{
  "id": 292807,
  "title": "Is This False Positive?",
  "url": "/competitions/tensorflow-great-barrier-reef/discussion/292807",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2021-12-03T13:37:54.493169100Z",
  "votes": 23,
  "comment_count": 6,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>This is oof of video_1/9088.jpg<br>\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/QKC9wf1/2021-12-03-22-13-56.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-13-56\"></p>\n<p>and this looks like a starfish to me. Is this false positive or actual starfish?<br>\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/5M1MyhT/2021-12-03-22-14-21.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-14-21\"></p>\n<p>[EDIT]<br>\ndifferent frame looks more like a starfish<br>\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/9pBn7jZ/2021-12-03-22-47-57.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-47-57\"></p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "1604540",
      "postDate": "12/03/2021 13:37:54",
      "content": "<p>This is oof of video_1/9088.jpg<br>\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/QKC9wf1/2021-12-03-22-13-56.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-13-56\"></p>\n<p>and this looks like a starfish to me. Is this false positive or actual starfish?<br>\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/5M1MyhT/2021-12-03-22-14-21.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-14-21\"></p>\n<p>[EDIT]<br>\ndifferent frame looks more like a starfish<br>\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/9pBn7jZ/2021-12-03-22-47-57.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-47-57\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This is oof of video_1/9088.jpg\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/QKC9wf1/2021-12-03-22-13-56.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-13-56\" border=\"0\" /></a>\n\nand this looks like a starfish to me. Is this false positive or actual starfish?\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/5M1MyhT/2021-12-03-22-14-21.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-14-21\" border=\"0\">\n\n[EDIT]\ndifferent frame looks more like a starfish\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/9pBn7jZ/2021-12-03-22-47-57.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-47-57\" border=\"0\"></a>",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1604543",
      "postDate": "12/03/2021 13:41:39",
      "content": "<p>As for me, it looks like a COST. But we never will be sure.<br>\nIt's likely that annotators miss some COSTS.<br>\nYour model detects COSTS much better than me as a human 😄</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "As for me, it looks like a COST. But we never will be sure.\nIt's likely that annotators miss some COSTS.\nYour model detects COSTS much better than me as a human 😄",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1604621",
      "postDate": "12/03/2021 14:58:27",
      "content": "<p>Yes, I noticed the same. In some frames you can find something that looks like starfish. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yes, I noticed the same. In some frames you can find something that looks like starfish.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1604862",
      "postDate": "12/03/2021 19:34:22",
      "content": "<p>I dunno i see COTS everywhere lately, sunflowers, hedgehogs so yeah there is a COTS :D</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I dunno i see COTS everywhere lately, sunflowers, hedgehogs so yeah there is a COTS :D",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1656871",
      "postDate": "01/19/2022 18:00:07",
      "content": "<p><img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/LRs8jcy/image.png\" alt=\"\"><br>\nthis feels to me as True Positive<br>\nlet's look very close<br>\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/wgM6wKc/image.png\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>In most cases, my models can detect COTS before the GT finds it in future frames (it detect a bit early). is there anything I can do to get rid of it</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "![](https://i.ibb.co/LRs8jcy/image.png)\nthis feels to me as True Positive\nlet's look very close\n![](https://i.ibb.co/wgM6wKc/image.png)\n\nIn most cases, my models can detect COTS before the GT finds it in future frames (it detect a bit early). is there anything I can do to get rid of it",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1657099",
      "postDate": "01/19/2022 22:48:24",
      "content": "<p>Rough idea is:</p>\n<ol>\n<li>Manually label them</li>\n<li>Automatically label them<ul>\n<li>Tracking COTS and pseudo label or discard first N frame (if discarding, we lose GT sample, and pseudo labeling may produce false GT labels)</li>\n<li>pseudo label with your detector (may also produce false GT labels)</li></ul></li>\n</ol>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Rough idea is:\n\n1. Manually label them\n2. Automatically label them\n  - Tracking COTS and pseudo label or discard first N frame (if discarding, we lose GT sample, and pseudo labeling may produce false GT labels)\n  - pseudo label with your detector (may also produce false GT labels)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1657104",
      "postDate": "01/19/2022 22:55:50",
      "content": "<p>False GT labels might not affect the score seriously in this competition, because evaluation is based on F2 (x4 weights FN than FP).</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "False GT labels might not affect the score seriously in this competition, because evaluation is based on F2 (x4 weights FN than FP).",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1604543,
      "author_name": "meowmeowmeowmeowmeow",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/03/2021 13:41:39",
      "content": "<p>As for me, it looks like a COST. But we never will be sure.<br>\nIt's likely that annotators miss some COSTS.<br>\nYour model detects COSTS much better than me as a human 😄</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1604621,
      "author_name": "remekkinas",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/03/2021 14:58:27",
      "content": "<p>Yes, I noticed the same. In some frames you can find something that looks like starfish. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1604862,
      "author_name": "lukaszborecki",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/03/2021 19:34:22",
      "content": "<p>I dunno i see COTS everywhere lately, sunflowers, hedgehogs so yeah there is a COTS :D</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1656871,
      "author_name": "morizin",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/19/2022 18:00:07",
      "content": "<p><img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/LRs8jcy/image.png\" alt=\"\"><br>\nthis feels to me as True Positive<br>\nlet's look very close<br>\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/wgM6wKc/image.png\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>In most cases, my models can detect COTS before the GT finds it in future frames (it detect a bit early). is there anything I can do to get rid of it</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1657099,
          "author_name": "tatamikenn",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "01/19/2022 22:48:24",
          "content": "<p>Rough idea is:</p>\n<ol>\n<li>Manually label them</li>\n<li>Automatically label them<ul>\n<li>Tracking COTS and pseudo label or discard first N frame (if discarding, we lose GT sample, and pseudo labeling may produce false GT labels)</li>\n<li>pseudo label with your detector (may also produce false GT labels)</li></ul></li>\n</ol>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1657104,
          "author_name": "tatamikenn",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "01/19/2022 22:55:50",
          "content": "<p>False GT labels might not affect the score seriously in this competition, because evaluation is based on F2 (x4 weights FN than FP).</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "1604540": "This is oof of video_1/9088.jpg\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/QKC9wf1/2021-12-03-22-13-56.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-13-56\" border=\"0\" /></a>\n\nand this looks like a starfish to me. Is this false positive or actual starfish?\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/5M1MyhT/2021-12-03-22-14-21.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-14-21\" border=\"0\">\n\n[EDIT]\ndifferent frame looks more like a starfish\n<img src=\"https://i.ibb.co/9pBn7jZ/2021-12-03-22-47-57.png\" alt=\"2021-12-03-22-47-57\" border=\"0\"></a>",
    "1604543": "As for me, it looks like a COST. But we never will be sure.\nIt's likely that annotators miss some COSTS.\nYour model detects COSTS much better than me as a human 😄",
    "1604621": "Yes, I noticed the same. In some frames you can find something that looks like starfish.",
    "1604862": "I dunno i see COTS everywhere lately, sunflowers, hedgehogs so yeah there is a COTS :D",
    "1656871": "![](https://i.ibb.co/LRs8jcy/image.png)\nthis feels to me as True Positive\nlet's look very close\n![](https://i.ibb.co/wgM6wKc/image.png)\n\nIn most cases, my models can detect COTS before the GT finds it in future frames (it detect a bit early). is there anything I can do to get rid of it",
    "1657099": "Rough idea is:\n\n1. Manually label them\n2. Automatically label them\n  - Tracking COTS and pseudo label or discard first N frame (if discarding, we lose GT sample, and pseudo labeling may produce false GT labels)\n  - pseudo label with your detector (may also produce false GT labels)",
    "1657104": "False GT labels might not affect the score seriously in this competition, because evaluation is based on F2 (x4 weights FN than FP)."
  },
  "source": "meta"
}