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Apparently there is a new feature that allows the creator of a notebook to turn off comments from other users.
\n
I am wondering what's the reason behind this choice?
\nIs there an announcement where I can read some motivations about that?
To me it looks like if someone wants to publish something controversial a) he/she can do it at any time (ignoring, for instance, the warning on publishing high scoring kernels), b) people won't be able to downvote (a long standing issue), c) (since a few months) people cannot even let others know what is wrong with the content of the notebook and dulcis in fundo d) I can upvote my work.
\nSo the worst that can happen it's to get only 1 upvote…
Apparently there is a new feature that allows the creator of a notebook to turn off comments from other users.
\n
I am wondering what's the reason behind this choice?
\nIs there an announcement where I can read some motivations about that?
To me it looks like if someone wants to publish something controversial a) he/she can do it at any time (ignoring, for instance, the warning on publishing high scoring kernels), b) people won't be able to downvote (a long standing issue), c) (since a few months) people cannot even let others know what is wrong with the content of the notebook and dulcis in fundo d) I can upvote my work.
\nSo the worst that can happen it's to get only 1 upvote…
Probably you are insinuating the new high scoring notebook… They turn off the comments because they know it's wrong but they still do it for their selfish goals! They will collect some sad upvotes but they lose the respect of the community.
", "rawMarkdown": "Probably you are insinuating the new high scoring notebook... They turn off the comments because they know it's wrong but they still do it for their selfish goals! They will collect some sad upvotes but they lose the respect of the community.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1127532", "postDate": "12/26/2020 16:04:10", "content": "63 forks, 5 upvotes ? 😄
", "rawMarkdown": "63 forks, 5 upvotes ? 😄", "votes": null }, { "id": "1127539", "postDate": "12/26/2020 16:10:37", "content": "I think it will get much more than that, especially the forks :))
", "rawMarkdown": "I think it will get much more than that, especially the forks :))", "votes": null }, { "id": "1127593", "postDate": "12/26/2020 17:03:29", "content": "What's the point of simply folking and committing? I want a downvote button
", "rawMarkdown": "What's the point of simply folking and committing? I want a downvote button", "votes": null }, { "id": "1127608", "postDate": "12/26/2020 17:16:43", "content": "I think Kaggle medals are a nice way to leverage once DS skill in a market that is more and more competitive…
\nBut indeed, not only the people doing that damage the global effect of those medals, but they don't help themselves as they will basically learn nothing from the competition for their own career… (and they might discourage people that worked hard to earn a bronze medal and get out of the ladder because of this…)
", "rawMarkdown": "I think Kaggle medals are a nice way to leverage once DS skill in a market that is more and more competitive...\n\nBut indeed, not only the people doing that damage the global effect of those medals, but they don't help themselves as they will basically learn nothing from the competition for their own career... (and they might discourage people that worked hard to earn a bronze medal and get out of the ladder because of this...)", "votes": null }, { "id": "1127618", "postDate": "12/26/2020 17:23:24", "content": "Do you really want those who are high or do kaggle with the spirit of learning and teaching to stop sharing their comments on public forum's? It's doesn't cause them any harm because they have capacity to be in top finishes whereas we who are learner's, learn from them and then use it at multiple places.
\nIt's a shame on such forkers and thanks to them for ruining the LB and the spirit to compete.
", "rawMarkdown": "Do you really want those who are high or do kaggle with the spirit of learning and teaching to stop sharing their comments on public forum's? It's doesn't cause them any harm because they have capacity to be in top finishes whereas we who are learner's, learn from them and then use it at multiple places.\n\nIt's a shame on such forkers and thanks to them for ruining the LB and the spirit to compete.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1127626", "postDate": "12/26/2020 17:30:05", "content": "It makes people who work hard feel worthless,Fortunately my feature engineering is not finished yet and I can continue to improve, so I am not too depressed.
\nAlthough I also want medal, But I think it is more enjoyable to learn something new.I didn't know much about neural networks before the competition, but now I can read same papers. Also the various ideas in the discussion board are very helpful.
\nI think this is the most valuable thing about kaggle rather than a bronze medal.
", "rawMarkdown": "It makes people who work hard feel worthless,Fortunately my feature engineering is not finished yet and I can continue to improve, so I am not too depressed.\n\nAlthough I also want medal, But I think it is more enjoyable to learn something new.I didn't know much about neural networks before the competition, but now I can read same papers. Also the various ideas in the discussion board are very helpful.\n\nI think this is the most valuable thing about kaggle rather than a bronze medal.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1130972", "postDate": "12/29/2020 13:11:02", "content": "For some guys who want upvotes, but don't wanna talk with others
", "rawMarkdown": "For some guys who want upvotes, but don't wanna talk with others", "votes": null }, { "id": "1132217", "postDate": "12/30/2020 08:38:21", "content": "We have worked hard for this competition for a long time, but because of the open notebook, our efforts have no value. Although we have learned knowledge, it is closely related to our profit, so I personally condemn this kind of behavior, which undermines fairness
", "rawMarkdown": "We have worked hard for this competition for a long time, but because of the open notebook, our efforts have no value. Although we have learned knowledge, it is closely related to our profit, so I personally condemn this kind of behavior, which undermines fairness", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 1127525, "author_name": "amiiiney", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/26/2020 15:58:40", "content": "Probably you are insinuating the new high scoring notebook… They turn off the comments because they know it's wrong but they still do it for their selfish goals! They will collect some sad upvotes but they lose the respect of the community.
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 1127532, "author_name": "bowaka", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/26/2020 16:04:10", "content": "63 forks, 5 upvotes ? 😄
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1127539, "author_name": "amiiiney", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/26/2020 16:10:37", "content": "I think it will get much more than that, especially the forks :))
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1127593, "author_name": "yangxiaoshuai", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/26/2020 17:03:29", "content": "What's the point of simply folking and committing? I want a downvote button
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 1127608, "author_name": "bowaka", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/26/2020 17:16:43", "content": "I think Kaggle medals are a nice way to leverage once DS skill in a market that is more and more competitive…
\nBut indeed, not only the people doing that damage the global effect of those medals, but they don't help themselves as they will basically learn nothing from the competition for their own career… (and they might discourage people that worked hard to earn a bronze medal and get out of the ladder because of this…)
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1127626, "author_name": "yangxiaoshuai", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/26/2020 17:30:05", "content": "It makes people who work hard feel worthless,Fortunately my feature engineering is not finished yet and I can continue to improve, so I am not too depressed.
\nAlthough I also want medal, But I think it is more enjoyable to learn something new.I didn't know much about neural networks before the competition, but now I can read same papers. Also the various ideas in the discussion board are very helpful.
\nI think this is the most valuable thing about kaggle rather than a bronze medal.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1127618, "author_name": "adityaecdrid", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/26/2020 17:23:24", "content": "Do you really want those who are high or do kaggle with the spirit of learning and teaching to stop sharing their comments on public forum's? It's doesn't cause them any harm because they have capacity to be in top finishes whereas we who are learner's, learn from them and then use it at multiple places.
\nIt's a shame on such forkers and thanks to them for ruining the LB and the spirit to compete.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1130972, "author_name": "res1235", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/29/2020 13:11:02", "content": "For some guys who want upvotes, but don't wanna talk with others
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1132217, "author_name": "hqsong", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/30/2020 08:38:21", "content": "We have worked hard for this competition for a long time, but because of the open notebook, our efforts have no value. Although we have learned knowledge, it is closely related to our profit, so I personally condemn this kind of behavior, which undermines fairness
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "1127428": "Apparently there is a new feature that allows the creator of a notebook to turn off comments from other users. \n\n\n\nI am wondering what's the reason behind this choice?\nIs there an announcement where I can read some motivations about that?\n\nTo me it looks like if someone wants to publish something controversial a) he/she can do it at any time (ignoring, for instance, the warning on publishing high scoring kernels), b) people won't be able to downvote (a long standing issue), c) (since a few months) people cannot even let others know what is wrong with the content of the notebook and _dulcis in fundo_ d) I can upvote my work. \nSo the worst that can happen it's to get only 1 upvote...", "1127525": "Probably you are insinuating the new high scoring notebook... They turn off the comments because they know it's wrong but they still do it for their selfish goals! They will collect some sad upvotes but they lose the respect of the community.", "1127532": "63 forks, 5 upvotes ? 😄", "1127539": "I think it will get much more than that, especially the forks :))", "1127593": "What's the point of simply folking and committing? I want a downvote button", "1127608": "I think Kaggle medals are a nice way to leverage once DS skill in a market that is more and more competitive...\n\nBut indeed, not only the people doing that damage the global effect of those medals, but they don't help themselves as they will basically learn nothing from the competition for their own career... (and they might discourage people that worked hard to earn a bronze medal and get out of the ladder because of this...)", "1127618": "Do you really want those who are high or do kaggle with the spirit of learning and teaching to stop sharing their comments on public forum's? It's doesn't cause them any harm because they have capacity to be in top finishes whereas we who are learner's, learn from them and then use it at multiple places.\n\nIt's a shame on such forkers and thanks to them for ruining the LB and the spirit to compete.", "1127626": "It makes people who work hard feel worthless,Fortunately my feature engineering is not finished yet and I can continue to improve, so I am not too depressed.\n\nAlthough I also want medal, But I think it is more enjoyable to learn something new.I didn't know much about neural networks before the competition, but now I can read same papers. Also the various ideas in the discussion board are very helpful.\n\nI think this is the most valuable thing about kaggle rather than a bronze medal.", "1130972": "For some guys who want upvotes, but don't wanna talk with others", "1132217": "We have worked hard for this competition for a long time, but because of the open notebook, our efforts have no value. Although we have learned knowledge, it is closely related to our profit, so I personally condemn this kind of behavior, which undermines fairness" }, "source": "meta" }