{
  "id": 55563,
  "title": "How to private share but comply with rules",
  "url": "/competitions/talkingdata-adtracking-fraud-detection/discussion/55563",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2018-04-28T17:19:01.363437200Z",
  "votes": 15,
  "comment_count": 7,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I just realized I dropped a couple dozen more places, looking at the usual overfit script I realized that the 0.9797 now appears as [Deleted Kernel]. <strong>This is OK, I(we) should not rely on other people work.</strong></p>\n\n<p>However, in the spirit of teaming up with some friends... without teaming up... we can easily: <br>\n1) Create scripts <br>\n2) Give the link (the script is <strong>public</strong>) <br>\n3) They copy the code and download the csv <br>\n4) Delete the script  </p>\n\n<p>While my co-workers <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tunguz\">Bojan</a> and <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/beedata\">Feng</a> know I won't help them even if they sit next to me, other people could be a bit more enthusiastic than me.</p>\n\n<p>Just think about it Kaggle ;)</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "320439",
      "postDate": "04/28/2018 17:19:01",
      "content": "<p>I just realized I dropped a couple dozen more places, looking at the usual overfit script I realized that the 0.9797 now appears as [Deleted Kernel]. <strong>This is OK, I(we) should not rely on other people work.</strong></p>\n\n<p>However, in the spirit of teaming up with some friends... without teaming up... we can easily: <br>\n1) Create scripts <br>\n2) Give the link (the script is <strong>public</strong>) <br>\n3) They copy the code and download the csv <br>\n4) Delete the script  </p>\n\n<p>While my co-workers <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tunguz\">Bojan</a> and <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/beedata\">Feng</a> know I won't help them even if they sit next to me, other people could be a bit more enthusiastic than me.</p>\n\n<p>Just think about it Kaggle ;)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I just realized I dropped a couple dozen more places, looking at the usual overfit script I realized that the 0.9797 now appears as [Deleted Kernel]. **This is OK, I(we) should not rely on other people work.**\n\nHowever, in the spirit of teaming up with some friends... without teaming up... we can easily:  \n1) Create scripts  \n2) Give the link (the script is **public**)  \n3) They copy the code and download the csv  \n4) Delete the script  \n\nWhile my co-workers [Bojan][1] and [Feng][2] know I won't help them even if they sit next to me, other people could be a bit more enthusiastic than me.\n\nJust think about it Kaggle ;)\n\n\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/tunguz\n  [2]: https://www.kaggle.com/beedata",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "320440",
      "postDate": "04/28/2018 17:25:34",
      "content": "<p>I remember an interview with a veteran counterterrorist unit dude - he said one of their first tasks was figuring out six ways of smuggling a bomb into a heavily guarded embassy building. There is a degree of mental kinship with your line of thinking :-) </p>\n\n<p>Kudos - such manner of bypassing the rules never occurred to me.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I remember an interview with a veteran counterterrorist unit dude - he said one of their first tasks was figuring out six ways of smuggling a bomb into a heavily guarded embassy building. There is a degree of mental kinship with your line of thinking :-) \n\nKudos - such manner of bypassing the rules never occurred to me.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "320445",
      "postDate": "04/28/2018 17:47:22",
      "content": "<p>One of the most difficult tasks for an aspiring counterterrorist unit dude is to figure out the best approaches and keep them for himself and still get the position (by giving the other, most commonly imaginable ways, for an answer to the test). This is a degree of mental discipline actually needed in that trade.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "One of the most difficult tasks for an aspiring counterterrorist unit dude is to figure out the best approaches and keep them for himself and still get the position (by giving the other, most commonly imaginable ways, for an answer to the test). This is a degree of mental discipline actually needed in that trade.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "320455",
      "postDate": "04/28/2018 18:18:17",
      "content": "<p>Well, he did not mention his answers in that interview...</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Well, he did not mention his answers in that interview...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "320552",
      "postDate": "04/29/2018 02:55:08",
      "content": "<p>The same can be said for the best whitehats (they're a razor blade away from being hackers), as well as the best cops, etc.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The same can be said for the best whitehats (they're a razor blade away from being hackers), as well as the best cops, etc.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "320616",
      "postDate": "04/29/2018 09:22:43",
      "content": "<p>Very valid point indeed. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Very valid point indeed.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "320797",
      "postDate": "04/29/2018 22:00:15",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>While my co-workers Bojan and Feng know I won't help them even if they sit next to me</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>That's true. I've repeatedly offered him the last remaining chocolate chip cookie in the office for just one glimpse of his high-level Kaggle code. No go. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "&gt;  While my co-workers Bojan and Feng know I won't help them even if they sit next to me\n\nThat's true. I've repeatedly offered him the last remaining chocolate chip cookie in the office for just one glimpse of his high-level Kaggle code. No go.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "320808",
      "postDate": "04/29/2018 22:57:29",
      "content": "<p>That's easy - <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_%28missile%29\">Tomahawk</a>. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "That's easy - [Tomahawk][1]. \n\n\n  [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 320440,
      "author_name": "konradb",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/28/2018 17:25:34",
      "content": "<p>I remember an interview with a veteran counterterrorist unit dude - he said one of their first tasks was figuring out six ways of smuggling a bomb into a heavily guarded embassy building. There is a degree of mental kinship with your line of thinking :-) </p>\n\n<p>Kudos - such manner of bypassing the rules never occurred to me.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 320445,
          "author_name": "gpreda",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/28/2018 17:47:22",
          "content": "<p>One of the most difficult tasks for an aspiring counterterrorist unit dude is to figure out the best approaches and keep them for himself and still get the position (by giving the other, most commonly imaginable ways, for an answer to the test). This is a degree of mental discipline actually needed in that trade.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 320455,
          "author_name": "konradb",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/28/2018 18:18:17",
          "content": "<p>Well, he did not mention his answers in that interview...</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 320552,
          "author_name": "authman",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/29/2018 02:55:08",
          "content": "<p>The same can be said for the best whitehats (they're a razor blade away from being hackers), as well as the best cops, etc.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 320808,
          "author_name": "tunguz",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/29/2018 22:57:29",
          "content": "<p>That's easy - <a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_%28missile%29\">Tomahawk</a>. </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 320616,
      "author_name": "nuhsikander",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/29/2018 09:22:43",
      "content": "<p>Very valid point indeed. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 320797,
      "author_name": "tunguz",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/29/2018 22:00:15",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>While my co-workers Bojan and Feng know I won't help them even if they sit next to me</p>\n</blockquote>\n\n<p>That's true. I've repeatedly offered him the last remaining chocolate chip cookie in the office for just one glimpse of his high-level Kaggle code. No go. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "320439": "I just realized I dropped a couple dozen more places, looking at the usual overfit script I realized that the 0.9797 now appears as [Deleted Kernel]. **This is OK, I(we) should not rely on other people work.**\n\nHowever, in the spirit of teaming up with some friends... without teaming up... we can easily:  \n1) Create scripts  \n2) Give the link (the script is **public**)  \n3) They copy the code and download the csv  \n4) Delete the script  \n\nWhile my co-workers [Bojan][1] and [Feng][2] know I won't help them even if they sit next to me, other people could be a bit more enthusiastic than me.\n\nJust think about it Kaggle ;)\n\n\n  [1]: https://www.kaggle.com/tunguz\n  [2]: https://www.kaggle.com/beedata",
    "320440": "I remember an interview with a veteran counterterrorist unit dude - he said one of their first tasks was figuring out six ways of smuggling a bomb into a heavily guarded embassy building. There is a degree of mental kinship with your line of thinking :-) \n\nKudos - such manner of bypassing the rules never occurred to me.",
    "320445": "One of the most difficult tasks for an aspiring counterterrorist unit dude is to figure out the best approaches and keep them for himself and still get the position (by giving the other, most commonly imaginable ways, for an answer to the test). This is a degree of mental discipline actually needed in that trade.",
    "320455": "Well, he did not mention his answers in that interview...",
    "320552": "The same can be said for the best whitehats (they're a razor blade away from being hackers), as well as the best cops, etc.",
    "320616": "Very valid point indeed.",
    "320797": "&gt;  While my co-workers Bojan and Feng know I won't help them even if they sit next to me\n\nThat's true. I've repeatedly offered him the last remaining chocolate chip cookie in the office for just one glimpse of his high-level Kaggle code. No go.",
    "320808": "That's easy - [Tomahawk][1]. \n\n\n  [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)"
  },
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}