{
  "id": 172302,
  "title": "Ensemble",
  "url": "/competitions/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/172302",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2020-08-04T14:11:19.676557100Z",
  "votes": 3,
  "comment_count": 4,
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  "content": "<p>what is the best way to have an auc value more than the input submission files?? \nI have already tried most of the ensemble processes in my files, though I am not getting a satisfying result. </p>",
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    {
      "id": "957725",
      "postDate": "08/04/2020 14:11:19",
      "content": "<p>what is the best way to have an auc value more than the input submission files?? \nI have already tried most of the ensemble processes in my files, though I am not getting a satisfying result. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "what is the best way to have an auc value more than the input submission files?? \nI have already tried most of the ensemble processes in my files, though I am not getting a satisfying result.",
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    {
      "id": "959407",
      "postDate": "08/05/2020 15:00:57",
      "content": "<p>Power average is the best I can think of, It would be better if all your submission files are from similar architecture with different seeds or different number of folds for better results.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Power average is the best I can think of, It would be better if all your submission files are from similar architecture with different seeds or different number of folds for better results.",
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    },
    {
      "id": "959475",
      "postDate": "08/05/2020 16:00:12",
      "content": "<p>You can check out <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/165653\">this topic</a> for discussion on that matter.</p>\n\n<p>In case you are not satisfied with the result, the reason might be not <strong>how</strong> you ensemble predictions but <strong>what</strong> are the predictions that you combine. Remember that there are two qualities necessary for a good ensemble: strength (how well your individual models perform) and diversity (how different are the models). The performance boost is to be expected only if both of these criteria are fulfilled.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "You can check out [this topic](https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/165653) for discussion on that matter.\n\nIn case you are not satisfied with the result, the reason might be not **how** you ensemble predictions but **what** are the predictions that you combine. Remember that there are two qualities necessary for a good ensemble: strength (how well your individual models perform) and diversity (how different are the models). The performance boost is to be expected only if both of these criteria are fulfilled.",
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    {
      "id": "959556",
      "postDate": "08/05/2020 17:31:19",
      "content": "<p>The way to ensemble is important I agree. But your choice of models is more important. \nYou need to take different models with good scores.\nTo see the correlation/difference, you can put the output targets in a DataFrame and use df.corr().</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The way to ensemble is important I agree. But your choice of models is more important. \nYou need to take different models with good scores.\nTo see the correlation/difference, you can put the output targets in a DataFrame and use df.corr().",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "959952",
      "postDate": "08/06/2020 03:56:40",
      "content": "<p>Thanks <a href=\"/kozodoi\">@kozodoi</a> I will concentrate on these things during ensembling. Truly helpful suggestion for me</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks @kozodoi I will concentrate on these things during ensembling. Truly helpful suggestion for me",
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      "id": 959407,
      "author_name": "bharatsahu",
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      "post_date": "08/05/2020 15:00:57",
      "content": "<p>Power average is the best I can think of, It would be better if all your submission files are from similar architecture with different seeds or different number of folds for better results.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 959475,
      "author_name": "kozodoi",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "08/05/2020 16:00:12",
      "content": "<p>You can check out <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/165653\">this topic</a> for discussion on that matter.</p>\n\n<p>In case you are not satisfied with the result, the reason might be not <strong>how</strong> you ensemble predictions but <strong>what</strong> are the predictions that you combine. Remember that there are two qualities necessary for a good ensemble: strength (how well your individual models perform) and diversity (how different are the models). The performance boost is to be expected only if both of these criteria are fulfilled.</p>",
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    {
      "id": 959556,
      "author_name": "vicioussong",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "08/05/2020 17:31:19",
      "content": "<p>The way to ensemble is important I agree. But your choice of models is more important. \nYou need to take different models with good scores.\nTo see the correlation/difference, you can put the output targets in a DataFrame and use df.corr().</p>",
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    {
      "id": 959952,
      "author_name": "ritachetadas",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "08/06/2020 03:56:40",
      "content": "<p>Thanks <a href=\"/kozodoi\">@kozodoi</a> I will concentrate on these things during ensembling. Truly helpful suggestion for me</p>",
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    "957725": "what is the best way to have an auc value more than the input submission files?? \nI have already tried most of the ensemble processes in my files, though I am not getting a satisfying result.",
    "959407": "Power average is the best I can think of, It would be better if all your submission files are from similar architecture with different seeds or different number of folds for better results.",
    "959475": "You can check out [this topic](https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/165653) for discussion on that matter.\n\nIn case you are not satisfied with the result, the reason might be not **how** you ensemble predictions but **what** are the predictions that you combine. Remember that there are two qualities necessary for a good ensemble: strength (how well your individual models perform) and diversity (how different are the models). The performance boost is to be expected only if both of these criteria are fulfilled.",
    "959556": "The way to ensemble is important I agree. But your choice of models is more important. \nYou need to take different models with good scores.\nTo see the correlation/difference, you can put the output targets in a DataFrame and use df.corr().",
    "959952": "Thanks @kozodoi I will concentrate on these things during ensembling. Truly helpful suggestion for me"
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