{
  "id": 175252,
  "title": "What just happened?",
  "url": "/competitions/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175252",
  "author_name": "Jared Savage",
  "post_date": "2020-08-17T16:30:31.012000",
  "votes": 15,
  "comment_count": 13,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Checked the LB, found I'd dropped about 50-60 places in a few hours and the LB looks like this:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F2309090%2F9c04423644e0fc119484796b13621c46%2Flb.png?generation=1597681596966435&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>Most of the novice accounts in the top ranks have no previous posts, info, comps, etc. <br>\nThis is the first competition that I have taken really seriously. Is this kind of thing normal at the end or is something fishy going on?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 973970,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T16:30:31.013Z",
      "content": "<p>Checked the LB, found I'd dropped about 50-60 places in a few hours and the LB looks like this:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F2309090%2F9c04423644e0fc119484796b13621c46%2Flb.png?generation=1597681596966435&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p>Most of the novice accounts in the top ranks have no previous posts, info, comps, etc. <br>\nThis is the first competition that I have taken really seriously. Is this kind of thing normal at the end or is something fishy going on?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Checked the LB, found I'd dropped about 50-60 places in a few hours and the LB looks like this:\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F2309090%2F9c04423644e0fc119484796b13621c46%2Flb.png?generation=1597681596966435&alt=media)\n\nMost of the novice accounts in the top ranks have no previous posts, info, comps, etc. \nThis is the first competition that I have taken really seriously. Is this kind of thing normal at the end or is something fishy going on?",
      "votes": 15
    },
    {
      "id": 973988,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T16:44:30.407Z",
      "content": "<p>you can find all about it in this discussion, Kaggle need to do something about it  <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175156\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175156</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "you can find all about it in this discussion, Kaggle need to do something about it  https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175156",
      "votes": 6
    },
    {
      "id": 974043,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T17:33:32.813Z",
      "content": "<p>Yep. I joined my team at the merger deadline a week ago, we had a score of 0.9664 and were #36. Now we are #140 with 0.9670. Something is wrong, I think it is the Chinese medal sellers. I don't expect them to do too well on private LB, so I'm hoping these scores will be rectified. Best of luck to you today, may the shakedown be kind to us!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yep. I joined my team at the merger deadline a week ago, we had a score of 0.9664 and were #36. Now we are #140 with 0.9670. Something is wrong, I think it is the Chinese medal sellers. I don't expect them to do too well on private LB, so I'm hoping these scores will be rectified. Best of luck to you today, may the shakedown be kind to us!",
      "votes": 4,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 974121,
          "postDate": "2020-08-17T18:20:20.733Z",
          "rawMarkdown": "",
          "isDeleted": true
        },
        {
          "id": 974342,
          "postDate": "2020-08-17T23:04:50.843Z",
          "content": "<p>Chinese medal sellers?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Chinese medal sellers?"
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 974028,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T17:14:53.633Z",
      "content": "<p>I am sure, this won't happen in private LB, trust your instincts (pick 3 selections wisely) and hope for best.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I am sure, this won't happen in private LB, trust your instincts (pick 3 selections wisely) and hope for best.",
      "votes": 3
    },
    {
      "id": 974259,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T20:47:42.123Z",
      "content": "<p>As it has been shared, this isn't normal and it is just plain cheating. Don't worry though if you have properly validated your model, you will survive!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "As it has been shared, this isn't normal and it is just plain cheating. Don't worry though if you have properly validated your model, you will survive!",
      "votes": 3
    },
    {
      "id": 973987,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T16:44:10.090Z",
      "content": "<p>Look at position 6,7,8 all of them submitted 9h ago, on top of that they have very similar scores. Intresting.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Look at position 6,7,8 all of them submitted 9h ago, on top of that they have very similar scores. Intresting.",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 973979,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T16:37:54.333Z",
      "content": "<p>I think I have some idea. I saw some guy's post this morning (it's night right now) and he was complaining how an other guy made some notebook and is giving away like top-solution file on SIIM-ISIC Challenge. And so many people just got that file and are submitting like crazy.<br>\nI don't know how verified that accusation was, but I think this may be the reason.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think I have some idea. I saw some guy's post this morning (it's night right now) and he was complaining how an other guy made some notebook and is giving away like top-solution file on SIIM-ISIC Challenge. And so many people just got that file and are submitting like crazy.\nI don't know how verified that accusation was, but I think this may be the reason.\n",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 974093,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T18:08:40.213Z",
      "content": "<p>In shake-up we trust. In the private dataset we trust. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "In shake-up we trust. In the private dataset we trust. ",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 974077,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T17:55:54.767Z",
      "content": "<p>Yeah, it's being discussed <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/174635#973667\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/174635#973667</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yeah, it's being discussed https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/174635#973667",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 974035,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T17:18:38.213Z",
      "content": "<p>looks like an expanding greedy virus..</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "looks like an expanding greedy virus..",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 974230,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T20:11:55.130Z",
      "content": "<p>It seems to be simple cheating and medals hunting 🙄</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It seems to be simple cheating and medals hunting 🙄",
      "votes": -1
    },
    {
      "id": 974118,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T18:17:19.440Z",
      "content": "<p>i think they just copy the high scoring public kernels to climb leaderboard and get medals . this is not good . </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "i think they just copy the high scoring public kernels to climb leaderboard and get medals . this is not good . "
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 973988,
      "author_name": "Ouassim Adnane",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T16:44:30.407000",
      "content": "<p>you can find all about it in this discussion, Kaggle need to do something about it  <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175156\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175156</a></p>",
      "votes": 6,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 974043,
      "author_name": "Stanley Zheng",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T17:33:32.813000",
      "content": "<p>Yep. I joined my team at the merger deadline a week ago, we had a score of 0.9664 and were #36. Now we are #140 with 0.9670. Something is wrong, I think it is the Chinese medal sellers. I don't expect them to do too well on private LB, so I'm hoping these scores will be rectified. Best of luck to you today, may the shakedown be kind to us!</p>",
      "votes": 4,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 974121,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-17T18:20:20.733000",
          "content": "",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 974342,
          "author_name": "Utkarsh Chandra Srivastava",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-08-17T23:04:50.843000",
          "content": "<p>Chinese medal sellers?</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 974028,
      "author_name": "Dracarys",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T17:14:53.633000",
      "content": "<p>I am sure, this won't happen in private LB, trust your instincts (pick 3 selections wisely) and hope for best.</p>",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 974259,
      "author_name": "Yassine Alouini",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T20:47:42.123000",
      "content": "<p>As it has been shared, this isn't normal and it is just plain cheating. Don't worry though if you have properly validated your model, you will survive!</p>",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 973987,
      "author_name": "Ali Abdin",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T16:44:10.090000",
      "content": "<p>Look at position 6,7,8 all of them submitted 9h ago, on top of that they have very similar scores. Intresting.</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 973979,
      "author_name": "Tanay Mehta",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T16:37:54.333000",
      "content": "<p>I think I have some idea. I saw some guy's post this morning (it's night right now) and he was complaining how an other guy made some notebook and is giving away like top-solution file on SIIM-ISIC Challenge. And so many people just got that file and are submitting like crazy.<br>\nI don't know how verified that accusation was, but I think this may be the reason.</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 974093,
      "author_name": "Vadim Timakin",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T18:08:40.213000",
      "content": "<p>In shake-up we trust. In the private dataset we trust. </p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 974077,
      "author_name": "Signal",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T17:55:54.767000",
      "content": "<p>Yeah, it's being discussed <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/174635#973667\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/174635#973667</a></p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 974035,
      "author_name": "ELEVEN",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T17:18:38.213000",
      "content": "<p>looks like an expanding greedy virus..</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 974230,
      "author_name": "Michal Brezak",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T20:11:55.130000",
      "content": "<p>It seems to be simple cheating and medals hunting 🙄</p>",
      "votes": -1,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 974118,
      "author_name": "ARJUN TANDON",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-17T18:17:19.440000",
      "content": "<p>i think they just copy the high scoring public kernels to climb leaderboard and get medals . this is not good . </p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "973970": "Checked the LB, found I'd dropped about 50-60 places in a few hours and the LB looks like this:\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F2309090%2F9c04423644e0fc119484796b13621c46%2Flb.png?generation=1597681596966435&alt=media)\n\nMost of the novice accounts in the top ranks have no previous posts, info, comps, etc. \nThis is the first competition that I have taken really seriously. Is this kind of thing normal at the end or is something fishy going on?",
    "973988": "you can find all about it in this discussion, Kaggle need to do something about it  https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175156",
    "974043": "Yep. I joined my team at the merger deadline a week ago, we had a score of 0.9664 and were #36. Now we are #140 with 0.9670. Something is wrong, I think it is the Chinese medal sellers. I don't expect them to do too well on private LB, so I'm hoping these scores will be rectified. Best of luck to you today, may the shakedown be kind to us!",
    "974028": "I am sure, this won't happen in private LB, trust your instincts (pick 3 selections wisely) and hope for best.",
    "974259": "As it has been shared, this isn't normal and it is just plain cheating. Don't worry though if you have properly validated your model, you will survive!",
    "973987": "Look at position 6,7,8 all of them submitted 9h ago, on top of that they have very similar scores. Intresting.",
    "973979": "I think I have some idea. I saw some guy's post this morning (it's night right now) and he was complaining how an other guy made some notebook and is giving away like top-solution file on SIIM-ISIC Challenge. And so many people just got that file and are submitting like crazy.\nI don't know how verified that accusation was, but I think this may be the reason.\n",
    "974093": "In shake-up we trust. In the private dataset we trust. ",
    "974077": "Yeah, it's being discussed https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/174635#973667",
    "974035": "looks like an expanding greedy virus..",
    "974230": "It seems to be simple cheating and medals hunting 🙄",
    "974118": "i think they just copy the high scoring public kernels to climb leaderboard and get medals . this is not good . "
  }
}