{ "id": 173005, "title": "methods please and not submission ensembles", "url": "/competitions/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/173005", "author_name": "", "post_date": "2020-08-07T11:56:28.381987500Z", "votes": 7, "comment_count": 4, "views": 0, "content": "

To all those putting up final submission.csv and notebooks that have just ensembles of many csv's-
\nYou people seem really generous but if you want to do the real good thing, you should have revealed methods to try which gives actual learning. These acts just ruin the leader board and make the well deserved people go down :(
\nNo offence meant to anyone :)

", "messages": [ { "id": "961681", "postDate": "08/07/2020 11:56:28", "content": "

To all those putting up final submission.csv and notebooks that have just ensembles of many csv's-
\nYou people seem really generous but if you want to do the real good thing, you should have revealed methods to try which gives actual learning. These acts just ruin the leader board and make the well deserved people go down :(
\nNo offence meant to anyone :)

", "rawMarkdown": "To all those putting up final submission.csv and notebooks that have just ensembles of many csv's-\nYou people seem really generous but if you want to do the real good thing, you should have revealed methods to try which gives actual learning. These acts just ruin the leader board and make the well deserved people go down :(\nNo offence meant to anyone :)", "votes": null }, { "id": "961808", "postDate": "08/07/2020 14:13:32", "content": "

They are always doing that and then there is a shakeup and they are surprised what just happened.

", "rawMarkdown": "They are always doing that and then there is a shakeup and they are surprised what just happened.", "votes": null }, { "id": "961880", "postDate": "08/07/2020 15:26:16", "content": "

People who do that are in the business of chasing notebook medals. They don't care about what can be learnt from their work, they have no intention of helping you to make a progress -- all they need is your upvote. Personally, I do not like it but on Kaggle it seems to be just a fact of life which you can't fight. This will be happening as long as there is a significant number of participants willing to upvote this kind of work.

", "rawMarkdown": "People who do that are in the business of chasing notebook medals. They don't care about what can be learnt from their work, they have no intention of helping you to make a progress -- all they need is your upvote. Personally, I do not like it but on Kaggle it seems to be just a fact of life which you can't fight. This will be happening as long as there is a significant number of participants willing to upvote this kind of work.", "votes": null }, { "id": "962323", "postDate": "08/08/2020 03:50:12", "content": "

what you say seems to be sad but true :/

", "rawMarkdown": "what you say seems to be sad but true :/", "votes": null }, { "id": "963086", "postDate": "08/08/2020 16:48:40", "content": "

I really like this answer on the same topic:\n\"\"

", "rawMarkdown": "I really like this answer on the same topic:\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F5007869%2Fa7f743ea0976ceca260516695951f5a4%2FkSeJekf16Cc.jpg?generation=1596905319158317&alt=media)", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 961808, "author_name": "jacekpoplawski", "author_url": "", "post_date": "08/07/2020 14:13:32", "content": "

They are always doing that and then there is a shakeup and they are surprised what just happened.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 961880, "author_name": "graf10a", "author_url": "", "post_date": "08/07/2020 15:26:16", "content": "

People who do that are in the business of chasing notebook medals. They don't care about what can be learnt from their work, they have no intention of helping you to make a progress -- all they need is your upvote. Personally, I do not like it but on Kaggle it seems to be just a fact of life which you can't fight. This will be happening as long as there is a significant number of participants willing to upvote this kind of work.

", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 962323, "author_name": "prakashbaburaj", "author_url": "", "post_date": "08/08/2020 03:50:12", "content": "

what you say seems to be sad but true :/

", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 963086, "author_name": "vadimtimakin", "author_url": "", "post_date": "08/08/2020 16:48:40", "content": "

I really like this answer on the same topic:\n\"\"

", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "961681": "To all those putting up final submission.csv and notebooks that have just ensembles of many csv's-\nYou people seem really generous but if you want to do the real good thing, you should have revealed methods to try which gives actual learning. These acts just ruin the leader board and make the well deserved people go down :(\nNo offence meant to anyone :)", "961808": "They are always doing that and then there is a shakeup and they are surprised what just happened.", "961880": "People who do that are in the business of chasing notebook medals. They don't care about what can be learnt from their work, they have no intention of helping you to make a progress -- all they need is your upvote. Personally, I do not like it but on Kaggle it seems to be just a fact of life which you can't fight. This will be happening as long as there is a significant number of participants willing to upvote this kind of work.", "962323": "what you say seems to be sad but true :/", "963086": "I really like this answer on the same topic:\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F5007869%2Fa7f743ea0976ceca260516695951f5a4%2FkSeJekf16Cc.jpg?generation=1596905319158317&alt=media)" }, "source": "meta" }