{
  "id": 423860,
  "title": "Efficiency LB has been updated with the private scores",
  "url": "/competitions/predict-student-performance-from-game-play/discussion/423860",
  "author_name": "Oleksiy Kononenko",
  "post_date": "2023-07-11T19:39:22.716000",
  "votes": 5,
  "comment_count": 9,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>It seems that <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/philculliton/student-performance-efficiency-leaderboard/\" target=\"_blank\">the Efficiency LB </a> has been finally updated with the private scores.</p>\n<p>However, there is still one issue: LB includes some late submissions. Those can be easily tracked from the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/kononenko/psp-efficiency-lb-sanity-check\" target=\"_blank\">psp-efficiency-lb-sanity-check</a> notebook.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a> could you please take a look? Thanks in advance.</p>\n<p><strong>UPD:</strong> The issue has been promptly fixed by the Kaggle team.</p>",
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    {
      "id": 2340972,
      "postDate": "2023-07-11T19:39:22.717Z",
      "content": "<p>It seems that <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/philculliton/student-performance-efficiency-leaderboard/\" target=\"_blank\">the Efficiency LB </a> has been finally updated with the private scores.</p>\n<p>However, there is still one issue: LB includes some late submissions. Those can be easily tracked from the <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/kononenko/psp-efficiency-lb-sanity-check\" target=\"_blank\">psp-efficiency-lb-sanity-check</a> notebook.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a> could you please take a look? Thanks in advance.</p>\n<p><strong>UPD:</strong> The issue has been promptly fixed by the Kaggle team.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It seems that [the Efficiency LB ](https://www.kaggle.com/code/philculliton/student-performance-efficiency-leaderboard/) has been finally updated with the private scores.\n\nHowever, there is still one issue: LB includes some late submissions. Those can be easily tracked from the [psp-efficiency-lb-sanity-check](https://www.kaggle.com/code/kononenko/psp-efficiency-lb-sanity-check) notebook.\n\n@philculliton could you please take a look? Thanks in advance.\n\n**UPD:** The issue has been promptly fixed by the Kaggle team.",
      "votes": 5
    },
    {
      "id": 2340977,
      "postDate": "2023-07-11T19:45:13.003Z",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kononenko\" target=\"_blank\">@kononenko</a> Thank you, we're looking into it right now!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "@kononenko Thank you, we're looking into it right now!",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2340992,
          "postDate": "2023-07-11T19:53:46.283Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a>, great, thanks for the quick follow-up!</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@philculliton, great, thanks for the quick follow-up!",
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2341028,
              "postDate": "2023-07-11T20:15:25.973Z",
              "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kononenko\" target=\"_blank\">@kononenko</a> Sure, thank you for the report! There was a minor glitch in the efficiency LB calculation, it's been updated and appears to be corrected.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "@kononenko Sure, thank you for the report! There was a minor glitch in the efficiency LB calculation, it's been updated and appears to be corrected.",
              "votes": 2
            },
            {
              "id": 2341043,
              "postDate": "2023-07-11T20:25:19.763Z",
              "content": "<p>Yep, no late submissions anymore 👍</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Yep, no late submissions anymore 👍"
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2341000,
      "postDate": "2023-07-11T19:58:41.240Z",
      "content": "<p>I am new to Kaggle competitions, I am wondering whether if there is medals also for the efficiency leaderboard or no, anybody have a clue? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I am new to Kaggle competitions, I am wondering whether if there is medals also for the efficiency leaderboard or no, anybody have a clue? ",
      "votes": 1,
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        {
          "id": 2341052,
          "postDate": "2023-07-11T20:30:35.540Z",
          "content": "<p>What I saw was a <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/predict-student-performance-from-game-play/discussion/384541\" target=\"_blank\">proposition</a> to award efficiency medals. It was greatly supported by the community, but not sure there was any official response.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a> may be you could comment on that? Thanks again.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "What I saw was a [proposition](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/predict-student-performance-from-game-play/discussion/384541) to award efficiency medals. It was greatly supported by the community, but not sure there was any official response.\n\n@philculliton may be you could comment on that? Thanks again.",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2341122,
              "postDate": "2023-07-11T21:39:05.383Z",
              "content": "<p>Hi! We don't currently have the infrastructure to award medals based on efficiency LBs. That's a great suggestion, though, and while they currently are separate secondary leaderboards, we'll continue to pursue formats where the main leaderboard metric incorporates more than just accuracy!</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Hi! We don't currently have the infrastructure to award medals based on efficiency LBs. That's a great suggestion, though, and while they currently are separate secondary leaderboards, we'll continue to pursue formats where the main leaderboard metric incorporates more than just accuracy!",
              "votes": 2
            }
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        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2341182,
      "postDate": "2023-07-11T23:41:01.073Z",
      "content": "<p>I'm sorry for being annoying, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a>, but I've just tried to figure out what is the value of <code>Benchmark</code> in <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/predict-student-performance-from-game-play/overview/efficiency-prize-evaluation\" target=\"_blank\">the efficiency formula</a> and it feels like it is not constant per submission.</p>\n<pre><code> + lb/(lb - lb/)\n</code></pre>\n<pre><code>      -\n       \n       \n       \n       \n          ...   \n    \n    \n    \n    \n    \nLength: , dtype: float64\n</code></pre>\n<p>Am I missing something?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm sorry for being annoying, @philculliton, but I've just tried to figure out what is the value of `Benchmark` in [the efficiency formula](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/predict-student-performance-from-game-play/overview/efficiency-prize-evaluation) and it feels like it is not constant per submission.\n\n```\n0.705 + lb[\"PrivateScore\"]/(lb[\"EfficiencyScore\"] - lb[\"ScoringTime\"]/32400)\n```\n\n```\n0      -0.000113\n1       0.000021\n2       0.000101\n3       0.000730\n4       0.000350\n          ...   \n2013    0.705000\n2014    0.000807\n2015    0.000574\n2016    0.000462\n2017    0.000254\nLength: 2018, dtype: float64\n```\n\nAm I missing something?",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2341283,
          "postDate": "2023-07-12T02:29:16.247Z",
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2340977,
      "author_name": "Phil Culliton",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-07-11T19:45:13.003000",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kononenko\" target=\"_blank\">@kononenko</a> Thank you, we're looking into it right now!</p>",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2340992,
          "author_name": "Oleksiy Kononenko",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-07-11T19:53:46.283000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a>, great, thanks for the quick follow-up!</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2341028,
              "author_name": "Phil Culliton",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-07-11T20:15:25.973000",
              "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kononenko\" target=\"_blank\">@kononenko</a> Sure, thank you for the report! There was a minor glitch in the efficiency LB calculation, it's been updated and appears to be corrected.</p>",
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              "id": 2341043,
              "author_name": "Oleksiy Kononenko",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-07-11T20:25:19.763000",
              "content": "<p>Yep, no late submissions anymore 👍</p>",
              "votes": 0,
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          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2341000,
      "author_name": "Belal Emad",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-07-11T19:58:41.240000",
      "content": "<p>I am new to Kaggle competitions, I am wondering whether if there is medals also for the efficiency leaderboard or no, anybody have a clue? </p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2341052,
          "author_name": "Oleksiy Kononenko",
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          "post_date": "2023-07-11T20:30:35.540000",
          "content": "<p>What I saw was a <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/predict-student-performance-from-game-play/discussion/384541\" target=\"_blank\">proposition</a> to award efficiency medals. It was greatly supported by the community, but not sure there was any official response.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a> may be you could comment on that? Thanks again.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2341122,
              "author_name": "Phil Culliton",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-07-11T21:39:05.383000",
              "content": "<p>Hi! We don't currently have the infrastructure to award medals based on efficiency LBs. That's a great suggestion, though, and while they currently are separate secondary leaderboards, we'll continue to pursue formats where the main leaderboard metric incorporates more than just accuracy!</p>",
              "votes": 2,
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      "id": 2341182,
      "author_name": "Oleksiy Kononenko",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-07-11T23:41:01.073000",
      "content": "<p>I'm sorry for being annoying, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a>, but I've just tried to figure out what is the value of <code>Benchmark</code> in <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/predict-student-performance-from-game-play/overview/efficiency-prize-evaluation\" target=\"_blank\">the efficiency formula</a> and it feels like it is not constant per submission.</p>\n<pre><code> + lb/(lb - lb/)\n</code></pre>\n<pre><code>      -\n       \n       \n       \n       \n          ...   \n    \n    \n    \n    \n    \nLength: , dtype: float64\n</code></pre>\n<p>Am I missing something?</p>",
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    "2340972": "It seems that [the Efficiency LB ](https://www.kaggle.com/code/philculliton/student-performance-efficiency-leaderboard/) has been finally updated with the private scores.\n\nHowever, there is still one issue: LB includes some late submissions. Those can be easily tracked from the [psp-efficiency-lb-sanity-check](https://www.kaggle.com/code/kononenko/psp-efficiency-lb-sanity-check) notebook.\n\n@philculliton could you please take a look? Thanks in advance.\n\n**UPD:** The issue has been promptly fixed by the Kaggle team.",
    "2340977": "@kononenko Thank you, we're looking into it right now!",
    "2341000": "I am new to Kaggle competitions, I am wondering whether if there is medals also for the efficiency leaderboard or no, anybody have a clue? ",
    "2341182": "I'm sorry for being annoying, @philculliton, but I've just tried to figure out what is the value of `Benchmark` in [the efficiency formula](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/predict-student-performance-from-game-play/overview/efficiency-prize-evaluation) and it feels like it is not constant per submission.\n\n```\n0.705 + lb[\"PrivateScore\"]/(lb[\"EfficiencyScore\"] - lb[\"ScoringTime\"]/32400)\n```\n\n```\n0      -0.000113\n1       0.000021\n2       0.000101\n3       0.000730\n4       0.000350\n          ...   \n2013    0.705000\n2014    0.000807\n2015    0.000574\n2016    0.000462\n2017    0.000254\nLength: 2018, dtype: float64\n```\n\nAm I missing something?"
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