{
  "id": 239374,
  "title": "Google's new EfficientNetV2",
  "url": "/competitions/seti-breakthrough-listen/discussion/239374",
  "author_name": "Wei Hao Khoong",
  "post_date": "2021-05-16T03:32:55.432000",
  "votes": 18,
  "comment_count": 6,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Google has released their new <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/abs/2104.00298\" target=\"_blank\">EfficientNetV2</a>, with code and pretrained weights <a href=\"https://github.com/google/automl/tree/master/efficientnetv2\" target=\"_blank\">available</a>.</p>\n<p>Ross Wightman has also made available the model and weights to the <code>timm</code> <a href=\"https://github.com/rwightman/pytorch-image-models/blob/master/timm/models/efficientnet.py\" target=\"_blank\">library</a>.</p>\n<p>As the competition only started last week - one thing I've noticed thus far in my experiments, larger and more recent sota models like NFNet seems to perform rather well on CV and LB without augmentations.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 1309499,
      "postDate": "2021-05-16T03:32:55.433Z",
      "content": "<p>Google has released their new <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/abs/2104.00298\" target=\"_blank\">EfficientNetV2</a>, with code and pretrained weights <a href=\"https://github.com/google/automl/tree/master/efficientnetv2\" target=\"_blank\">available</a>.</p>\n<p>Ross Wightman has also made available the model and weights to the <code>timm</code> <a href=\"https://github.com/rwightman/pytorch-image-models/blob/master/timm/models/efficientnet.py\" target=\"_blank\">library</a>.</p>\n<p>As the competition only started last week - one thing I've noticed thus far in my experiments, larger and more recent sota models like NFNet seems to perform rather well on CV and LB without augmentations.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Google has released their new [EfficientNetV2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2104.00298), with code and pretrained weights [available](https://github.com/google/automl/tree/master/efficientnetv2).\n\nRoss Wightman has also made available the model and weights to the `timm` [library](https://github.com/rwightman/pytorch-image-models/blob/master/timm/models/efficientnet.py).\n\nAs the competition only started last week - one thing I've noticed thus far in my experiments, larger and more recent sota models like NFNet seems to perform rather well on CV and LB without augmentations.",
      "votes": 17
    },
    {
      "id": 1309507,
      "postDate": "2021-05-16T03:50:26.493Z",
      "content": "<p>For me, smaller models are working better than larger models and are much easier to train. I have tried efficientnet v2 b0 but still can not beat efficientnet_b0.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "For me, smaller models are working better than larger models and are much easier to train. I have tried efficientnet v2 b0 but still can not beat efficientnet_b0.",
      "votes": 5,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1309530,
          "postDate": "2021-05-16T04:23:39.787Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/snaker\" target=\"_blank\">@snaker</a> Interesting, thanks for the note. I'm facing worse performance on smaller models of the same type/class.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@snaker Interesting, thanks for the note. I'm facing worse performance on smaller models of the same type/class."
        },
        {
          "id": 1309656,
          "postDate": "2021-05-16T07:23:25.530Z",
          "content": "<p>Yes. I guess its not bigger models, but ratio between image size and depth of model. Like for image size 256*256 b0, b1 and b2 should work. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Yes. I guess its not bigger models, but ratio between image size and depth of model. Like for image size 256*256 b0, b1 and b2 should work. ",
          "votes": 8
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1313724,
      "postDate": "2021-05-18T17:17:38.450Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/khoongweihao\" target=\"_blank\">@khoongweihao</a> not only Nfnets perform better than Efficientnet , but they don't face memory overflow issues in contrast to efficientnets with almost same number of parameters and they are easily adaptable to larger batch and image sizes .</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@khoongweihao not only Nfnets perform better than Efficientnet , but they don't face memory overflow issues in contrast to efficientnets with almost same number of parameters and they are easily adaptable to larger batch and image sizes .",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1314654,
          "postDate": "2021-05-19T09:50:02.313Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sayedathar11Interesting\" target=\"_blank\">@sayedathar11Interesting</a>, thanks for pointing that out</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@sayedathar11Interesting, thanks for pointing that out"
        },
        {
          "id": 1314683,
          "postDate": "2021-05-19T10:12:00.790Z",
          "content": "<p>EfficientNetV1 was made primarily for TPU and in particular TF + TPU.</p>\n<p>But it seems they have <a href=\"https://twitter.com/tanmingxing/status/1393009264541634566\" target=\"_blank\">fix it</a> a bit on  GPU for V2 with TensorRT. </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "EfficientNetV1 was made primarily for TPU and in particular TF + TPU.\n\nBut it seems they have [fix it](https://twitter.com/tanmingxing/status/1393009264541634566) a bit on  GPU for V2 with TensorRT. ",
          "votes": 2
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1309507,
      "author_name": "Chenglu",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-05-16T03:50:26.493000",
      "content": "<p>For me, smaller models are working better than larger models and are much easier to train. I have tried efficientnet v2 b0 but still can not beat efficientnet_b0.</p>",
      "votes": 5,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1309530,
          "author_name": "Wei Hao Khoong",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-05-16T04:23:39.787000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/snaker\" target=\"_blank\">@snaker</a> Interesting, thanks for the note. I'm facing worse performance on smaller models of the same type/class.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1309656,
          "author_name": "Salman",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-05-16T07:23:25.530000",
          "content": "<p>Yes. I guess its not bigger models, but ratio between image size and depth of model. Like for image size 256*256 b0, b1 and b2 should work. </p>",
          "votes": 8,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1313724,
      "author_name": "Athar Sayed",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-05-18T17:17:38.450000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/khoongweihao\" target=\"_blank\">@khoongweihao</a> not only Nfnets perform better than Efficientnet , but they don't face memory overflow issues in contrast to efficientnets with almost same number of parameters and they are easily adaptable to larger batch and image sizes .</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1314654,
          "author_name": "Wei Hao Khoong",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-05-19T09:50:02.313000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sayedathar11Interesting\" target=\"_blank\">@sayedathar11Interesting</a>, thanks for pointing that out</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1314683,
          "author_name": "Serigne ",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2021-05-19T10:12:00.790000",
          "content": "<p>EfficientNetV1 was made primarily for TPU and in particular TF + TPU.</p>\n<p>But it seems they have <a href=\"https://twitter.com/tanmingxing/status/1393009264541634566\" target=\"_blank\">fix it</a> a bit on  GPU for V2 with TensorRT. </p>",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "1309499": "Google has released their new [EfficientNetV2](https://arxiv.org/abs/2104.00298), with code and pretrained weights [available](https://github.com/google/automl/tree/master/efficientnetv2).\n\nRoss Wightman has also made available the model and weights to the `timm` [library](https://github.com/rwightman/pytorch-image-models/blob/master/timm/models/efficientnet.py).\n\nAs the competition only started last week - one thing I've noticed thus far in my experiments, larger and more recent sota models like NFNet seems to perform rather well on CV and LB without augmentations.",
    "1309507": "For me, smaller models are working better than larger models and are much easier to train. I have tried efficientnet v2 b0 but still can not beat efficientnet_b0.",
    "1313724": "@khoongweihao not only Nfnets perform better than Efficientnet , but they don't face memory overflow issues in contrast to efficientnets with almost same number of parameters and they are easily adaptable to larger batch and image sizes ."
  }
}