{
  "id": 175854,
  "title": "Will A Team Submission and Team be Removed if a member profile has been deleted ",
  "url": "/competitions/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175854",
  "author_name": "Gokagglers ",
  "post_date": "2020-08-19T16:04:56.503000",
  "votes": -8,
  "comment_count": 19,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I want a clarification, as one of our members has removed his profile , do we our team will be removed too! How to file for Appeal, Can any Kaggle Staff guide us , because we got a medal in this melonama challenge! Thank You</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 977692,
      "postDate": "2020-08-19T16:41:34.660Z",
      "content": "<p>The reason why he deleted his account is most likely because he knew he did something that violated the rules. In this case, if kaggle found solid evidences the whole team will be removed.</p>\n<p>I'm sorry for that.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The reason why he deleted his account is most likely because he knew he did something that violated the rules. In this case, if kaggle found solid evidences the whole team will be removed.\n\nI'm sorry for that.",
      "votes": 8,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 977696,
          "postDate": "2020-08-19T16:46:21.397Z",
          "content": "<p>In case if they happen to be new for Kaggle competition and did minor mistake without proper understanding of rules, can we appeal ! Hope julia as a competition host shall help us , how to fix this issue. Thank you</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "In case if they happen to be new for Kaggle competition and did minor mistake without proper understanding of rules, can we appeal ! Hope julia as a competition host shall help us , how to fix this issue. Thank you",
          "votes": -3
        },
        {
          "id": 977841,
          "postDate": "2020-08-19T18:34:58.650Z",
          "content": "<p>what was your rank ?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "what was your rank ?"
        },
        {
          "id": 977849,
          "postDate": "2020-08-19T18:43:04.337Z",
          "content": "<p>305 is our private LB </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "305 is our private LB "
        },
        {
          "id": 978169,
          "postDate": "2020-08-20T02:14:24.747Z",
          "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>did minor mistake without proper understanding of rules.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a> Following the rules is very important in kaggle and there is no excuse given to it. Even if you make an appeal they will say you should have read the competition rules properly. Good luck in future competitions.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "> did minor mistake without proper understanding of rules.\n\n@loveall Following the rules is very important in kaggle and there is no excuse given to it. Even if you make an appeal they will say you should have read the competition rules properly. Good luck in future competitions."
        },
        {
          "id": 978185,
          "postDate": "2020-08-20T02:41:18.627Z",
          "content": "<p>Hey it is one of the members , but he is no more active at kaggle, it is okay! It is very difficult to find right people for Team! We can only ensure we are good ! I never bother kaggle medals! Learning only matters! Like this we have missed a handful of medals! But the sadest part is even kaggle was not able to host competitions properly! Personalized Gene Mutuations Challenge for example, here sample submission scored top! We did our best and still cannot share it due to such rigid rules</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Hey it is one of the members , but he is no more active at kaggle, it is okay! It is very difficult to find right people for Team! We can only ensure we are good ! I never bother kaggle medals! Learning only matters! Like this we have missed a handful of medals! But the sadest part is even kaggle was not able to host competitions properly! Personalized Gene Mutuations Challenge for example, here sample submission scored top! We did our best and still cannot share it due to such rigid rules",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 978207,
          "postDate": "2020-08-20T03:02:16.713Z",
          "content": "<p>I am not blaming you sir It will be the response you will get from kaggle. I know the pain, Even I lost my Silver medal in M5-Accuracy competition due to sharing notebook privately (Even I was confused with the rules, At end of the competition kaggle usually display do not publish high scoring kernels and hence why I shared privately) but it is clearly mentioned as a violation and I didn't read it properly so It is my fault. I too did an appeal explaining my situation and as I mentioned above the response I got from kaggle is \"You should have read the rules properly and should choose teammates properly\" and that's totally right!.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I am not blaming you sir It will be the response you will get from kaggle. I know the pain, Even I lost my Silver medal in M5-Accuracy competition due to sharing notebook privately (Even I was confused with the rules, At end of the competition kaggle usually display do not publish high scoring kernels and hence why I shared privately) but it is clearly mentioned as a violation and I didn't read it properly so It is my fault. I too did an appeal explaining my situation and as I mentioned above the response I got from kaggle is \"You should have read the rules properly and should choose teammates properly\" and that's totally right!.",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 978211,
          "postDate": "2020-08-20T03:06:37.220Z",
          "rawMarkdown": "",
          "votes": -1,
          "isDeleted": true
        },
        {
          "id": 979398,
          "postDate": "2020-08-20T19:56:25.073Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a>, I suggest you let this go and move on. The deleted member of your team Mrinal a.k.a. <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mrinaal007\" target=\"_blank\">@mrinaal007</a> is not new on Kaggle because he has been active in discussion posts as far back as 10 months ago. That is nearly a year of participating in various competitions on Kaggle long enough to find time to read and know a lot about the rules. His posts are on various competition's discussions section and Kaggle algorithm is good at catching fraudulent users hence the kaggle team deleted his account.</p>\n<p>Next time be careful when teaming with people. Even GM's have lost gold medal because a team member had multiple accounts. Check the post <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/jigsaw-toxic-comment-classification-challenge/discussion/52526\" target=\"_blank\">Congrats (from ghost 11th team)</a>.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@loveall, I suggest you let this go and move on. The deleted member of your team Mrinal a.k.a. @mrinaal007 is not new on Kaggle because he has been active in discussion posts as far back as 10 months ago. That is nearly a year of participating in various competitions on Kaggle long enough to find time to read and know a lot about the rules. His posts are on various competition's discussions section and Kaggle algorithm is good at catching fraudulent users hence the kaggle team deleted his account.\n\nNext time be careful when teaming with people. Even GM's have lost gold medal because a team member had multiple accounts. Check the post [Congrats (from ghost 11th team)](https://www.kaggle.com/c/jigsaw-toxic-comment-classification-challenge/discussion/52526).",
          "votes": 2
        },
        {
          "id": 979669,
          "postDate": "2020-08-21T03:40:41.737Z",
          "content": "<p>Okay Hussaini. Thank You! Will Be  Carefull while selecting Team in the Future</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Okay Hussaini. Thank You! Will Be  Carefull while selecting Team in the Future"
        },
        {
          "id": 979901,
          "postDate": "2020-08-21T07:35:27.877Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a> , you are welcome. It is a shame you had to experience this issue. I was a newbie on Kaggle when I paticipated in the competition from the link above. I really felt bad for the team members of the 11th place and that post made me reluctant about teaming up with people. Whenever I do, I ask a lot of questions.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@loveall , you are welcome. It is a shame you had to experience this issue. I was a newbie on Kaggle when I paticipated in the competition from the link above. I really felt bad for the team members of the 11th place and that post made me reluctant about teaming up with people. Whenever I do, I ask a lot of questions."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 978131,
      "postDate": "2020-08-20T01:14:37.817Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a> Unfortunately, you look to have teamed with at least one individual who made the unwise decision to hold multiple accounts in this competition. As in all cases where a team member has committed an offense, we must remove the entire team. I recommend more thorough vetting of prospective teammates, and best of luck in future competitions!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@loveall Unfortunately, you look to have teamed with at least one individual who made the unwise decision to hold multiple accounts in this competition. As in all cases where a team member has committed an offense, we must remove the entire team. I recommend more thorough vetting of prospective teammates, and best of luck in future competitions!",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 978167,
          "postDate": "2020-08-20T02:12:09.803Z",
          "content": "<p>I understand, but can we appeal as he has deleted his profile and may be that he might not have understood the rules of the competition! Because other team members have worked day and night and my humble opinion is you shall remove the one who did mistake! Is it fair to remove the other members! Please suggest some solutions to appeal!</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I understand, but can we appeal as he has deleted his profile and may be that he might not have understood the rules of the competition! Because other team members have worked day and night and my humble opinion is you shall remove the one who did mistake! Is it fair to remove the other members! Please suggest some solutions to appeal!",
          "votes": -3
        },
        {
          "id": 978170,
          "postDate": "2020-08-20T02:15:20.987Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/juliaelliott\" target=\"_blank\">@juliaelliott</a> can you please confirm how much time it will take for final lb to come up ? <br>\nAnd thanks for removing suspicious users.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@juliaelliott can you please confirm how much time it will take for final lb to come up ? \nAnd thanks for removing suspicious users.\n",
          "votes": 3
        },
        {
          "id": 978178,
          "postDate": "2020-08-20T02:26:26.907Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/compliance\" target=\"_blank\">Here</a> you can make an appeal for removal from the competition. Please read the instructions carefully as the wrong appeal may lead to further punitive actions.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@loveall [Here](https://www.kaggle.com/compliance) you can make an appeal for removal from the competition. Please read the instructions carefully as the wrong appeal may lead to further punitive actions."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 977826,
      "postDate": "2020-08-19T18:17:13.347Z",
      "content": "<p>This will only happen if the person is suspected of cheating. I think that it won't be difficult for the organizers to view his history of submits and the entire profile before he deleted it since the information should be stored for some time. The fact is that many people are looking for a team in \"Looking for team Megathread\", people from there may be unreliable and for example delete their accounts, but this doesn't mean that his team will also be immediately deleted.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This will only happen if the person is suspected of cheating. I think that it won't be difficult for the organizers to view his history of submits and the entire profile before he deleted it since the information should be stored for some time. The fact is that many people are looking for a team in \"Looking for team Megathread\", people from there may be unreliable and for example delete their accounts, but this doesn't mean that his team will also be immediately deleted.",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 977647,
      "postDate": "2020-08-19T16:04:56.503Z",
      "content": "<p>I want a clarification, as one of our members has removed his profile , do we our team will be removed too! How to file for Appeal, Can any Kaggle Staff guide us , because we got a medal in this melonama challenge! Thank You</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I want a clarification, as one of our members has removed his profile , do we our team will be removed too! How to file for Appeal, Can any Kaggle Staff guide us , because we got a medal in this melonama challenge! Thank You",
      "votes": -8
    },
    {
      "id": 979756,
      "postDate": "2020-08-21T05:26:01.503Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "isDeleted": true,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 979762,
          "postDate": "2020-08-21T05:28:32.870Z",
          "content": "<p>Thanks daniboy for your Nice Words and Support! Cheers</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thanks daniboy for your Nice Words and Support! Cheers",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 977687,
      "postDate": "2020-08-19T16:38:43.957Z",
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    {
      "id": 977692,
      "author_name": "Qishen Ha",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-19T16:41:34.660000",
      "content": "<p>The reason why he deleted his account is most likely because he knew he did something that violated the rules. In this case, if kaggle found solid evidences the whole team will be removed.</p>\n<p>I'm sorry for that.</p>",
      "votes": 8,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 977696,
          "author_name": "Gokagglers ",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-19T16:46:21.397000",
          "content": "<p>In case if they happen to be new for Kaggle competition and did minor mistake without proper understanding of rules, can we appeal ! Hope julia as a competition host shall help us , how to fix this issue. Thank you</p>",
          "votes": -3,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 977841,
          "author_name": "Prateek Mishra",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-19T18:34:58.650000",
          "content": "<p>what was your rank ?</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
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        {
          "id": 977849,
          "author_name": "Gokagglers ",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-19T18:43:04.337000",
          "content": "<p>305 is our private LB </p>",
          "votes": 0,
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        {
          "id": 978169,
          "author_name": "Aakash V",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-20T02:14:24.747000",
          "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>did minor mistake without proper understanding of rules.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a> Following the rules is very important in kaggle and there is no excuse given to it. Even if you make an appeal they will say you should have read the competition rules properly. Good luck in future competitions.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 978185,
          "author_name": "Gokagglers ",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-20T02:41:18.627000",
          "content": "<p>Hey it is one of the members , but he is no more active at kaggle, it is okay! It is very difficult to find right people for Team! We can only ensure we are good ! I never bother kaggle medals! Learning only matters! Like this we have missed a handful of medals! But the sadest part is even kaggle was not able to host competitions properly! Personalized Gene Mutuations Challenge for example, here sample submission scored top! We did our best and still cannot share it due to such rigid rules</p>",
          "votes": 1,
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          "id": 978207,
          "author_name": "Aakash V",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-20T03:02:16.713000",
          "content": "<p>I am not blaming you sir It will be the response you will get from kaggle. I know the pain, Even I lost my Silver medal in M5-Accuracy competition due to sharing notebook privately (Even I was confused with the rules, At end of the competition kaggle usually display do not publish high scoring kernels and hence why I shared privately) but it is clearly mentioned as a violation and I didn't read it properly so It is my fault. I too did an appeal explaining my situation and as I mentioned above the response I got from kaggle is \"You should have read the rules properly and should choose teammates properly\" and that's totally right!.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
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          "id": 978211,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-20T03:06:37.220000",
          "content": "",
          "votes": -1,
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          "id": 979398,
          "author_name": "YaGana Sheriff-Hussaini",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-20T19:56:25.073000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a>, I suggest you let this go and move on. The deleted member of your team Mrinal a.k.a. <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mrinaal007\" target=\"_blank\">@mrinaal007</a> is not new on Kaggle because he has been active in discussion posts as far back as 10 months ago. That is nearly a year of participating in various competitions on Kaggle long enough to find time to read and know a lot about the rules. His posts are on various competition's discussions section and Kaggle algorithm is good at catching fraudulent users hence the kaggle team deleted his account.</p>\n<p>Next time be careful when teaming with people. Even GM's have lost gold medal because a team member had multiple accounts. Check the post <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/jigsaw-toxic-comment-classification-challenge/discussion/52526\" target=\"_blank\">Congrats (from ghost 11th team)</a>.</p>",
          "votes": 2,
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        },
        {
          "id": 979669,
          "author_name": "Gokagglers ",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-21T03:40:41.737000",
          "content": "<p>Okay Hussaini. Thank You! Will Be  Carefull while selecting Team in the Future</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 979901,
          "author_name": "YaGana Sheriff-Hussaini",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-21T07:35:27.877000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a> , you are welcome. It is a shame you had to experience this issue. I was a newbie on Kaggle when I paticipated in the competition from the link above. I really felt bad for the team members of the 11th place and that post made me reluctant about teaming up with people. Whenever I do, I ask a lot of questions.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 978131,
      "author_name": "Julia Elliott",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-20T01:14:37.817000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a> Unfortunately, you look to have teamed with at least one individual who made the unwise decision to hold multiple accounts in this competition. As in all cases where a team member has committed an offense, we must remove the entire team. I recommend more thorough vetting of prospective teammates, and best of luck in future competitions!</p>",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 978167,
          "author_name": "Gokagglers ",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-20T02:12:09.803000",
          "content": "<p>I understand, but can we appeal as he has deleted his profile and may be that he might not have understood the rules of the competition! Because other team members have worked day and night and my humble opinion is you shall remove the one who did mistake! Is it fair to remove the other members! Please suggest some solutions to appeal!</p>",
          "votes": -3,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 978170,
          "author_name": "Prateek Mishra",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-20T02:15:20.987000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/juliaelliott\" target=\"_blank\">@juliaelliott</a> can you please confirm how much time it will take for final lb to come up ? <br>\nAnd thanks for removing suspicious users.</p>",
          "votes": 3,
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        {
          "id": 978178,
          "author_name": "Aakash V",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-20T02:26:26.907000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/loveall\" target=\"_blank\">@loveall</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/compliance\" target=\"_blank\">Here</a> you can make an appeal for removal from the competition. Please read the instructions carefully as the wrong appeal may lead to further punitive actions.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
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      "id": 977826,
      "author_name": "Vadim Timakin",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-19T18:17:13.347000",
      "content": "<p>This will only happen if the person is suspected of cheating. I think that it won't be difficult for the organizers to view his history of submits and the entire profile before he deleted it since the information should be stored for some time. The fact is that many people are looking for a team in \"Looking for team Megathread\", people from there may be unreliable and for example delete their accounts, but this doesn't mean that his team will also be immediately deleted.</p>",
      "votes": 2,
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      "id": 979756,
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      "post_date": "2020-08-21T05:26:01.503000",
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          "id": 979762,
          "author_name": "Gokagglers ",
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          "post_date": "2020-08-21T05:28:32.870000",
          "content": "<p>Thanks daniboy for your Nice Words and Support! Cheers</p>",
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      "post_date": "2020-08-19T16:38:43.957000",
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    "977692": "The reason why he deleted his account is most likely because he knew he did something that violated the rules. In this case, if kaggle found solid evidences the whole team will be removed.\n\nI'm sorry for that.",
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    "977647": "I want a clarification, as one of our members has removed his profile , do we our team will be removed too! How to file for Appeal, Can any Kaggle Staff guide us , because we got a medal in this melonama challenge! Thank You",
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