{
  "id": 212692,
  "title": "Notebook sort order seems messed up",
  "url": "/competitions/ranzcr-clip-catheter-line-classification/discussion/212692",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2021-01-19T20:57:13.180495500Z",
  "votes": 9,
  "comment_count": 4,
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  "content": "<p>The sort options on Kaggle have never been perfect but lately they have seemed much more illogical than in the past. It is a little bit frustrating that I am needing to scroll through many zero vote notebooks just to find one I had read previously that has 50+ votes. I dont entirely understand why a 0 vote notebook would ever occur above a 50+ vote notebook regardless of post date, let alone many of them. </p>\n<p>Has the hotness algorithm changed recently or has it always been like that and we just have many more notebooks gumming up the algorithm now?</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1035002%2F019d0736bb23c20b691b32d719c9330d%2FScreenshot%20from%202021-01-19%2012-54-05.png?generation=1611089851591781&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
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    {
      "id": "1160346",
      "postDate": "01/19/2021 20:57:13",
      "content": "<p>The sort options on Kaggle have never been perfect but lately they have seemed much more illogical than in the past. It is a little bit frustrating that I am needing to scroll through many zero vote notebooks just to find one I had read previously that has 50+ votes. I dont entirely understand why a 0 vote notebook would ever occur above a 50+ vote notebook regardless of post date, let alone many of them. </p>\n<p>Has the hotness algorithm changed recently or has it always been like that and we just have many more notebooks gumming up the algorithm now?</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1035002%2F019d0736bb23c20b691b32d719c9330d%2FScreenshot%20from%202021-01-19%2012-54-05.png?generation=1611089851591781&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The sort options on Kaggle have never been perfect but lately they have seemed much more illogical than in the past. It is a little bit frustrating that I am needing to scroll through many zero vote notebooks just to find one I had read previously that has 50+ votes. I dont entirely understand why a 0 vote notebook would ever occur above a 50+ vote notebook regardless of post date, let alone many of them. \n\nHas the hotness algorithm changed recently or has it always been like that and we just have many more notebooks gumming up the algorithm now?\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1035002%2F019d0736bb23c20b691b32d719c9330d%2FScreenshot%20from%202021-01-19%2012-54-05.png?generation=1611089851591781&alt=media)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1161174",
      "postDate": "01/20/2021 11:47:14",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ryches\" target=\"_blank\">@ryches</a> I think the Hotness algorithm sorts the notebooks by the \"most recently posted\" principle. If two notebooks are posted at roughly the same time, the one with more upvotes will be placed above. But if a notebook has a lot of upvotes but was posted a long time ago, it will be placed somewhere in the bottom.</p>\n<p>So you'll have to sort by \"most votes\" to see the most popular notebooks. Same thing applies to Discussion.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "ryches I think the Hotness algorithm sorts the notebooks by the \"most recently posted\" principle. If two notebooks are posted at roughly the same time, the one with more upvotes will be placed above. But if a notebook has a lot of upvotes but was posted a long time ago, it will be placed somewhere in the bottom.\n\nSo you'll have to sort by \"most votes\" to see the most popular notebooks. Same thing applies to Discussion.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1162002",
      "postDate": "01/20/2021 22:29:43",
      "content": "<p>Yeah, that seems to be the case. I don't know that that is inline with the way most other sites sort by hotness though. It is particularly problematic because it seems like there are many copies of popular notebooks that come up and then supersede the original work. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yeah, that seems to be the case. I don't know that that is inline with the way most other sites sort by hotness though. It is particularly problematic because it seems like there are many copies of popular notebooks that come up and then supersede the original work.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1162476",
      "postDate": "01/21/2021 07:07:28",
      "content": "<p>Its been that way ever since I joined kaggle (I'm relatively new here), so I've just been sorting by votes or most recent. Have you contacted anyone from the Kaggle team about this? (maybe <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a> …or someone who is specifically responsible for this)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Its been that way ever since I joined kaggle (I'm relatively new here), so I've just been sorting by votes or most recent. Have you contacted anyone from the Kaggle team about this? (maybe @philculliton ...or someone who is specifically responsible for this)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1162516",
      "postDate": "01/21/2021 07:53:24",
      "content": "<p>Maybe this is how they intend for hotness to work. Not really a huge problem, I can just switch to top votes, but seems weird it works that way. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Maybe this is how they intend for hotness to work. Not really a huge problem, I can just switch to top votes, but seems weird it works that way.",
      "votes": null
    }
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1161174,
      "author_name": "indswetrust",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/20/2021 11:47:14",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ryches\" target=\"_blank\">@ryches</a> I think the Hotness algorithm sorts the notebooks by the \"most recently posted\" principle. If two notebooks are posted at roughly the same time, the one with more upvotes will be placed above. But if a notebook has a lot of upvotes but was posted a long time ago, it will be placed somewhere in the bottom.</p>\n<p>So you'll have to sort by \"most votes\" to see the most popular notebooks. Same thing applies to Discussion.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1162002,
          "author_name": "ryches",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "01/20/2021 22:29:43",
          "content": "<p>Yeah, that seems to be the case. I don't know that that is inline with the way most other sites sort by hotness though. It is particularly problematic because it seems like there are many copies of popular notebooks that come up and then supersede the original work. </p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 1162476,
          "author_name": "indswetrust",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "01/21/2021 07:07:28",
          "content": "<p>Its been that way ever since I joined kaggle (I'm relatively new here), so I've just been sorting by votes or most recent. Have you contacted anyone from the Kaggle team about this? (maybe <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a> …or someone who is specifically responsible for this)</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        },
        {
          "id": 1162516,
          "author_name": "ryches",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "01/21/2021 07:53:24",
          "content": "<p>Maybe this is how they intend for hotness to work. Not really a huge problem, I can just switch to top votes, but seems weird it works that way. </p>",
          "votes": null,
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    "1160346": "The sort options on Kaggle have never been perfect but lately they have seemed much more illogical than in the past. It is a little bit frustrating that I am needing to scroll through many zero vote notebooks just to find one I had read previously that has 50+ votes. I dont entirely understand why a 0 vote notebook would ever occur above a 50+ vote notebook regardless of post date, let alone many of them. \n\nHas the hotness algorithm changed recently or has it always been like that and we just have many more notebooks gumming up the algorithm now?\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F1035002%2F019d0736bb23c20b691b32d719c9330d%2FScreenshot%20from%202021-01-19%2012-54-05.png?generation=1611089851591781&alt=media)",
    "1161174": "ryches I think the Hotness algorithm sorts the notebooks by the \"most recently posted\" principle. If two notebooks are posted at roughly the same time, the one with more upvotes will be placed above. But if a notebook has a lot of upvotes but was posted a long time ago, it will be placed somewhere in the bottom.\n\nSo you'll have to sort by \"most votes\" to see the most popular notebooks. Same thing applies to Discussion.",
    "1162002": "Yeah, that seems to be the case. I don't know that that is inline with the way most other sites sort by hotness though. It is particularly problematic because it seems like there are many copies of popular notebooks that come up and then supersede the original work.",
    "1162476": "Its been that way ever since I joined kaggle (I'm relatively new here), so I've just been sorting by votes or most recent. Have you contacted anyone from the Kaggle team about this? (maybe @philculliton ...or someone who is specifically responsible for this)",
    "1162516": "Maybe this is how they intend for hotness to work. Not really a huge problem, I can just switch to top votes, but seems weird it works that way."
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