{
  "id": 253738,
  "title": "Are private datasets allowed in this competition?",
  "url": "/competitions/siim-covid19-detection/discussion/253738",
  "author_name": "Oleksandr Bohomolov",
  "post_date": "2021-07-18T11:09:14.298000",
  "votes": 1,
  "comment_count": 4,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>My team is doing image preprocessing in C#, so our idea is to run our preprocessing algorithm locally, upload the output to Kaggle datasets and use it in the competition. Is it allowed? Does this breach the rules of this competition?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 1392091,
      "postDate": "2021-07-18T11:09:14.297Z",
      "content": "<p>My team is doing image preprocessing in C#, so our idea is to run our preprocessing algorithm locally, upload the output to Kaggle datasets and use it in the competition. Is it allowed? Does this breach the rules of this competition?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "My team is doing image preprocessing in C#, so our idea is to run our preprocessing algorithm locally, upload the output to Kaggle datasets and use it in the competition. Is it allowed? Does this breach the rules of this competition?",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 1393413,
      "postDate": "2021-07-19T16:04:28.537Z",
      "content": "<p>Private Dataset is allowed. You can even train your model locally and upload it. The rule <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/josephhorton\" target=\"_blank\">@josephhorton</a> discussed is about external data. As long as your preprocessing doesn't use any data outside the competition, you are good to go.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Private Dataset is allowed. You can even train your model locally and upload it. The rule @josephhorton discussed is about external data. As long as your preprocessing doesn't use any data outside the competition, you are good to go.",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1393495,
          "postDate": "2021-07-19T17:29:51.920Z",
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        },
        {
          "id": 1393521,
          "postDate": "2021-07-19T17:46:52.990Z",
          "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Private Dataset is allowed.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>This is <strong>not an accurate statement</strong>. Any external data must be publicly and freely available (refer to the competition rules and Joseph's note below), and therefore private data is <strong>not permitted</strong>.</p>\n<p>You <em>are permitted</em> to train locally, but anything you train locally on must still be publicly and freely available.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "> Private Dataset is allowed.\n\nThis is **not an accurate statement**. Any external data must be publicly and freely available (refer to the competition rules and Joseph's note below), and therefore private data is **not permitted**.\n\nYou *are permitted* to train locally, but anything you train locally on must still be publicly and freely available."
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1392576,
      "postDate": "2021-07-18T20:27:54.223Z",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/alexbogomolov\" target=\"_blank\">@alexbogomolov</a>, you should be fine to use external data so long as it is publicly available and accessible at no cost.</p>\n<p>\"C. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants\".</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @alexbogomolov, you should be fine to use external data so long as it is publicly available and accessible at no cost.\n\n\"C. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants\"."
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1393413,
      "author_name": "Kumar Shubham",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-07-19T16:04:28.537000",
      "content": "<p>Private Dataset is allowed. You can even train your model locally and upload it. The rule <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/josephhorton\" target=\"_blank\">@josephhorton</a> discussed is about external data. As long as your preprocessing doesn't use any data outside the competition, you are good to go.</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1393495,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-07-19T17:29:51.920000",
          "content": "",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1393521,
          "author_name": "Julia Elliott",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-07-19T17:46:52.990000",
          "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Private Dataset is allowed.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>This is <strong>not an accurate statement</strong>. Any external data must be publicly and freely available (refer to the competition rules and Joseph's note below), and therefore private data is <strong>not permitted</strong>.</p>\n<p>You <em>are permitted</em> to train locally, but anything you train locally on must still be publicly and freely available.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1392576,
      "author_name": "Joseph Horton",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-07-18T20:27:54.223000",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/alexbogomolov\" target=\"_blank\">@alexbogomolov</a>, you should be fine to use external data so long as it is publicly available and accessible at no cost.</p>\n<p>\"C. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants\".</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "1392091": "My team is doing image preprocessing in C#, so our idea is to run our preprocessing algorithm locally, upload the output to Kaggle datasets and use it in the competition. Is it allowed? Does this breach the rules of this competition?",
    "1393413": "Private Dataset is allowed. You can even train your model locally and upload it. The rule @josephhorton discussed is about external data. As long as your preprocessing doesn't use any data outside the competition, you are good to go.",
    "1392576": "Hi @alexbogomolov, you should be fine to use external data so long as it is publicly available and accessible at no cost.\n\n\"C. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants\"."
  }
}