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  "id": 204776,
  "title": "let's try synthetic data?",
  "url": "/competitions/ranzcr-clip-catheter-line-classification/discussion/204776",
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  "post_date": "2020-12-16T18:30:22.499709Z",
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  "content": "<p><a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.07170v1.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.07170v1.pdf</a><br>\nEndotracheal Tube Detection and Segmentation in Chest Radiographs using Synthetic Data</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F314966d24678cff45c38ba97717cb156%2FSelection_042.png?generation=1608143377978583&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F46fcba1068fd4398be7a8222adc09120%2FSelection_041.png?generation=1608143396052476&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F1187ae70550e4e0ae625e8769c8275fd%2FSelection_040.png?generation=1608143420410735&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F595d4e23eb393058f4260f1ba05393b5%2FSelection_053.png?generation=1608149267894616&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><a href=\"https://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection</a></p>",
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      "postDate": "12/16/2020 18:30:22",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.07170v1.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.07170v1.pdf</a><br>\nEndotracheal Tube Detection and Segmentation in Chest Radiographs using Synthetic Data</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F314966d24678cff45c38ba97717cb156%2FSelection_042.png?generation=1608143377978583&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F46fcba1068fd4398be7a8222adc09120%2FSelection_041.png?generation=1608143396052476&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F1187ae70550e4e0ae625e8769c8275fd%2FSelection_040.png?generation=1608143420410735&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F595d4e23eb393058f4260f1ba05393b5%2FSelection_053.png?generation=1608149267894616&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><a href=\"https://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.07170v1.pdf\nEndotracheal Tube Detection and Segmentation in Chest Radiographs using Synthetic Data\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F314966d24678cff45c38ba97717cb156%2FSelection_042.png?generation=1608143377978583&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F46fcba1068fd4398be7a8222adc09120%2FSelection_041.png?generation=1608143396052476&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F1187ae70550e4e0ae625e8769c8275fd%2FSelection_040.png?generation=1608143420410735&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F595d4e23eb393058f4260f1ba05393b5%2FSelection_053.png?generation=1608149267894616&alt=media)\n\n\nhttps://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection",
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      "postDate": "12/16/2020 18:38:59",
      "content": "<p>Computer-Aided Assessment of Catheters and Tubes on Radiographs: How Good is Artificial Intelligence for Assessment?<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339164106_Computer-Aided_Assessment_of_Catheters_and_Tubes_on_Radiographs_How_Good_is_Artificial_Intelligence_for_Assessment\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339164106_Computer-Aided_Assessment_of_Catheters_and_Tubes_on_Radiographs_How_Good_is_Artificial_Intelligence_for_Assessment</a></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2Fb684b720a2af17301d3cafb0533e4e94%2FSelection_043.png?generation=1608143921881550&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F8ecbdad5d8749f1e214a6c81666d6a06%2FSelection_044.png?generation=1608143937314046&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Computer-Aided Assessment of Catheters and Tubes on Radiographs: How Good is Artificial Intelligence for Assessment?\nhttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/339164106_Computer-Aided_Assessment_of_Catheters_and_Tubes_on_Radiographs_How_Good_is_Artificial_Intelligence_for_Assessment\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2Fb684b720a2af17301d3cafb0533e4e94%2FSelection_043.png?generation=1608143921881550&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F8ecbdad5d8749f1e214a6c81666d6a06%2FSelection_044.png?generation=1608143937314046&alt=media)",
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      "id": "1116020",
      "postDate": "12/16/2020 18:47:56",
      "content": "<p>Accuracy of the 7-8-9 Rule for endotracheal tube placement in the neonate<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.nature.com/articles/7211503\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.nature.com/articles/7211503</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Accuracy of the 7-8-9 Rule for endotracheal tube placement in the neonate\nhttps://www.nature.com/articles/7211503",
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      "id": "1116027",
      "postDate": "12/16/2020 18:54:59",
      "content": "<p>PediatricXray100 dataset<br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray1\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray1</a></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F4b4fa5fd3167de0cf0c3e5e4e4900f11%2FSelection_045.png?generation=1608144897033962&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "PediatricXray100 dataset\nhttps://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray1\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F4b4fa5fd3167de0cf0c3e5e4e4900f11%2FSelection_045.png?generation=1608144897033962&alt=media)",
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      "id": "1116033",
      "postDate": "12/16/2020 19:10:32",
      "content": "<p>Deep Convolutional Neural Networks for Endotracheal Tube Position and X-ray Image Classification: Challenges and Opportunities<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/citation/28600640/Deep_Convolutional_Neural_Networks_for_Endotracheal_Tube_Position_and_X_ray_Image_Classification:_Challenges_and_Opportunities_\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/citation/28600640/Deep_Convolutional_Neural_Networks_for_Endotracheal_Tube_Position_and_X_ray_Image_Classification:_Challenges_and_Opportunities_</a></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2Fd839d3e999e4865d51d10abd436ff38e%2FSelection_046.png?generation=1608145809731213&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F5c4d5c4573ac8c40b61d57987aeee885%2FSelection_047.png?generation=1608145829261278&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Deep Convolutional Neural Networks for Endotracheal Tube Position and X-ray Image Classification: Challenges and Opportunities\nhttps://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/citation/28600640/Deep_Convolutional_Neural_Networks_for_Endotracheal_Tube_Position_and_X_ray_Image_Classification:_Challenges_and_Opportunities_\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2Fd839d3e999e4865d51d10abd436ff38e%2FSelection_046.png?generation=1608145809731213&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F5c4d5c4573ac8c40b61d57987aeee885%2FSelection_047.png?generation=1608145829261278&alt=media)",
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      "id": "1116035",
      "postDate": "12/16/2020 19:14:24",
      "content": "<p>how to read  Chest Radiology for  ET Tube Position</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwKwCARKYfw\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwKwCARKYfw</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "how to read  Chest Radiology for  ET Tube Position\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwKwCARKYfw",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": "1116047",
      "postDate": "12/16/2020 19:28:13",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/deep-learning-software-helps-to-locate-the-carina.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/deep-learning-software-helps-to-locate-the-carina.html</a><br>\n “Detecting Mal-Positioned Endotracheal Tubes in Portable Chest X-ray Images: Comparing Deep Learning Models with Hand-Engineered Approach on Carina Detection.”</p>\n<p>quote \" Using this metric on 212 test cases, they foundd the manual algorithm identified the position of the carina in about 74% of cases whereas for the deep learning approach it was 89%.\"</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/deep-learning-software-helps-to-locate-the-carina.html\n “Detecting Mal-Positioned Endotracheal Tubes in Portable Chest X-ray Images: Comparing Deep Learning Models with Hand-Engineered Approach on Carina Detection.”\n\nquote \" Using this metric on 212 test cases, they foundd the manual algorithm identified the position of the carina in about 74% of cases whereas for the deep learning approach it was 89%.\"",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1116083",
      "postDate": "12/16/2020 20:19:44",
      "content": "<p>Good to see that i am not alone who is already working in this way =)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Good to see that i am not alone who is already working in this way =)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1116086",
      "postDate": "12/16/2020 20:31:45",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Endotracheal Tube Detection and Segmentation in Chest Radiographs using Synthetic Data</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>i missed a little, did you suggest a stage where we do <strong>segmentation</strong> before <strong>classification</strong>?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "> Endotracheal Tube Detection and Segmentation in Chest Radiographs using Synthetic Data\n\ni missed a little, did you suggest a stage where we do **segmentation** before **classification**?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1116092",
      "postDate": "12/16/2020 20:42:04",
      "content": "<p>one possibilty:</p>\n<pre><code>encoder  \n   |---&gt;segemntation head\n   |---&gt;classification head\n</code></pre>\n<p>segmentation head is used only for training. it is to force the model to learn meaningfully encoding to improve generalisation. segmentation head can be removed at inference.<br>\n(e.g. mask-rcnn improves results of object detection compared to rcnn only)</p>\n<p>of course, there are other possible configurations:</p>\n<pre><code>encoder   ---&gt; segmentation head ---&gt;classification head\n</code></pre>\n<p>in this case classification uses results of segmentation. but has to be used in training and inference</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "one possibilty:\n\n```\nencoder  \n   |--->segemntation head\n   |--->classification head\n\n```\n\nsegmentation head is used only for training. it is to force the model to learn meaningfully encoding to improve generalisation. segmentation head can be removed at inference.\n(e.g. mask-rcnn improves results of object detection compared to rcnn only)\n\nof course, there are other possible configurations:\n\n```\nencoder   ---> segmentation head --->classification head\n\n```\n\nin this case classification uses results of segmentation. but has to be used in training and inference",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1119387",
      "postDate": "12/20/2020 02:12:35",
      "content": "<p>ETT-Net looks alike like U-NET with extra Upsamplings, Global Average Pooling.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "ETT-Net looks alike like U-NET with extra Upsamplings, Global Average Pooling.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1134160",
      "postDate": "12/31/2020 22:59:23",
      "content": "<p>Really glad to see that people have discovered our publications!</p>\n<p>BTW, the link to 100 pediatric X-rays with pixel wise annotation can be found here <a href=\"https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray100\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray100</a></p>\n<p>another link to a set of adult X-rays (~2000) with synthetic tubes (with corresponding masks) can be found here <br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection</a></p>\n<p>Hope these resources could help!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Really glad to see that people have discovered our publications!\n\nBTW, the link to 100 pediatric X-rays with pixel wise annotation can be found here https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray100\n\nanother link to a set of adult X-rays (~2000) with synthetic tubes (with corresponding masks) can be found here \nhttps://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection\n\nHope these resources could help!",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": 1116018,
      "author_name": "hengck23",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/16/2020 18:38:59",
      "content": "<p>Computer-Aided Assessment of Catheters and Tubes on Radiographs: How Good is Artificial Intelligence for Assessment?<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339164106_Computer-Aided_Assessment_of_Catheters_and_Tubes_on_Radiographs_How_Good_is_Artificial_Intelligence_for_Assessment\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339164106_Computer-Aided_Assessment_of_Catheters_and_Tubes_on_Radiographs_How_Good_is_Artificial_Intelligence_for_Assessment</a></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2Fb684b720a2af17301d3cafb0533e4e94%2FSelection_043.png?generation=1608143921881550&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F8ecbdad5d8749f1e214a6c81666d6a06%2FSelection_044.png?generation=1608143937314046&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
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          "id": 1116020,
          "author_name": "hengck23",
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          "post_date": "12/16/2020 18:47:56",
          "content": "<p>Accuracy of the 7-8-9 Rule for endotracheal tube placement in the neonate<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.nature.com/articles/7211503\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.nature.com/articles/7211503</a></p>",
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    {
      "id": 1116027,
      "author_name": "hengck23",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/16/2020 18:54:59",
      "content": "<p>PediatricXray100 dataset<br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray1\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray1</a></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F4b4fa5fd3167de0cf0c3e5e4e4900f11%2FSelection_045.png?generation=1608144897033962&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
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    {
      "id": 1116033,
      "author_name": "hengck23",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/16/2020 19:10:32",
      "content": "<p>Deep Convolutional Neural Networks for Endotracheal Tube Position and X-ray Image Classification: Challenges and Opportunities<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/citation/28600640/Deep_Convolutional_Neural_Networks_for_Endotracheal_Tube_Position_and_X_ray_Image_Classification:_Challenges_and_Opportunities_\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/citation/28600640/Deep_Convolutional_Neural_Networks_for_Endotracheal_Tube_Position_and_X_ray_Image_Classification:_Challenges_and_Opportunities_</a></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2Fd839d3e999e4865d51d10abd436ff38e%2FSelection_046.png?generation=1608145809731213&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F5c4d5c4573ac8c40b61d57987aeee885%2FSelection_047.png?generation=1608145829261278&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
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      "id": 1116035,
      "author_name": "hengck23",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/16/2020 19:14:24",
      "content": "<p>how to read  Chest Radiology for  ET Tube Position</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwKwCARKYfw\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwKwCARKYfw</a></p>",
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      "id": 1116047,
      "author_name": "hengck23",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/16/2020 19:28:13",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/deep-learning-software-helps-to-locate-the-carina.html\" target=\"_blank\">https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/deep-learning-software-helps-to-locate-the-carina.html</a><br>\n “Detecting Mal-Positioned Endotracheal Tubes in Portable Chest X-ray Images: Comparing Deep Learning Models with Hand-Engineered Approach on Carina Detection.”</p>\n<p>quote \" Using this metric on 212 test cases, they foundd the manual algorithm identified the position of the carina in about 74% of cases whereas for the deep learning approach it was 89%.\"</p>",
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    {
      "id": 1116083,
      "author_name": "sandorkonya",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/16/2020 20:19:44",
      "content": "<p>Good to see that i am not alone who is already working in this way =)</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1116086,
      "author_name": "hiramcho",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/16/2020 20:31:45",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Endotracheal Tube Detection and Segmentation in Chest Radiographs using Synthetic Data</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>i missed a little, did you suggest a stage where we do <strong>segmentation</strong> before <strong>classification</strong>?</p>",
      "votes": null,
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        {
          "id": 1116092,
          "author_name": "hengck23",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "12/16/2020 20:42:04",
          "content": "<p>one possibilty:</p>\n<pre><code>encoder  \n   |---&gt;segemntation head\n   |---&gt;classification head\n</code></pre>\n<p>segmentation head is used only for training. it is to force the model to learn meaningfully encoding to improve generalisation. segmentation head can be removed at inference.<br>\n(e.g. mask-rcnn improves results of object detection compared to rcnn only)</p>\n<p>of course, there are other possible configurations:</p>\n<pre><code>encoder   ---&gt; segmentation head ---&gt;classification head\n</code></pre>\n<p>in this case classification uses results of segmentation. but has to be used in training and inference</p>",
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    },
    {
      "id": 1119387,
      "author_name": "alincijov",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/20/2020 02:12:35",
      "content": "<p>ETT-Net looks alike like U-NET with extra Upsamplings, Global Average Pooling.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1134160,
      "author_name": "xinario",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/31/2020 22:59:23",
      "content": "<p>Really glad to see that people have discovered our publications!</p>\n<p>BTW, the link to 100 pediatric X-rays with pixel wise annotation can be found here <a href=\"https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray100\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray100</a></p>\n<p>another link to a set of adult X-rays (~2000) with synthetic tubes (with corresponding masks) can be found here <br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection\" target=\"_blank\">https://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection</a></p>\n<p>Hope these resources could help!</p>",
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    "1116007": "https://arxiv.org/pdf/1908.07170v1.pdf\nEndotracheal Tube Detection and Segmentation in Chest Radiographs using Synthetic Data\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F314966d24678cff45c38ba97717cb156%2FSelection_042.png?generation=1608143377978583&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F46fcba1068fd4398be7a8222adc09120%2FSelection_041.png?generation=1608143396052476&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F1187ae70550e4e0ae625e8769c8275fd%2FSelection_040.png?generation=1608143420410735&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F595d4e23eb393058f4260f1ba05393b5%2FSelection_053.png?generation=1608149267894616&alt=media)\n\n\nhttps://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection",
    "1116018": "Computer-Aided Assessment of Catheters and Tubes on Radiographs: How Good is Artificial Intelligence for Assessment?\nhttps://www.researchgate.net/publication/339164106_Computer-Aided_Assessment_of_Catheters_and_Tubes_on_Radiographs_How_Good_is_Artificial_Intelligence_for_Assessment\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2Fb684b720a2af17301d3cafb0533e4e94%2FSelection_043.png?generation=1608143921881550&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F8ecbdad5d8749f1e214a6c81666d6a06%2FSelection_044.png?generation=1608143937314046&alt=media)",
    "1116020": "Accuracy of the 7-8-9 Rule for endotracheal tube placement in the neonate\nhttps://www.nature.com/articles/7211503",
    "1116027": "PediatricXray100 dataset\nhttps://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray1\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F4b4fa5fd3167de0cf0c3e5e4e4900f11%2FSelection_045.png?generation=1608144897033962&alt=media)",
    "1116033": "Deep Convolutional Neural Networks for Endotracheal Tube Position and X-ray Image Classification: Challenges and Opportunities\nhttps://www.unboundmedicine.com/medline/citation/28600640/Deep_Convolutional_Neural_Networks_for_Endotracheal_Tube_Position_and_X_ray_Image_Classification:_Challenges_and_Opportunities_\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2Fd839d3e999e4865d51d10abd436ff38e%2FSelection_046.png?generation=1608145809731213&alt=media)\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F113660%2F5c4d5c4573ac8c40b61d57987aeee885%2FSelection_047.png?generation=1608145829261278&alt=media)",
    "1116035": "how to read  Chest Radiology for  ET Tube Position\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwKwCARKYfw",
    "1116047": "https://healthcare-in-europe.com/en/news/deep-learning-software-helps-to-locate-the-carina.html\n “Detecting Mal-Positioned Endotracheal Tubes in Portable Chest X-ray Images: Comparing Deep Learning Models with Hand-Engineered Approach on Carina Detection.”\n\nquote \" Using this metric on 212 test cases, they foundd the manual algorithm identified the position of the carina in about 74% of cases whereas for the deep learning approach it was 89%.\"",
    "1116083": "Good to see that i am not alone who is already working in this way =)",
    "1116086": "> Endotracheal Tube Detection and Segmentation in Chest Radiographs using Synthetic Data\n\ni missed a little, did you suggest a stage where we do **segmentation** before **classification**?",
    "1116092": "one possibilty:\n\n```\nencoder  \n   |--->segemntation head\n   |--->classification head\n\n```\n\nsegmentation head is used only for training. it is to force the model to learn meaningfully encoding to improve generalisation. segmentation head can be removed at inference.\n(e.g. mask-rcnn improves results of object detection compared to rcnn only)\n\nof course, there are other possible configurations:\n\n```\nencoder   ---> segmentation head --->classification head\n\n```\n\nin this case classification uses results of segmentation. but has to be used in training and inference",
    "1119387": "ETT-Net looks alike like U-NET with extra Upsamplings, Global Average Pooling.",
    "1134160": "Really glad to see that people have discovered our publications!\n\nBTW, the link to 100 pediatric X-rays with pixel wise annotation can be found here https://github.com/xinario/PediatricXray100\n\nanother link to a set of adult X-rays (~2000) with synthetic tubes (with corresponding masks) can be found here \nhttps://github.com/xinario/catheter_detection\n\nHope these resources could help!"
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