{
  "id": 110022,
  "title": "Accuracy not at all getting better",
  "url": "/competitions/recursion-cellular-image-classification/discussion/110022",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2019-09-24T08:10:50.933082200Z",
  "votes": 1,
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  "content": "<p>I have been trying this for a 2 weeks now, not too long but tried a bunch of different models and all models seem to be performing horribly. I seems to be nowhere compared to where i was 2 weeks ago.</p>\n\n<p>resnet34\nresnet50\ndensenet201\nefficientnetB4</p>\n\n<p>i split the data according to id_code and create a stratified split. for all 1108 classes. i use fastai custom head so that the head is 1108. I trained for 300 epochs to 400 epochs with different batch sizes in different runs. apart from heating my room for 2 weeks, the networks gave very poor LB scores like 0.05 or 0.07. </p>\n\n<p>what is the best way to create a good CV split ? CV improves to .7 but LB is like 0.005.  </p>",
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      "id": "632920",
      "postDate": "09/24/2019 08:10:50",
      "content": "<p>I have been trying this for a 2 weeks now, not too long but tried a bunch of different models and all models seem to be performing horribly. I seems to be nowhere compared to where i was 2 weeks ago.</p>\n\n<p>resnet34\nresnet50\ndensenet201\nefficientnetB4</p>\n\n<p>i split the data according to id_code and create a stratified split. for all 1108 classes. i use fastai custom head so that the head is 1108. I trained for 300 epochs to 400 epochs with different batch sizes in different runs. apart from heating my room for 2 weeks, the networks gave very poor LB scores like 0.05 or 0.07. </p>\n\n<p>what is the best way to create a good CV split ? CV improves to .7 but LB is like 0.005.  </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I have been trying this for a 2 weeks now, not too long but tried a bunch of different models and all models seem to be performing horribly. I seems to be nowhere compared to where i was 2 weeks ago.\n\nresnet34\nresnet50\ndensenet201\nefficientnetB4\n\ni split the data according to id_code and create a stratified split. for all 1108 classes. i use fastai custom head so that the head is 1108. I trained for 300 epochs to 400 epochs with different batch sizes in different runs. apart from heating my room for 2 weeks, the networks gave very poor LB scores like 0.05 or 0.07. \n\nwhat is the best way to create a good CV split ? CV improves to .7 but LB is like 0.005.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "632957",
      "postDate": "09/24/2019 08:56:11",
      "content": "<p>It has been discussed here. \n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/recursion-cellular-image-classification/discussion/98116\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/recursion-cellular-image-classification/discussion/98116</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It has been discussed here. \nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/recursion-cellular-image-classification/discussion/98116",
      "votes": null
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      "id": "632970",
      "postDate": "09/24/2019 09:11:42",
      "content": "<p>If you compare the test and training sets you'll see they have different experiments, so to be fair on your CV you should also use different experiments right?\nI've been using about 1/3 for for validation (3 folds)</p>\n\n<p>With proper hyper params and regularisation you should get to CV and LB 0.3 in only a few epochs (like 6?), no need to heat up your room! lol\nmaybe try higher lr and momentum ;)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "If you compare the test and training sets you'll see they have different experiments, so to be fair on your CV you should also use different experiments right?\nI've been using about 1/3 for for validation (3 folds)\n\nWith proper hyper params and regularisation you should get to CV and LB 0.3 in only a few epochs (like 6?), no need to heat up your room! lol\nmaybe try higher lr and momentum ;)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "633018",
      "postDate": "09/24/2019 10:50:53",
      "content": "<p>do you mean regularization on network architecture?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "do you mean regularization on network architecture?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "633252",
      "postDate": "09/24/2019 15:55:09",
      "content": "<p>yes, makes sense, will try this split. thank you very much for the help.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "yes, makes sense, will try this split. thank you very much for the help.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "633367",
      "postDate": "09/24/2019 20:14:24",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"/projdev\">@projdev</a> just weight decay and a bit of augmentation should be enough for LB 0.3, even without any submission tricks, or is your experience different?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "projdev just weight decay and a bit of augmentation should be enough for LB 0.3, even without any submission tricks, or is your experience different?",
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      "id": 632957,
      "author_name": "analokamus",
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      "post_date": "09/24/2019 08:56:11",
      "content": "<p>It has been discussed here. \n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/recursion-cellular-image-classification/discussion/98116\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/recursion-cellular-image-classification/discussion/98116</a></p>",
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      "id": 632970,
      "author_name": "hmendonca",
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      "post_date": "09/24/2019 09:11:42",
      "content": "<p>If you compare the test and training sets you'll see they have different experiments, so to be fair on your CV you should also use different experiments right?\nI've been using about 1/3 for for validation (3 folds)</p>\n\n<p>With proper hyper params and regularisation you should get to CV and LB 0.3 in only a few epochs (like 6?), no need to heat up your room! lol\nmaybe try higher lr and momentum ;)</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 633018,
          "author_name": "projdev",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "09/24/2019 10:50:53",
          "content": "<p>do you mean regularization on network architecture?</p>",
          "votes": null,
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          "id": 633252,
          "author_name": "darshansonde",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "09/24/2019 15:55:09",
          "content": "<p>yes, makes sense, will try this split. thank you very much for the help.</p>",
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          "id": 633367,
          "author_name": "hmendonca",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "09/24/2019 20:14:24",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/projdev\">@projdev</a> just weight decay and a bit of augmentation should be enough for LB 0.3, even without any submission tricks, or is your experience different?</p>",
          "votes": null,
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    "632920": "I have been trying this for a 2 weeks now, not too long but tried a bunch of different models and all models seem to be performing horribly. I seems to be nowhere compared to where i was 2 weeks ago.\n\nresnet34\nresnet50\ndensenet201\nefficientnetB4\n\ni split the data according to id_code and create a stratified split. for all 1108 classes. i use fastai custom head so that the head is 1108. I trained for 300 epochs to 400 epochs with different batch sizes in different runs. apart from heating my room for 2 weeks, the networks gave very poor LB scores like 0.05 or 0.07. \n\nwhat is the best way to create a good CV split ? CV improves to .7 but LB is like 0.005.",
    "632957": "It has been discussed here. \nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/recursion-cellular-image-classification/discussion/98116",
    "632970": "If you compare the test and training sets you'll see they have different experiments, so to be fair on your CV you should also use different experiments right?\nI've been using about 1/3 for for validation (3 folds)\n\nWith proper hyper params and regularisation you should get to CV and LB 0.3 in only a few epochs (like 6?), no need to heat up your room! lol\nmaybe try higher lr and momentum ;)",
    "633018": "do you mean regularization on network architecture?",
    "633252": "yes, makes sense, will try this split. thank you very much for the help.",
    "633367": "projdev just weight decay and a bit of augmentation should be enough for LB 0.3, even without any submission tricks, or is your experience different?"
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