Apologies, if this has been discussed elsewhere, but do we know if the images can be differentiated basis the cancer grade (Grade 1,2,3 or 4). As per my understanding the image for a Grade 1 cancer will be very different from a Grade 4 cancer. Earlier Grade cancers are likely to be mis-classified easily as well through the model. Would be great to know the thoughts of the community here.
\nReplaced stage with grade as per correction in comments by @reubenschmidt
", "messages": [ { "id": 1387774, "postDate": "2021-07-14T12:28:04.307Z", "content": "Apologies, if this has been discussed elsewhere, but do we know if the images can be differentiated basis the cancer grade (Grade 1,2,3 or 4). As per my understanding the image for a Grade 1 cancer will be very different from a Grade 4 cancer. Earlier Grade cancers are likely to be mis-classified easily as well through the model. Would be great to know the thoughts of the community here.
\nReplaced stage with grade as per correction in comments by @reubenschmidt
", "rawMarkdown": "Apologies, if this has been discussed elsewhere, but do we know if the images can be differentiated basis the cancer grade (Grade 1,2,3 or 4). As per my understanding the image for a Grade 1 cancer will be very different from a Grade 4 cancer. Earlier Grade cancers are likely to be mis-classified easily as well through the model. Would be great to know the thoughts of the community here.\n\n\n*Replaced stage with grade as per correction in comments by @reubenschmidt*", "votes": 6 }, { "id": 1388003, "postDate": "2021-07-14T15:19:18.527Z", "content": "We don't tend to talk about staging of brain cancers (see here). We do talk about grading them though. What we're looking at in this competition is glioblastoma, which is a Grade IV brain tumour. The 'grade' is a reflection of its rate of growth and agressiveness.
\nStaging of cancer strictly refers to its degree of spread. Stage 4 means distant metastasis (e.g. to bone from the prostate), and stage 1 to 3 refer to levels of spread intermediate to this.
\nFor interest's sake, glioblastoma very rarely metastasises outside of the brain (see this article).
", "rawMarkdown": "We don't tend to talk about staging of brain cancers (see [here](https://www.abta.org/tumor_types/glioblastoma-gbm/)). We do talk about grading them though. What we're looking at in this competition is glioblastoma, which is a Grade IV brain tumour. The 'grade' is a reflection of its rate of growth and agressiveness.\n\nStaging of cancer strictly refers to its degree of spread. Stage 4 means distant metastasis (e.g. to bone from the prostate), and stage 1 to 3 refer to levels of spread intermediate to this.\n\nFor interest's sake, glioblastoma very rarely metastasises outside of the brain (see [this article](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4231629/)).", "votes": 4, "replies": [ { "id": 1388086, "postDate": "2021-07-14T16:32:39.197Z", "content": "Thanks @reubenschmidt , this is very helpful!
", "rawMarkdown": "Thanks @reubenschmidt , this is very helpful!" } ] }, { "id": 1388383, "postDate": "2021-07-14T22:23:32.573Z", "content": "Brain cancers are typically measured in grades, where glioblastoma is exclusively grade IV.
", "rawMarkdown": "Brain cancers are typically measured in grades, where glioblastoma is exclusively grade IV.", "votes": 2 }, { "id": 1388427, "postDate": "2021-07-14T23:53:13.260Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": 2, "isDeleted": true } ], "comments": [ { "id": 1388003, "author_name": "Reuben Schmidt", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-07-14T15:19:18.527000", "content": "We don't tend to talk about staging of brain cancers (see here). We do talk about grading them though. What we're looking at in this competition is glioblastoma, which is a Grade IV brain tumour. The 'grade' is a reflection of its rate of growth and agressiveness.
\nStaging of cancer strictly refers to its degree of spread. Stage 4 means distant metastasis (e.g. to bone from the prostate), and stage 1 to 3 refer to levels of spread intermediate to this.
\nFor interest's sake, glioblastoma very rarely metastasises outside of the brain (see this article).
", "votes": 4, "replies": [ { "id": 1388086, "author_name": "Old Monk", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-07-14T16:32:39.197000", "content": "Thanks @reubenschmidt , this is very helpful!
", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1388383, "author_name": "Arianna Skirzynska", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-07-14T22:23:32.573000", "content": "Brain cancers are typically measured in grades, where glioblastoma is exclusively grade IV.
", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1388427, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-07-14T23:53:13.260000", "content": "", "votes": 2, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "1387774": "Apologies, if this has been discussed elsewhere, but do we know if the images can be differentiated basis the cancer grade (Grade 1,2,3 or 4). As per my understanding the image for a Grade 1 cancer will be very different from a Grade 4 cancer. Earlier Grade cancers are likely to be mis-classified easily as well through the model. Would be great to know the thoughts of the community here.\n\n\n*Replaced stage with grade as per correction in comments by @reubenschmidt*", "1388003": "We don't tend to talk about staging of brain cancers (see [here](https://www.abta.org/tumor_types/glioblastoma-gbm/)). We do talk about grading them though. What we're looking at in this competition is glioblastoma, which is a Grade IV brain tumour. The 'grade' is a reflection of its rate of growth and agressiveness.\n\nStaging of cancer strictly refers to its degree of spread. Stage 4 means distant metastasis (e.g. to bone from the prostate), and stage 1 to 3 refer to levels of spread intermediate to this.\n\nFor interest's sake, glioblastoma very rarely metastasises outside of the brain (see [this article](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4231629/)).", "1388383": "Brain cancers are typically measured in grades, where glioblastoma is exclusively grade IV.", "1388427": "" } }