{
  "id": 521360,
  "title": "Partial degenerative conditions validation results",
  "url": "/competitions/rsna-2024-lumbar-spine-degenerative-classification/discussion/521360",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-07-20T10:36:30.779930100Z",
  "votes": 5,
  "comment_count": 1,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I would group the conditions to the following:</p>\n<p>Group 1: Left Neural Foraminal Narrowing, Right Neural Foraminal Narrowing<br>\nGroup 2: Left Subarticular Stenosis, Right Subarticular Stenosis<br>\nGroup 3: Spinal Canal Stenosis</p>\n<p>Does anybody have wll results for these groups (any_severe excluded) on validaton set? What group is the easiest or hardest? For example 0.42 wll for group1 is good or bad?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2929755",
      "postDate": "07/20/2024 10:36:30",
      "content": "<p>I would group the conditions to the following:</p>\n<p>Group 1: Left Neural Foraminal Narrowing, Right Neural Foraminal Narrowing<br>\nGroup 2: Left Subarticular Stenosis, Right Subarticular Stenosis<br>\nGroup 3: Spinal Canal Stenosis</p>\n<p>Does anybody have wll results for these groups (any_severe excluded) on validaton set? What group is the easiest or hardest? For example 0.42 wll for group1 is good or bad?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I would group the conditions to the following:\n\nGroup 1: Left Neural Foraminal Narrowing, Right Neural Foraminal Narrowing\nGroup 2: Left Subarticular Stenosis, Right Subarticular Stenosis\nGroup 3: Spinal Canal Stenosis\n\nDoes anybody have wll results for these groups (any_severe excluded) on validaton set? What group is the easiest or hardest? For example 0.42 wll for group1 is good or bad?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2930229",
      "postDate": "07/20/2024 18:29:30",
      "content": "<p>This does not answer your question, but I wanted to leave this correlation/observation between series description and condition here:</p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>condition</th>\n<th>Axial T2</th>\n<th>Sagittal T1</th>\n<th>Sagittal T2/STIR</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Left Subarticular Stenosis</td>\n<td>9608</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>0</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Right Subarticular Stenosis</td>\n<td>9612</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>0</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Left Neural Foraminal Narrowing</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>9860</td>\n<td>0</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Right Neural Foraminal Narrowing</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>9859</td>\n<td>0</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Spinal Canal Stenosis</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>5</td>\n<td>9748</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<p>Each condition has a particular series to refer to. As for why there is a deviation with 5 Spinal Canal Stenosis with Sagittal T1, study_id: 3637444890 series_id: 3892989905, a <code>Sagittal T2/STIR</code> series, is of the cervical vertebra. See the discussion <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/rsna-2024-lumbar-spine-degenerative-classification/discussion/514891\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This does not answer your question, but I wanted to leave this correlation/observation between series description and condition here:\n| condition                        |   Axial T2 |   Sagittal T1 |   Sagittal T2/STIR |\n|:---------------------------------|-----------:|--------------:|-------------------:|\n| Left Subarticular Stenosis       |       9608 |             0 |                  0 |\n| Right Subarticular Stenosis      |       9612 |             0 |                  0 |\n| Left Neural Foraminal Narrowing  |          0 |          9860 |                  0 |\n| Right Neural Foraminal Narrowing |          0 |          9859 |                  0 |\n| Spinal Canal Stenosis            |          0 |             5 |               9748 |\n\nEach condition has a particular series to refer to. As for why there is a deviation with 5 Spinal Canal Stenosis with Sagittal T1, study_id: 3637444890 series_id: 3892989905, a `Sagittal T2/STIR` series, is of the cervical vertebra. See the discussion [here](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/rsna-2024-lumbar-spine-degenerative-classification/discussion/514891).",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2930229,
      "author_name": "coderrkj",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "07/20/2024 18:29:30",
      "content": "<p>This does not answer your question, but I wanted to leave this correlation/observation between series description and condition here:</p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>condition</th>\n<th>Axial T2</th>\n<th>Sagittal T1</th>\n<th>Sagittal T2/STIR</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Left Subarticular Stenosis</td>\n<td>9608</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>0</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Right Subarticular Stenosis</td>\n<td>9612</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>0</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Left Neural Foraminal Narrowing</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>9860</td>\n<td>0</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Right Neural Foraminal Narrowing</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>9859</td>\n<td>0</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Spinal Canal Stenosis</td>\n<td>0</td>\n<td>5</td>\n<td>9748</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<p>Each condition has a particular series to refer to. As for why there is a deviation with 5 Spinal Canal Stenosis with Sagittal T1, study_id: 3637444890 series_id: 3892989905, a <code>Sagittal T2/STIR</code> series, is of the cervical vertebra. See the discussion <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/rsna-2024-lumbar-spine-degenerative-classification/discussion/514891\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
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    "2929755": "I would group the conditions to the following:\n\nGroup 1: Left Neural Foraminal Narrowing, Right Neural Foraminal Narrowing\nGroup 2: Left Subarticular Stenosis, Right Subarticular Stenosis\nGroup 3: Spinal Canal Stenosis\n\nDoes anybody have wll results for these groups (any_severe excluded) on validaton set? What group is the easiest or hardest? For example 0.42 wll for group1 is good or bad?",
    "2930229": "This does not answer your question, but I wanted to leave this correlation/observation between series description and condition here:\n| condition                        |   Axial T2 |   Sagittal T1 |   Sagittal T2/STIR |\n|:---------------------------------|-----------:|--------------:|-------------------:|\n| Left Subarticular Stenosis       |       9608 |             0 |                  0 |\n| Right Subarticular Stenosis      |       9612 |             0 |                  0 |\n| Left Neural Foraminal Narrowing  |          0 |          9860 |                  0 |\n| Right Neural Foraminal Narrowing |          0 |          9859 |                  0 |\n| Spinal Canal Stenosis            |          0 |             5 |               9748 |\n\nEach condition has a particular series to refer to. As for why there is a deviation with 5 Spinal Canal Stenosis with Sagittal T1, study_id: 3637444890 series_id: 3892989905, a `Sagittal T2/STIR` series, is of the cervical vertebra. See the discussion [here](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/rsna-2024-lumbar-spine-degenerative-classification/discussion/514891)."
  },
  "source": "meta"
}