{ "id": 175023, "title": "Good Luck Everyone!", "url": "/competitions/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175023", "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "post_date": "2020-08-16T19:01:52.767000", "votes": 46, "comment_count": 42, "views": 0, "content": "

Since competition coming close to the end I wish you all best of luck. Especially the people work hard with honest approach on their submissions. Hope you all end up at the rank where you deserve!

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It was my first ongoing competition and learned a lot on the way, thanks to all who shared their experiences to the community.

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Btw I feel like I'm overfitted but oh well, then I'll experience my first shakeup too :)

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Anyways good luck all!

", "messages": [ { "id": 972728, "postDate": "2020-08-16T19:01:52.767Z", "content": "

Since competition coming close to the end I wish you all best of luck. Especially the people work hard with honest approach on their submissions. Hope you all end up at the rank where you deserve!

\n

It was my first ongoing competition and learned a lot on the way, thanks to all who shared their experiences to the community.

\n

Btw I feel like I'm overfitted but oh well, then I'll experience my first shakeup too :)

\n

Anyways good luck all!

", "rawMarkdown": "Since competition coming close to the end I wish you all best of luck. Especially the people **work hard with honest approach** on their submissions. Hope you all end up at the rank where you deserve!\n\nIt was my first ongoing competition and learned a lot on the way, thanks to all who shared their experiences to the community. \n\nBtw I feel like I'm overfitted but oh well, then I'll experience my first shakeup too :)\n\nAnyways good luck all!", "votes": 45 }, { "id": 972897, "postDate": "2020-08-17T00:35:03.477Z", "content": "

In my first competition (Microsoft Malware 1.5 years ago), I dropped 1400 positions in a shakeup, so if you do better than that, you're starting Kaggle competitions better than I did.

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Good luck Ertugrul. I hope private leaderboard treats you well. Your analysis and models were very helpful.

", "rawMarkdown": "In my first competition (Microsoft Malware 1.5 years ago), I dropped 1400 positions in a shakeup, so if you do better than that, you're starting Kaggle competitions better than I did. \n\nGood luck Ertugrul. I hope private leaderboard treats you well. Your analysis and models were very helpful.", "votes": 17, "replies": [ { "id": 972900, "postDate": "2020-08-17T00:45:29.050Z", "content": "

Wow that must be tough! I wish you same, your work was baseline for many, your datasets were like my must go, think you deserve gold zone…

", "rawMarkdown": "Wow that must be tough! I wish you same, your work was baseline for many, your datasets were like my must go, think you deserve gold zone...", "votes": 4 }, { "id": 972913, "postDate": "2020-08-17T01:08:20.370Z", "content": "

It was very tough. I poured my heart into that comp, and felt completely defeated. But I used the defeat as encouragement and worked harder and smarter. My next comp I got solo Silver. And my next next comp, I got solo Gold !! Those were very happy moments. I was at my parents' house when the solo Gold was announced. Me and my parents were dancing around the room! 🙂

", "rawMarkdown": "It was very tough. I poured my heart into that comp, and felt completely defeated. But I used the defeat as encouragement and worked harder and smarter. My next comp I got solo Silver. And my next next comp, I got solo Gold !! Those were very happy moments. I was at my parents' house when the solo Gold was announced. Me and my parents were dancing around the room! 🙂", "votes": 36, "replies": [ { "id": 972925, "postDate": "2020-08-17T01:25:33.053Z", "content": "

@cdeotte Inspiring, this is also my so called second serious comp, the first serious one being Global Wheat Detection. For this comp I put even more time on it, hope I can withstand the shakeup; if not, I still take comfort that even one of the greatest GM like you also failed once before.

", "rawMarkdown": "@cdeotte Inspiring, this is also my so called second serious comp, the first serious one being Global Wheat Detection. For this comp I put even more time on it, hope I can withstand the shakeup; if not, I still take comfort that even one of the greatest GM like you also failed once before.", "votes": 3 } ] }, { "id": 972923, "postDate": "2020-08-17T01:23:43.257Z", "content": "

@cdeotte It sounds super great that you've shared your happy moment with your parents. Bengali.ai was our first active trying completion and we shook up badly. But it was a great lesson. Back then, I wasn't very newbie in ml but was a newbie in kaggle.

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However, next was multilingual toxic classification, we're in the silver zone right 2 weeks before the competition end, and then we're invited, to form a team with one of a similar scored team. However, the point is, we won. My mom kept asking me, 'why I don't eat in time, sleep in time…what I'm doing all this time - month to month?' Then I showed to her and literally described what kaggle is; and told her that, we've achieved our first medal and it was silver. She was so so happy, even shared with our relatives. 😄

", "rawMarkdown": "@cdeotte It sounds super great that you've shared your happy moment with your parents. Bengali.ai was our first active trying completion and we shook up badly. But it was a great lesson. Back then, I wasn't very newbie in ml but was a newbie in kaggle.\n\nHowever, next was multilingual toxic classification, we're in the silver zone right 2 weeks before the competition end, and then we're invited, to form a team with one of a similar scored team. However, the point is, we won. My mom kept asking me, 'why I don't eat in time, sleep in time...what I'm doing all this time - month to month?' Then I showed to her and literally described what kaggle is; and told her that, we've achieved our first medal and it was silver. She was so so happy, even shared with our relatives. 😄", "votes": 5 }, { "id": 972948, "postDate": "2020-08-17T01:46:14.797Z", "content": "

@cdeotte your passion for data science is inspiring. It's also great to have a family that understands your passion and shares it, great story!

", "rawMarkdown": "@cdeotte your passion for data science is inspiring. It's also great to have a family that understands your passion and shares it, great story!", "votes": 3 }, { "id": 973181, "postDate": "2020-08-17T06:44:23.277Z", "content": "

I dropped 1.5k in my first one (IEEE-CIS Fraud Detection) )) Learnt a lot, and never dropped much since, hope the trend will continue) GL everyone

", "rawMarkdown": "I dropped 1.5k in my first one (IEEE-CIS Fraud Detection) )) Learnt a lot, and never dropped much since, hope the trend will continue) GL everyone", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 974032, "postDate": "2020-08-17T17:16:41.320Z", "content": "

Good luck and fasten your seat belts for what is coming!

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", "rawMarkdown": "Good luck and fasten your seat belts for what is coming!\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F554091%2F796b34c79fc3aeeb06a3f2eaf06ee278%2Fturbulence.png?generation=1597679387584738&alt=media)", "votes": 5 }, { "id": 973302, "postDate": "2020-08-17T08:20:01.997Z", "content": "

Good luck @datafan07 :-) !

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I hope you will survive the shake-up or at least do not experience a bad break-down. I will never forget the shake-ups I experienced so far and that overfitting on the public LB is a very sweet but bad temptation.

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Regardless what will happen, never forget what you have learnt during the competition. This is the true reward one can obtain and which makes taking part in competitions such fruitful! Personally I learnt so much new stuff again that is helpful for my daily work, starting with new tools I tried out (like albumentations package), new coding stuff I learnt (like implementing multiclass focal loss) continuing with new concepts I often had in mind but never tried out so far (like stratification on the patients) and ideas on how to adapt to the test data based on EDA.

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It was really a pleasure to take part in this competition even with my tiny little spare time I was able to contribute. This is definitely one of my favourite comps so far even though I still feel like in a score-lottery.

", "rawMarkdown": "Good luck @datafan07 :-) !\n\nI hope you will survive the shake-up or at least do not experience a bad break-down. I will never forget the shake-ups I experienced so far and that overfitting on the public LB is a very sweet but bad temptation. \n\nRegardless what will happen, never forget what you have learnt during the competition. This is the true reward one can obtain and which makes taking part in competitions such fruitful! Personally I learnt so much new stuff again that is helpful for my daily work, starting with new tools I tried out (like albumentations package), new coding stuff I learnt (like implementing multiclass focal loss) continuing with new concepts I often had in mind but never tried out so far (like stratification on the patients) and ideas on how to adapt to the test data based on EDA. \n\nIt was really a pleasure to take part in this competition even with my tiny little spare time I was able to contribute. This is definitely one of my favourite comps so far even though I still feel like in a score-lottery. ", "votes": 5, "replies": [ { "id": 973322, "postDate": "2020-08-17T08:42:00.593Z", "content": "

Yeah my biggest gain will be experience for sure… Your contributions on this competition were great anyways!

", "rawMarkdown": "Yeah my biggest gain will be experience for sure... Your contributions on this competition were great anyways!", "votes": 2 } ] }, { "id": 974026, "postDate": "2020-08-17T17:12:55.343Z", "content": "

Good luck all and thanks to everyone who has contributed over the last few months.

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It's my first competition (except for starter comps) and its been a fantastic experience. I was up to 50th position at one point but am now way out of the medals so at least I can sleep tonight without fear of the shake up!

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Echoing @mviola comments below, this competition has been a goldmine of learning opportunities and a real journey, including plenty of drama, from start to finish. From tomorrow I'm just going to do some gardening for a few days just to decompress!

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Thanks again to all who have contributed to the discussion and the notebooks. See you all after the finish line.

", "rawMarkdown": "Good luck all and thanks to everyone who has contributed over the last few months.\n\nIt's my first competition (except for starter comps) and its been a fantastic experience. I was up to 50th position at one point but am now way out of the medals so at least I can sleep tonight without fear of the shake up!\n\nEchoing @mviola comments below, this competition has been a goldmine of learning opportunities and a real journey, including plenty of drama, from start to finish. From tomorrow I'm just going to do some gardening for a few days just to decompress!\n\nThanks again to all who have contributed to the discussion and the notebooks. See you all after the finish line.", "votes": 6 }, { "id": 972781, "postDate": "2020-08-16T20:21:48.717Z", "content": "

Hope you'll end in a nice place without any shake up, you deserve it!

", "rawMarkdown": "Hope you'll end in a nice place without any shake up, you deserve it!", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 972788, "postDate": "2020-08-16T20:30:35.993Z", "content": "

Thank you Fırat! It's really nice to hear it from you!

", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you Fırat! It's really nice to hear it from you!", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 972732, "postDate": "2020-08-16T19:06:06.880Z", "content": "

Thanks for your contribution in this comp as well.
\nI like your kernels which have good scores without complexe blending & processing.

", "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for your contribution in this comp as well. \nI like your kernels which have good scores without complexe blending & processing.", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 972797, "postDate": "2020-08-16T20:32:41.967Z", "content": "

Thank you!

", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you!" } ] }, { "id": 973332, "postDate": "2020-08-17T08:50:00.837Z", "content": "

Good luck everyone!
\nAs a spectator, I still enjoyed reading the forum and seeing you all discussing augmentation techniques, finding leaks, setting up a solid CV strategy, and even estimating the shakeup!
\nFor any future doubts, I am pretty sure I can come back here and read something because this competition is a gold mine of ideas.
\nI hope you all can get the position you deserve with your honest approach, despite all the issues of solution sharing and public high scoring notebooks.
\nI like to take one step at a time so I'll be playing around with the getting started competitions for a while, but one day I am sure I'll be here competing with you and fearing my first 2000 positions drop!
\nHave a nice day (or night) and have a laugh if things don't go as you wanted, we are here to get better and better!

", "rawMarkdown": "Good luck everyone! \nAs a spectator, I still enjoyed reading the forum and seeing you all discussing augmentation techniques, finding leaks, setting up a solid CV strategy, and even estimating the shakeup! \nFor any future doubts, I am pretty sure I can come back here and read something because this competition is a gold mine of ideas. \nI hope you all can get the position you deserve with your honest approach, despite all the issues of solution sharing and public high scoring notebooks. \nI like to take one step at a time so I'll be playing around with the getting started competitions for a while, but one day I am sure I'll be here competing with you and fearing my first 2000 positions drop! \nHave a nice day (or night) and have a laugh if things don't go as you wanted, we are here to get better and better!", "votes": 4 }, { "id": 974092, "postDate": "2020-08-17T18:08:39.507Z", "content": "

Best of luck dear fellows. I guess there will be a lot of 3 digit movements ( +xxx / -xxx) in the private LB; might be that I am one of them. I am very interested in the outcome!

", "rawMarkdown": "Best of luck dear fellows. I guess there will be a lot of 3 digit movements ( +xxx / -xxx) in the private LB; might be that I am one of them. I am very interested in the outcome! ", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 973978, "postDate": "2020-08-17T16:37:51.813Z", "content": "

Good luck! Thanks for sharing two great notebook, learned a lot!
\nI spent a lot of time in this competition, but stucked about two weeks, tried various methods, nothing worked.. Wondering if i can still get a medal.. Still a lot to be learned. 😃

", "rawMarkdown": "Good luck! Thanks for sharing two great notebook, learned a lot! \nI spent a lot of time in this competition, but stucked about two weeks, tried various methods, nothing worked.. Wondering if i can still get a medal.. Still a lot to be learned. 😃", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 973975, "postDate": "2020-08-17T16:33:40.317Z", "content": "

Good luck!
\n(I have learnt a lot from you!)

", "rawMarkdown": "Good luck!\n(I have learnt a lot from you!)", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 973692, "postDate": "2020-08-17T13:10:47.790Z", "content": "

Thanks for the kind words, congratulations to everyone who was in the competition!

", "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for the kind words, congratulations to everyone who was in the competition!", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 973656, "postDate": "2020-08-17T12:38:29.253Z", "content": "

Good luck and All the best everyone :)

", "rawMarkdown": "Good luck and All the best everyone :) ", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 973305, "postDate": "2020-08-17T08:21:09.887Z", "content": "

same feeling here, been working on this comp for the past 2 months and half. Good luck to you as well !

", "rawMarkdown": "same feeling here, been working on this comp for the past 2 months and half. Good luck to you as well !", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 973243, "postDate": "2020-08-17T07:36:28.323Z", "content": "

Congratulations, this is the first time I have done an image competition seriously, but it is really difficult to get a good result.

", "rawMarkdown": "Congratulations, this is the first time I have done an image competition seriously, but it is really difficult to get a good result.", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 972869, "postDate": "2020-08-16T23:14:37.540Z", "content": "

I learned a lot from your kernels and I Hope you score well in the privateLB, Good Luck!!

", "rawMarkdown": "I learned a lot from your kernels and I Hope you score well in the privateLB, Good Luck!!", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 973004, "postDate": "2020-08-17T03:11:51.447Z", "content": "

Wow. You are really doing pretty great in your first competition. This is my first competition too and I heard about data science 4 months ago :( . I have learnt a lot of things from this competition.Your notebooks were precious. Thanks a lot. Good luck. Godspeed

", "rawMarkdown": "Wow. You are really doing pretty great in your first competition. This is my first competition too and I heard about data science 4 months ago :( . I have learnt a lot of things from this competition.Your notebooks were precious. Thanks a lot. Good luck. Godspeed", "votes": 2 }, { "id": 972765, "postDate": "2020-08-16T20:09:54.563Z", "content": "

@datafan07 Thank you for your wonderful notebook. Truly remarkable. Hopefully, we'll see the yellowish tier. It's a matter of time. ;)

", "rawMarkdown": "@datafan07 Thank you for your wonderful notebook. Truly remarkable. Hopefully, we'll see the yellowish tier. It's a matter of time. ;) ", "votes": 2, "replies": [ { "id": 972790, "postDate": "2020-08-16T20:30:54.967Z", "content": "

Thank you for your kind words!

", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for your kind words!", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 972745, "postDate": "2020-08-16T19:25:46.200Z", "content": "

High-scored kernels and blends of blends broke public LB, now only guys with perfect LB and CV can be confident and sleep well.
\nI also feel myself overfitted as many others so we should just wait private LB and ask SHAKEUP for favour.
\nYou worked hard and your kernels were very helpful, hope you will take good place, good luck!

", "rawMarkdown": "High-scored kernels and blends of blends broke public LB, now only guys with perfect LB and CV can be confident and sleep well. \nI also feel myself overfitted as many others so we should just wait private LB and ask SHAKEUP for favour.\nYou worked hard and your kernels were very helpful, hope you will take good place, good luck!", "votes": 2, "replies": [ { "id": 972759, "postDate": "2020-08-16T19:59:54.357Z", "content": "
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only guys with perfect LB and CV can be confident and sleep well.

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It would be nice to know what those \"perfect\" values are😏… Well, I guess we will find out soon enough.

", "rawMarkdown": "> only guys with perfect LB and CV can be confident and sleep well.\n\nIt would be nice to know what those \"perfect\" values are😏... Well, I guess we will find out soon enough." }, { "id": 972796, "postDate": "2020-08-16T20:32:36.053Z", "content": "

Thank you, that's true I was following my CV at the beginning but after crazy LB drops I couldn't help myself to spend some time on overfitted models to climb back up again. I feels like that's really bad approach but well experience to be gained!

", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you, that's true I was following my CV at the beginning but after crazy LB drops I couldn't help myself to spend some time on overfitted models to climb back up again. I feels like that's really bad approach but well experience to be gained!", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 973192, "postDate": "2020-08-17T06:53:40.440Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": 1, "isDeleted": true } ] }, { "id": 974893, "postDate": "2020-08-18T04:43:25.003Z", "content": "

All the best to you..

", "rawMarkdown": "All the best to you.." }, { "id": 974672, "postDate": "2020-08-18T02:27:09.880Z", "content": "

Good luck!

", "rawMarkdown": "Good luck!" }, { "id": 974669, "postDate": "2020-08-18T02:26:10.240Z", "content": "

Good luck to all!

", "rawMarkdown": "Good luck to all!" }, { "id": 973242, "postDate": "2020-08-17T07:34:11.783Z", "content": "
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Btw I feel like I'm overfitted but oh well, then I'll experience my first shakeup too :)

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Are you in any case using any publicly available blends? Or you think you are overfitting due to your own subs?

", "rawMarkdown": "> Btw I feel like I'm overfitted but oh well, then I'll experience my first shakeup too :)\n\n\nAre you in any case using any publicly available blends? Or you think you are overfitting due to your own subs?", "replies": [ { "id": 973295, "postDate": "2020-08-17T08:15:13.247Z", "content": "

That suspicion was based on my cv lb difference

", "rawMarkdown": "That suspicion was based on my cv lb difference" }, { "id": 973300, "postDate": "2020-08-17T08:19:31.080Z", "content": "

Okay, thanks for confirming! I tried one public blend with 0.9581 score on LB, I did make one sub by blending it with my sub, and I can tell you, it's awefully overfitting. So, in my consideration, All public blends are traps.

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Now, I have selected all the 3 submissions for final score from my own set. :/

", "rawMarkdown": "Okay, thanks for confirming! I tried one public blend with 0.9581 score on LB, I did make one sub by blending it with my sub, and I can tell you, it's awefully overfitting. So, in my consideration, All public blends are traps. \n\nNow, I have selected all the 3 submissions for final score from my own set. :/", "votes": 2 }, { "id": 973320, "postDate": "2020-08-17T08:39:21.357Z", "content": "

Yeah go with your own work. I just got one new idea like 4 hours ago gave me 94 CV and 95 LB with single model, but I don't think there's much time left to improve it, I was planning to make that my last selection with couple different image sizes but whatever time issues…😄

", "rawMarkdown": "Yeah go with your own work. I just got one new idea like 4 hours ago gave me 94 CV and 95 LB with single model, but I don't think there's much time left to improve it, I was planning to make that my last selection with couple different image sizes but whatever time issues...😄" }, { "id": 973323, "postDate": "2020-08-17T08:42:44.400Z", "content": "

Yeah, new ideas are coming to my mind daily, on the other hand, I utilized all my 5 submissions for today early in the morning, just after waking up. Excitement for the first competition is on a different level! 😄😄

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So I'm done for this competition now! :)

", "rawMarkdown": "Yeah, new ideas are coming to my mind daily, on the other hand, I utilized all my 5 submissions for today early in the morning, just after waking up. Excitement for the first competition is on a different level! 😄😄\n\nSo I'm done for this competition now! :)", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 975764, "postDate": "2020-08-18T13:08:31.080Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": 1, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 973963, "postDate": "2020-08-17T16:24:06.117Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": 1, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 976481, "postDate": "2020-08-18T22:14:38.873Z", "content": "

Thanks and good luck.

", "rawMarkdown": "Thanks and good luck." } ], "comments": [ { "id": 972897, "author_name": "Chris Deotte", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T00:35:03.477000", "content": "

In my first competition (Microsoft Malware 1.5 years ago), I dropped 1400 positions in a shakeup, so if you do better than that, you're starting Kaggle competitions better than I did.

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Good luck Ertugrul. I hope private leaderboard treats you well. Your analysis and models were very helpful.

", "votes": 17, "replies": [ { "id": 972900, "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T00:45:29.050000", "content": "

Wow that must be tough! I wish you same, your work was baseline for many, your datasets were like my must go, think you deserve gold zone…

", "votes": 4, "replies": [] }, { "id": 972913, "author_name": "Chris Deotte", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T01:08:20.370000", "content": "

It was very tough. I poured my heart into that comp, and felt completely defeated. But I used the defeat as encouragement and worked harder and smarter. My next comp I got solo Silver. And my next next comp, I got solo Gold !! Those were very happy moments. I was at my parents' house when the solo Gold was announced. Me and my parents were dancing around the room! 🙂

", "votes": 36, "replies": [ { "id": 972925, "author_name": "gao-hongnan", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T01:25:33.053000", "content": "

@cdeotte Inspiring, this is also my so called second serious comp, the first serious one being Global Wheat Detection. For this comp I put even more time on it, hope I can withstand the shakeup; if not, I still take comfort that even one of the greatest GM like you also failed once before.

", "votes": 3, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 972923, "author_name": "Innat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T01:23:43.257000", "content": "

@cdeotte It sounds super great that you've shared your happy moment with your parents. Bengali.ai was our first active trying completion and we shook up badly. But it was a great lesson. Back then, I wasn't very newbie in ml but was a newbie in kaggle.

\n

However, next was multilingual toxic classification, we're in the silver zone right 2 weeks before the competition end, and then we're invited, to form a team with one of a similar scored team. However, the point is, we won. My mom kept asking me, 'why I don't eat in time, sleep in time…what I'm doing all this time - month to month?' Then I showed to her and literally described what kaggle is; and told her that, we've achieved our first medal and it was silver. She was so so happy, even shared with our relatives. 😄

", "votes": 5, "replies": [] }, { "id": 972948, "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T01:46:14.797000", "content": "

@cdeotte your passion for data science is inspiring. It's also great to have a family that understands your passion and shares it, great story!

", "votes": 3, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973181, "author_name": "Iurii Uspangaliev", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T06:44:23.277000", "content": "

I dropped 1.5k in my first one (IEEE-CIS Fraud Detection) )) Learnt a lot, and never dropped much since, hope the trend will continue) GL everyone

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 974032, "author_name": "Nikita Kozodoi", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T17:16:41.320000", "content": "

Good luck and fasten your seat belts for what is coming!

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", "votes": 5, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973302, "author_name": "Laura Fink", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T08:20:01.997000", "content": "

Good luck @datafan07 :-) !

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I hope you will survive the shake-up or at least do not experience a bad break-down. I will never forget the shake-ups I experienced so far and that overfitting on the public LB is a very sweet but bad temptation.

\n

Regardless what will happen, never forget what you have learnt during the competition. This is the true reward one can obtain and which makes taking part in competitions such fruitful! Personally I learnt so much new stuff again that is helpful for my daily work, starting with new tools I tried out (like albumentations package), new coding stuff I learnt (like implementing multiclass focal loss) continuing with new concepts I often had in mind but never tried out so far (like stratification on the patients) and ideas on how to adapt to the test data based on EDA.

\n

It was really a pleasure to take part in this competition even with my tiny little spare time I was able to contribute. This is definitely one of my favourite comps so far even though I still feel like in a score-lottery.

", "votes": 5, "replies": [ { "id": 973322, "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T08:42:00.593000", "content": "

Yeah my biggest gain will be experience for sure… Your contributions on this competition were great anyways!

", "votes": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 974026, "author_name": "jsyphil", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T17:12:55.343000", "content": "

Good luck all and thanks to everyone who has contributed over the last few months.

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It's my first competition (except for starter comps) and its been a fantastic experience. I was up to 50th position at one point but am now way out of the medals so at least I can sleep tonight without fear of the shake up!

\n

Echoing @mviola comments below, this competition has been a goldmine of learning opportunities and a real journey, including plenty of drama, from start to finish. From tomorrow I'm just going to do some gardening for a few days just to decompress!

\n

Thanks again to all who have contributed to the discussion and the notebooks. See you all after the finish line.

", "votes": 6, "replies": [] }, { "id": 972781, "author_name": "Firat Gonen", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T20:21:48.717000", "content": "

Hope you'll end in a nice place without any shake up, you deserve it!

", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 972788, "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T20:30:35.993000", "content": "

Thank you Fırat! It's really nice to hear it from you!

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 972732, "author_name": "Changyi", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T19:06:06.880000", "content": "

Thanks for your contribution in this comp as well.
\nI like your kernels which have good scores without complexe blending & processing.

", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 972797, "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T20:32:41.967000", "content": "

Thank you!

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 973332, "author_name": "Massimiliano Viola", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T08:50:00.837000", "content": "

Good luck everyone!
\nAs a spectator, I still enjoyed reading the forum and seeing you all discussing augmentation techniques, finding leaks, setting up a solid CV strategy, and even estimating the shakeup!
\nFor any future doubts, I am pretty sure I can come back here and read something because this competition is a gold mine of ideas.
\nI hope you all can get the position you deserve with your honest approach, despite all the issues of solution sharing and public high scoring notebooks.
\nI like to take one step at a time so I'll be playing around with the getting started competitions for a while, but one day I am sure I'll be here competing with you and fearing my first 2000 positions drop!
\nHave a nice day (or night) and have a laugh if things don't go as you wanted, we are here to get better and better!

", "votes": 4, "replies": [] }, { "id": 974092, "author_name": "from coffee import *", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T18:08:39.507000", "content": "

Best of luck dear fellows. I guess there will be a lot of 3 digit movements ( +xxx / -xxx) in the private LB; might be that I am one of them. I am very interested in the outcome!

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973978, "author_name": "Helen", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T16:37:51.813000", "content": "

Good luck! Thanks for sharing two great notebook, learned a lot!
\nI spent a lot of time in this competition, but stucked about two weeks, tried various methods, nothing worked.. Wondering if i can still get a medal.. Still a lot to be learned. 😃

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973975, "author_name": "kaggler", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T16:33:40.317000", "content": "

Good luck!
\n(I have learnt a lot from you!)

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973692, "author_name": "Brandon Nova", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T13:10:47.790000", "content": "

Thanks for the kind words, congratulations to everyone who was in the competition!

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973656, "author_name": "Haider Ali Shuvo", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T12:38:29.253000", "content": "

Good luck and All the best everyone :)

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973305, "author_name": "Aziz_Belaweid", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T08:21:09.887000", "content": "

same feeling here, been working on this comp for the past 2 months and half. Good luck to you as well !

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973243, "author_name": "xckkcxxck", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T07:36:28.323000", "content": "

Congratulations, this is the first time I have done an image competition seriously, but it is really difficult to get a good result.

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 972869, "author_name": "Joseph Sankoorikal Johny", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T23:14:37.540000", "content": "

I learned a lot from your kernels and I Hope you score well in the privateLB, Good Luck!!

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973004, "author_name": "Rony", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T03:11:51.447000", "content": "

Wow. You are really doing pretty great in your first competition. This is my first competition too and I heard about data science 4 months ago :( . I have learnt a lot of things from this competition.Your notebooks were precious. Thanks a lot. Good luck. Godspeed

", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 972765, "author_name": "Innat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T20:09:54.563000", "content": "

@datafan07 Thank you for your wonderful notebook. Truly remarkable. Hopefully, we'll see the yellowish tier. It's a matter of time. ;)

", "votes": 2, "replies": [ { "id": 972790, "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T20:30:54.967000", "content": "

Thank you for your kind words!

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 972745, "author_name": "Sxwat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T19:25:46.200000", "content": "

High-scored kernels and blends of blends broke public LB, now only guys with perfect LB and CV can be confident and sleep well.
\nI also feel myself overfitted as many others so we should just wait private LB and ask SHAKEUP for favour.
\nYou worked hard and your kernels were very helpful, hope you will take good place, good luck!

", "votes": 2, "replies": [ { "id": 972759, "author_name": "Alexey Pronin", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T19:59:54.357000", "content": "
\n

only guys with perfect LB and CV can be confident and sleep well.

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It would be nice to know what those \"perfect\" values are😏… Well, I guess we will find out soon enough.

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 972796, "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-16T20:32:36.053000", "content": "

Thank you, that's true I was following my CV at the beginning but after crazy LB drops I couldn't help myself to spend some time on overfitted models to climb back up again. I feels like that's really bad approach but well experience to be gained!

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973192, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T06:53:40.440000", "content": "", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 974893, "author_name": "Raoof Naushad", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-18T04:43:25.003000", "content": "

All the best to you..

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 974672, "author_name": "Anton Popkov", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-18T02:27:09.880000", "content": "

Good luck!

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 974669, "author_name": "Anton Popkov", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-18T02:26:10.240000", "content": "

Good luck to all!

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973242, "author_name": "Gajendra Saraswat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T07:34:11.783000", "content": "
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Btw I feel like I'm overfitted but oh well, then I'll experience my first shakeup too :)

\n
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Are you in any case using any publicly available blends? Or you think you are overfitting due to your own subs?

", "votes": 0, "replies": [ { "id": 973295, "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T08:15:13.247000", "content": "

That suspicion was based on my cv lb difference

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973300, "author_name": "Gajendra Saraswat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T08:19:31.080000", "content": "

Okay, thanks for confirming! I tried one public blend with 0.9581 score on LB, I did make one sub by blending it with my sub, and I can tell you, it's awefully overfitting. So, in my consideration, All public blends are traps.

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Now, I have selected all the 3 submissions for final score from my own set. :/

", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973320, "author_name": "Ertuğrul Demir", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T08:39:21.357000", "content": "

Yeah go with your own work. I just got one new idea like 4 hours ago gave me 94 CV and 95 LB with single model, but I don't think there's much time left to improve it, I was planning to make that my last selection with couple different image sizes but whatever time issues…😄

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973323, "author_name": "Gajendra Saraswat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T08:42:44.400000", "content": "

Yeah, new ideas are coming to my mind daily, on the other hand, I utilized all my 5 submissions for today early in the morning, just after waking up. Excitement for the first competition is on a different level! 😄😄

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So I'm done for this competition now! :)

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 975764, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-18T13:08:31.080000", "content": "", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 973963, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-17T16:24:06.117000", "content": "", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 976481, "author_name": "Mohammad Shafique", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2020-08-18T22:14:38.873000", "content": "

Thanks and good luck.

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "972728": "Since competition coming close to the end I wish you all best of luck. Especially the people **work hard with honest approach** on their submissions. Hope you all end up at the rank where you deserve!\n\nIt was my first ongoing competition and learned a lot on the way, thanks to all who shared their experiences to the community. \n\nBtw I feel like I'm overfitted but oh well, then I'll experience my first shakeup too :)\n\nAnyways good luck all!", "972897": "In my first competition (Microsoft Malware 1.5 years ago), I dropped 1400 positions in a shakeup, so if you do better than that, you're starting Kaggle competitions better than I did. \n\nGood luck Ertugrul. I hope private leaderboard treats you well. Your analysis and models were very helpful.", "974032": "Good luck and fasten your seat belts for what is coming!\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F554091%2F796b34c79fc3aeeb06a3f2eaf06ee278%2Fturbulence.png?generation=1597679387584738&alt=media)", "973302": "Good luck @datafan07 :-) !\n\nI hope you will survive the shake-up or at least do not experience a bad break-down. I will never forget the shake-ups I experienced so far and that overfitting on the public LB is a very sweet but bad temptation. \n\nRegardless what will happen, never forget what you have learnt during the competition. This is the true reward one can obtain and which makes taking part in competitions such fruitful! Personally I learnt so much new stuff again that is helpful for my daily work, starting with new tools I tried out (like albumentations package), new coding stuff I learnt (like implementing multiclass focal loss) continuing with new concepts I often had in mind but never tried out so far (like stratification on the patients) and ideas on how to adapt to the test data based on EDA. \n\nIt was really a pleasure to take part in this competition even with my tiny little spare time I was able to contribute. This is definitely one of my favourite comps so far even though I still feel like in a score-lottery. ", "974026": "Good luck all and thanks to everyone who has contributed over the last few months.\n\nIt's my first competition (except for starter comps) and its been a fantastic experience. I was up to 50th position at one point but am now way out of the medals so at least I can sleep tonight without fear of the shake up!\n\nEchoing @mviola comments below, this competition has been a goldmine of learning opportunities and a real journey, including plenty of drama, from start to finish. From tomorrow I'm just going to do some gardening for a few days just to decompress!\n\nThanks again to all who have contributed to the discussion and the notebooks. See you all after the finish line.", "972781": "Hope you'll end in a nice place without any shake up, you deserve it!", "972732": "Thanks for your contribution in this comp as well. \nI like your kernels which have good scores without complexe blending & processing.", "973332": "Good luck everyone! \nAs a spectator, I still enjoyed reading the forum and seeing you all discussing augmentation techniques, finding leaks, setting up a solid CV strategy, and even estimating the shakeup! \nFor any future doubts, I am pretty sure I can come back here and read something because this competition is a gold mine of ideas. \nI hope you all can get the position you deserve with your honest approach, despite all the issues of solution sharing and public high scoring notebooks. \nI like to take one step at a time so I'll be playing around with the getting started competitions for a while, but one day I am sure I'll be here competing with you and fearing my first 2000 positions drop! \nHave a nice day (or night) and have a laugh if things don't go as you wanted, we are here to get better and better!", "974092": "Best of luck dear fellows. I guess there will be a lot of 3 digit movements ( +xxx / -xxx) in the private LB; might be that I am one of them. I am very interested in the outcome! ", "973978": "Good luck! Thanks for sharing two great notebook, learned a lot! \nI spent a lot of time in this competition, but stucked about two weeks, tried various methods, nothing worked.. Wondering if i can still get a medal.. Still a lot to be learned. 😃", "973975": "Good luck!\n(I have learnt a lot from you!)", "973692": "Thanks for the kind words, congratulations to everyone who was in the competition!", "973656": "Good luck and All the best everyone :) ", "973305": "same feeling here, been working on this comp for the past 2 months and half. Good luck to you as well !", "973243": "Congratulations, this is the first time I have done an image competition seriously, but it is really difficult to get a good result.", "972869": "I learned a lot from your kernels and I Hope you score well in the privateLB, Good Luck!!", "973004": "Wow. You are really doing pretty great in your first competition. This is my first competition too and I heard about data science 4 months ago :( . I have learnt a lot of things from this competition.Your notebooks were precious. Thanks a lot. Good luck. Godspeed", "972765": "@datafan07 Thank you for your wonderful notebook. Truly remarkable. Hopefully, we'll see the yellowish tier. It's a matter of time. ;) ", "972745": "High-scored kernels and blends of blends broke public LB, now only guys with perfect LB and CV can be confident and sleep well. \nI also feel myself overfitted as many others so we should just wait private LB and ask SHAKEUP for favour.\nYou worked hard and your kernels were very helpful, hope you will take good place, good luck!", "974893": "All the best to you..", "974672": "Good luck!", "974669": "Good luck to all!", "973242": "> Btw I feel like I'm overfitted but oh well, then I'll experience my first shakeup too :)\n\n\nAre you in any case using any publicly available blends? Or you think you are overfitting due to your own subs?", "975764": "", "973963": "", "976481": "Thanks and good luck." } }