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F712087%2F0a5460e0af6df38e6f169ce6d0dfa337%2Ferror.png?generation=1578949153271232&amp;alt=media)",
    "718017": "The \"Submission CSV Not Found\" error is thrown in the event a `submission.csv` was not outputted. This could mean that your notebook is timing out before generating a `submission.csv` file. Based on your GPU quota running out, this is the likely scenario. The fast quota burn issue is under investigation; we will update if any findings determine an issue.",
    "718044": "Thanks for investigating!\n\n&gt; This could mean that your notebook is timing out before generating a submission.csv file.\n\nI don't think that this is the cause, unless the time limit was changed. The notebook was just shared with you.\n\n* Version 6 (successful) takes 1176.6s\n* Version 13 (failed) takes 1138.8s",
    "718055": "seesee Unfortunately, the error would mean that the timeout would be happening on the re-run. I know that it seems strange that the failed version has a shorter runtime on commit than a successful version, but in the larger re-run, especially if your code is not making the most efficient use of resources, then this is possible.",
    "718059": "I see, thanks. I guess I am just hitting the 10800s limit. Version 6 was just a lucky outlier and one should target &lt;1000s for the public set.\n\nEdit: The GPU Quota issue is still interesting. Two failed commits and some interactive sessions should not create 29hours. I'd expect 2 * 3h + 4h = 10h.",
    "718230": "seesee my notebooks run somewhere around 1080-1124 s on public test set but never failed on private test.",
    "718553": "Hi @seesee - You had a few sessions that experienced some internal failures, which our code was not accounting correctly for.  This will be patched going forward.  Thanks for your report!",
    "718578": "Thanks for investigating this very fast. As the competition is ending soon, I'd be happy if I could make one more submission attempt. Is it possible to re-increase my quota by ~4h?\n\nEdit: Thanks everyone for helping me fix these issues!",
    "720606": "Hi @seesee Were you able to resolve the \"Submission CSV not found\" issue?\n\nI'm seeing the same \"Submission CSV not found\" error today, using the same pipeline as previous version, submitted successfully 6 days ago. The two version have same commit runtime, so I don't think it's private set time out issue. For private set time out, we get \"Notebook Timeout\" errors instead.\n\nI'm wondering whether Kaggle has changed backend hardware during the past 6 days, as all the reported \"Submission CSV not found\" issues seem to happen within this time period.\n@jplotts Do you mind looking into this for me as well? I can share my notebook with you. Thanks!",
    "720616": "Hi @boliu0, yes I was able to resolve the errors.\n\n&gt; The two version have same commit runtime, so I don't think it's private set time out issue. For private set time out, we get \"Notebook Timeout\" errors instead.\n\nYour are right, I didn't know that. I actually spend quite some time making my Notebooks run faster as suggested by @juliaelliott. However, this was not causing the error. It was a bug in my code which caused an `IndexError` at the decoding stage. I found it by running the inference pipeline on the whole training set. I don't recall the sample that caused the error. Good luck!\n\nEdit: I can also confirm that the quota is increasing as expected now.",
    "720650": "Thanks. So you're saying it's not due to OOM, but it's a bug which occurs only in some sample in private set and training set, but not occur in the 346 public set, that's why you don't have error during commit?",
    "720820": "Yes, I think that's what happened in my case."
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