{
  "id": 285345,
  "title": "Is thie Competition Resource intensive",
  "url": "/competitions/sartorius-cell-instance-segmentation/discussion/285345",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2021-11-04T10:08:40.477103900Z",
  "votes": 2,
  "comment_count": 6,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Hi,<br>\nCan any one tell based on so far experience is this competition needing lot of resources ?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "1570708",
      "postDate": "11/04/2021 10:08:40",
      "content": "<p>Hi,<br>\nCan any one tell based on so far experience is this competition needing lot of resources ?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi,\nCan any one tell based on so far experience is this competition needing lot of resources ?",
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    },
    {
      "id": "1570984",
      "postDate": "11/04/2021 14:24:27",
      "content": "<p>Very much so in my experience so far. I'm fortunate to own a high-end PC with a RTX3090 and still it can take a couple of hours to train a model, with close to 100% GPU utilization. That means if I wanted to do 5-fold cross validation it takes the whole day. I don't have a good idea how to approach experimenting with hyperparameters and different models.</p>\n<p>And that's on the competition dataset alone, where there are still the larger LIVCell and unsupervised datasets.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Very much so in my experience so far. I'm fortunate to own a high-end PC with a RTX3090 and still it can take a couple of hours to train a model, with close to 100% GPU utilization. That means if I wanted to do 5-fold cross validation it takes the whole day. I don't have a good idea how to approach experimenting with hyperparameters and different models.\n\nAnd that's on the competition dataset alone, where there are still the larger LIVCell and unsupervised datasets.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1570992",
      "postDate": "11/04/2021 14:33:28",
      "content": "<p>Same here. It takes 45 seconds for me train a single epoch (484 samples, 121 steps) mask r-cnn on RTX-3090.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Same here. It takes 45 seconds for me train a single epoch (484 samples, 121 steps) mask r-cnn on RTX-3090.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1571019",
      "postDate": "11/04/2021 14:43:21",
      "content": "<p>Using Detectron2 and Resnet101, on the Kaggle notebooks, a run of 40 epochs or so takes about 2 hours.</p>\n<p>Resnet50 is faster. Probably don't need 40 epochs for all tests.</p>\n<p>Overall, compared to some of the recent imaging competitions on CT images, this seems to be more manageable.</p>\n<p>-Rich</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Using Detectron2 and Resnet101, on the Kaggle notebooks, a run of 40 epochs or so takes about 2 hours.\n\nResnet50 is faster. Probably don't need 40 epochs for all tests.\n\nOverall, compared to some of the recent imaging competitions on CT images, this seems to be more manageable.\n\n-Rich",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1571036",
      "postDate": "11/04/2021 14:52:27",
      "content": "<p>Hey Rich!</p>\n<p>Do you have some tips for working with these large models? In my previous competitions so far I was always able to find approaches that took no longer than 15 minutes to train and my strategy was to try a lot of things until something worked. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hey Rich!\n\nDo you have some tips for working with these large models? In my previous competitions so far I was always able to find approaches that took no longer than 15 minutes to train and my strategy was to try a lot of things until something worked.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1571070",
      "postDate": "11/04/2021 15:17:06",
      "content": "<p>I don't have specific suggestions. I always worry that parameters that might work on a \"quick\" model, might not be good for a fully run model. But I note you are doing much better in this competition than I am, so you are doing something right!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I don't have specific suggestions. I always worry that parameters that might work on a \"quick\" model, might not be good for a fully run model. But I note you are doing much better in this competition than I am, so you are doing something right!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1571106",
      "postDate": "11/04/2021 15:50:49",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/slawekbiel\" target=\"_blank\">@slawekbiel</a> Using a subset of the data is usually helpful to try different models quickly.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "slawekbiel Using a subset of the data is usually helpful to try different models quickly.",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1570984,
      "author_name": "slawekbiel",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/04/2021 14:24:27",
      "content": "<p>Very much so in my experience so far. I'm fortunate to own a high-end PC with a RTX3090 and still it can take a couple of hours to train a model, with close to 100% GPU utilization. That means if I wanted to do 5-fold cross validation it takes the whole day. I don't have a good idea how to approach experimenting with hyperparameters and different models.</p>\n<p>And that's on the competition dataset alone, where there are still the larger LIVCell and unsupervised datasets.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1570992,
          "author_name": "gunesevitan",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/04/2021 14:33:28",
          "content": "<p>Same here. It takes 45 seconds for me train a single epoch (484 samples, 121 steps) mask r-cnn on RTX-3090.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1571106,
          "author_name": "tolgadincer",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/04/2021 15:50:49",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/slawekbiel\" target=\"_blank\">@slawekbiel</a> Using a subset of the data is usually helpful to try different models quickly.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1571019,
      "author_name": "richardepstein",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/04/2021 14:43:21",
      "content": "<p>Using Detectron2 and Resnet101, on the Kaggle notebooks, a run of 40 epochs or so takes about 2 hours.</p>\n<p>Resnet50 is faster. Probably don't need 40 epochs for all tests.</p>\n<p>Overall, compared to some of the recent imaging competitions on CT images, this seems to be more manageable.</p>\n<p>-Rich</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1571036,
          "author_name": "slawekbiel",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/04/2021 14:52:27",
          "content": "<p>Hey Rich!</p>\n<p>Do you have some tips for working with these large models? In my previous competitions so far I was always able to find approaches that took no longer than 15 minutes to train and my strategy was to try a lot of things until something worked. </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1571070,
          "author_name": "richardepstein",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/04/2021 15:17:06",
          "content": "<p>I don't have specific suggestions. I always worry that parameters that might work on a \"quick\" model, might not be good for a fully run model. But I note you are doing much better in this competition than I am, so you are doing something right!</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
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    "1570708": "Hi,\nCan any one tell based on so far experience is this competition needing lot of resources ?",
    "1570984": "Very much so in my experience so far. I'm fortunate to own a high-end PC with a RTX3090 and still it can take a couple of hours to train a model, with close to 100% GPU utilization. That means if I wanted to do 5-fold cross validation it takes the whole day. I don't have a good idea how to approach experimenting with hyperparameters and different models.\n\nAnd that's on the competition dataset alone, where there are still the larger LIVCell and unsupervised datasets.",
    "1570992": "Same here. It takes 45 seconds for me train a single epoch (484 samples, 121 steps) mask r-cnn on RTX-3090.",
    "1571019": "Using Detectron2 and Resnet101, on the Kaggle notebooks, a run of 40 epochs or so takes about 2 hours.\n\nResnet50 is faster. Probably don't need 40 epochs for all tests.\n\nOverall, compared to some of the recent imaging competitions on CT images, this seems to be more manageable.\n\n-Rich",
    "1571036": "Hey Rich!\n\nDo you have some tips for working with these large models? In my previous competitions so far I was always able to find approaches that took no longer than 15 minutes to train and my strategy was to try a lot of things until something worked.",
    "1571070": "I don't have specific suggestions. I always worry that parameters that might work on a \"quick\" model, might not be good for a fully run model. But I note you are doing much better in this competition than I am, so you are doing something right!",
    "1571106": "slawekbiel Using a subset of the data is usually helpful to try different models quickly."
  },
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}