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\nYou might be violating the terms by selling any work done on Kaggle outside the platform.
I've given some notebook and docs from past competitions as examples. And they pay me for this. At the same time, they asked me to add the names of some of the teams[ angtk.ai ]. pay for this. But I don't know what kind of ads they use these screenshots for. At the same time, advertisements from more than one source cannot be used as evidence.
", "messages": [ { "id": 973734, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:36:43.810Z", "content": "Hmm ok, double topic so double question then.
\nWho exactly are all these people with novice accounts with who you team up during many different competitions? Are these real life friends, or how do you get to know these people? Many of them created their accounts only shortly before teaming up with you, or were inactive for a very long time before that.
\nIn case you don't know which accounts specifically, I am talking about these:
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/xmj9999
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/wangzongxian
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/qw1120
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/a17194629512
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/a17186815860
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/lyk1988525
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/bonjourcava
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/lpyczn
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/touwozhan64706
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/caobu90283701
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/thekai0
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/xujiabo
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/tomshencumt
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/changyanjiang
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/stevegary
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/mashuhui
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/zuqiaodao1051987
Some of them I met in the community, some of them were case studies with me, but we discussed the competition as a group. I don't think this has affected anyone else! They can make me submit more times.
", "rawMarkdown": "Some of them I met in the community, some of them were case studies with me, but we discussed the competition as a group. I don't think this has affected anyone else! They can make me submit more times.", "votes": -9 }, { "id": 973747, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:48:47.223Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 973748, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:48:56.470Z", "content": "Where exactly did you discuss everything regarding the competition \"as a group\"? In some private channel not accessible to all kagglers?
\nWhat exactly do you mean with \"They can make me submit more times.\"?
", "rawMarkdown": "Where exactly did you discuss everything regarding the competition \"as a group\"? In some private channel not accessible to all kagglers?\n\nWhat exactly do you mean with \"They can make me submit more times.\"?", "votes": 2 }, { "id": 973751, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:49:58.443Z", "content": "That simply mean he took money and extra submissions from some people and in return he distributed them some fancy medals.
", "rawMarkdown": "That simply mean he took money and extra submissions from some people and in return he distributed them some fancy medals." }, { "id": 973763, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:57:50.663Z", "content": "I just share with my teammates in the same game and same team!
", "rawMarkdown": "I just share with my teammates in the same game and same team!", "votes": -4, "replies": [ { "id": 974136, "postDate": "2020-08-17T18:31:08.533Z", "content": "But why would you share with complete novices? You had to know you were being \"set up\" with novices who paid for a medal. Your defense is claiming ignorance? As a Master you just let random newbies who contribute nothing but money join your group?
", "rawMarkdown": "But why would you share with complete novices? You had to know you were being \"set up\" with novices who paid for a medal. Your defense is claiming ignorance? As a Master you just let random newbies who contribute nothing but money join your group?" } ] }, { "id": 973765, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:59:15.920Z", "content": "The group is all in one team.
", "rawMarkdown": "The group is all in one team.", "votes": -4 }, { "id": 973768, "postDate": "2020-08-17T14:01:44.223Z", "content": "Sharing in a team is absolutely normal, but the thing is that these guys are not legitimate and also, since you have taken money from them, this becomes a business.
\nJust for example, consider some GM make me his team-mate and tell me about everything he wants to do with the data, but I am doing nothing but waiting for the competition to end for which I have paid you, so I can grab my medal. Will that make me qualified enough for GM? Ask Yourself.
\nThese guys are surely gonna banned, but since you have become a bridge between them and Kaggle, you too will have to face heat.
", "rawMarkdown": "Sharing in a team is absolutely normal, but the thing is that these guys are not legitimate and also, since you have taken money from them, this becomes a business.\n\nJust for example, consider some GM make me his team-mate and tell me about everything he wants to do with the data, but I am doing nothing but waiting for the competition to end for which I have paid you, so I can grab my medal. Will that make me qualified enough for GM? Ask Yourself.\n\nThese guys are surely gonna banned, but since you have become a bridge between them and Kaggle, you too will have to face heat." }, { "id": 973778, "postDate": "2020-08-17T14:06:27.607Z", "content": "I said I just added the team name[ angtk.ai ], charge for advertising. I didn't say these people gave me money to join my team.
", "rawMarkdown": "I said I just added the team name[ angtk.ai ], charge for advertising. I didn't say these people gave me money to join my team.", "votes": -4 }, { "id": 975124, "postDate": "2020-08-18T06:56:06.840Z", "content": "it's a dirty game bro
", "rawMarkdown": "it's a dirty game bro" } ] }, { "id": 974135, "postDate": "2020-08-17T18:29:13.187Z", "content": "It's easy to say \" I have given them from past competitions \". How do we know you didn't give them BEFORE the competition ended? Why the heck would they buy it from you AFTER the competition? After the competition, the top solutions are available and published, and its common for many people, even in 20th, 50th, an etc place to just share publically there code. It would make no sense them buying from you after. They have your code, you sold it to them, it's going to come out that others who benefitted in the competition used your code, and it sounds like you are just trying to cover yourself.
", "rawMarkdown": "It's easy to say \" I have given them from past competitions \". How do we know you didn't give them BEFORE the competition ended? Why the heck would they buy it from you AFTER the competition? After the competition, the top solutions are available and published, and its common for many people, even in 20th, 50th, an etc place to just share publically there code. It would make no sense them buying from you after. They have your code, you sold it to them, it's going to come out that others who benefitted in the competition used your code, and it sounds like you are just trying to cover yourself.", "votes": 4 }, { "id": 973764, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:59:13.053Z", "content": "\n\nI've given some notebook and docs from past competitions as examples. And they pay me for this.
\n
From https://www.kaggle.com/terms :
\n
\nYou might be violating the terms by selling any work done on Kaggle outside the platform.
I sold some of my own docs and notes after the competiton . Isn't that ok?
", "rawMarkdown": "I sold some of my own docs and notes after the competiton . Isn't that ok?\n", "votes": -7 }, { "id": 973784, "postDate": "2020-08-17T14:10:02.167Z", "content": "Not sure this refers to the code, you have a license of the code after a competition.
", "rawMarkdown": "Not sure this refers to the code, you have a license of the code after a competition.", "votes": 2 } ] }, { "id": 973731, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:35:04.077Z", "content": "I've given some notebook and docs from past competitions as examples. And they pay me for this. At the same time, they asked me to add the names of some of the teams[ angtk.ai ]. pay for this. But I don't know what kind of ads they use these screenshots for. At the same time, advertisements from more than one source cannot be used as evidence.
", "rawMarkdown": "I've given some notebook and docs from past competitions as examples. And they pay me for this. At the same time, they asked me to add the names of some of the teams[ angtk.ai ]. pay for this. But I don't know what kind of ads they use these screenshots for. At the same time, advertisements from more than one source cannot be used as evidence.", "votes": -45 }, { "id": 973762, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:57:11.230Z", "content": "ok, why are you selling Kaggle medals? :D. Did you give Kaggle a monetary commission because Kaggle is the one who provides medals in the first place? :D
", "rawMarkdown": "ok, why are you selling Kaggle medals? :D. Did you give Kaggle a monetary commission because Kaggle is the one who provides medals in the first place? :D", "votes": -2 } ], "comments": [ { "id": 973734, "author_name": "Gilles Vandewiele", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T13:36:43.810000", "content": "Hmm ok, double topic so double question then.
\nWho exactly are all these people with novice accounts with who you team up during many different competitions? Are these real life friends, or how do you get to know these people? Many of them created their accounts only shortly before teaming up with you, or were inactive for a very long time before that.
\nIn case you don't know which accounts specifically, I am talking about these:
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/xmj9999
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/wangzongxian
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/qw1120
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/a17194629512
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/a17186815860
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/lyk1988525
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/bonjourcava
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/lpyczn
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/touwozhan64706
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/caobu90283701
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/thekai0
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/xujiabo
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/tomshencumt
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/changyanjiang
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/stevegary
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/mashuhui
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/zuqiaodao1051987
Some of them I met in the community, some of them were case studies with me, but we discussed the competition as a group. I don't think this has affected anyone else! They can make me submit more times.
", "votes": -9, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973747, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T13:48:47.223000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973748, "author_name": "Gilles Vandewiele", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T13:48:56.470000", "content": "Where exactly did you discuss everything regarding the competition \"as a group\"? In some private channel not accessible to all kagglers?
\nWhat exactly do you mean with \"They can make me submit more times.\"?
", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973751, "author_name": "Gajendra Saraswat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T13:49:58.443000", "content": "That simply mean he took money and extra submissions from some people and in return he distributed them some fancy medals.
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973763, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T13:57:50.663000", "content": "I just share with my teammates in the same game and same team!
", "votes": -4, "replies": [ { "id": 974136, "author_name": "Signal", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T18:31:08.533000", "content": "But why would you share with complete novices? You had to know you were being \"set up\" with novices who paid for a medal. Your defense is claiming ignorance? As a Master you just let random newbies who contribute nothing but money join your group?
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 973765, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T13:59:15.920000", "content": "The group is all in one team.
", "votes": -4, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973768, "author_name": "Gajendra Saraswat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T14:01:44.223000", "content": "Sharing in a team is absolutely normal, but the thing is that these guys are not legitimate and also, since you have taken money from them, this becomes a business.
\nJust for example, consider some GM make me his team-mate and tell me about everything he wants to do with the data, but I am doing nothing but waiting for the competition to end for which I have paid you, so I can grab my medal. Will that make me qualified enough for GM? Ask Yourself.
\nThese guys are surely gonna banned, but since you have become a bridge between them and Kaggle, you too will have to face heat.
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973778, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T14:06:27.607000", "content": "I said I just added the team name[ angtk.ai ], charge for advertising. I didn't say these people gave me money to join my team.
", "votes": -4, "replies": [] }, { "id": 975124, "author_name": "RoRonoA-TKO", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-18T06:56:06.840000", "content": "it's a dirty game bro
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 974135, "author_name": "Signal", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T18:29:13.187000", "content": "It's easy to say \" I have given them from past competitions \". How do we know you didn't give them BEFORE the competition ended? Why the heck would they buy it from you AFTER the competition? After the competition, the top solutions are available and published, and its common for many people, even in 20th, 50th, an etc place to just share publically there code. It would make no sense them buying from you after. They have your code, you sold it to them, it's going to come out that others who benefitted in the competition used your code, and it sounds like you are just trying to cover yourself.
", "votes": 4, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973764, "author_name": "Vopani", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T13:59:13.053000", "content": "\n\nI've given some notebook and docs from past competitions as examples. And they pay me for this.
\n
From https://www.kaggle.com/terms :
\n
\nYou might be violating the terms by selling any work done on Kaggle outside the platform.
I sold some of my own docs and notes after the competiton . Isn't that ok?
", "votes": -7, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973784, "author_name": "Psi", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T14:10:02.167000", "content": "Not sure this refers to the code, you have a license of the code after a competition.
", "votes": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 973762, "author_name": "FGPC", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T13:57:11.230000", "content": "ok, why are you selling Kaggle medals? :D. Did you give Kaggle a monetary commission because Kaggle is the one who provides medals in the first place? :D
", "votes": -2, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "973734": "[Hmm ok, double topic so double question then.](https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175196)\n\nWho exactly are all these people with novice accounts with who you team up during many different competitions? Are these real life friends, or how do you get to know these people? Many of them created their accounts only shortly before teaming up with you, or were inactive for a very long time before that.\n\nIn case you don't know which accounts specifically, I am talking about these:\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/xmj9999\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/wangzongxian\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/qw1120\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/a17194629512\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/a17186815860\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/lyk1988525\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/bonjourcava\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/lpyczn\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/touwozhan64706\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/caobu90283701\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/thekai0\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/xujiabo\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/tomshencumt\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/changyanjiang\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/stevegary\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/mashuhui\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/zuqiaodao1051987", "974135": "It's easy to say \" I have given them from past competitions \". How do we know you didn't give them BEFORE the competition ended? Why the heck would they buy it from you AFTER the competition? After the competition, the top solutions are available and published, and its common for many people, even in 20th, 50th, an etc place to just share publically there code. It would make no sense them buying from you after. They have your code, you sold it to them, it's going to come out that others who benefitted in the competition used your code, and it sounds like you are just trying to cover yourself.", "973764": "> I've given some notebook and docs from past competitions as examples. And they pay me for this.\n\nFrom https://www.kaggle.com/terms :\n\nYou might be violating the terms by selling any work done on Kaggle outside the platform.", "973731": "I've given some notebook and docs from past competitions as examples. And they pay me for this. At the same time, they asked me to add the names of some of the teams[ angtk.ai ]. pay for this. But I don't know what kind of ads they use these screenshots for. At the same time, advertisements from more than one source cannot be used as evidence.", "973762": "ok, why are you selling Kaggle medals? :D. Did you give Kaggle a monetary commission because Kaggle is the one who provides medals in the first place? :D" } }