{
  "id": 420110,
  "title": "The longest journey. Congrats to stable CV - LB frameworks",
  "url": "/competitions/predict-student-performance-from-game-play/discussion/420110",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2023-06-29T08:23:57.187621800Z",
  "votes": 15,
  "comment_count": 7,
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  "content": "<p>Congratulations to all teams who have managed to establish a stable cv-lb framework. We haven't, and we fell from 3 public to 34 private. </p>\n<p>It was especially tricky in this competition for us, because models which were better on CV and public LB, were actually worse on private LB. </p>\n<p>Once again an old Kaggle truth returns, that the most important aspect of every competition is to have a valid way of testing which model will survive the shakeup.</p>\n<p>See you next time.</p>",
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    {
      "id": "2322355",
      "postDate": "06/29/2023 08:23:57",
      "content": "<p>Congratulations to all teams who have managed to establish a stable cv-lb framework. We haven't, and we fell from 3 public to 34 private. </p>\n<p>It was especially tricky in this competition for us, because models which were better on CV and public LB, were actually worse on private LB. </p>\n<p>Once again an old Kaggle truth returns, that the most important aspect of every competition is to have a valid way of testing which model will survive the shakeup.</p>\n<p>See you next time.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Congratulations to all teams who have managed to establish a stable cv-lb framework. We haven't, and we fell from 3 public to 34 private. \n\nIt was especially tricky in this competition for us, because models which were better on CV and public LB, were actually worse on private LB. \n\nOnce again an old Kaggle truth returns, that the most important aspect of every competition is to have a valid way of testing which model will survive the shakeup.\n\nSee you next time.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2322403",
      "postDate": "06/29/2023 09:02:04",
      "content": "<p>I feel sorry for seeing this. The shakeup is much larger than we expected. 2 of our 3 subs are potentially out of gold as well…</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I feel sorry for seeing this. The shakeup is much larger than we expected. 2 of our 3 subs are potentially out of gold as well...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2322436",
      "postDate": "06/29/2023 09:30:04",
      "content": "<p>Thank you, but don't be. As weird as it will sound under the circumstances, I actually enjoy this part of Kaggle. It reminds me of real-life modeling and production-level systems. where non-stationarity over time is one of the main enemies.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thank you, but don't be. As weird as it will sound under the circumstances, I actually enjoy this part of Kaggle. It reminds me of real-life modeling and production-level systems. where non-stationarity over time is one of the main enemies.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2322620",
      "postDate": "06/29/2023 11:36:34",
      "content": "<p>It is always hard to drop on private. Competitions with a lot of competitors with scores that differ on the third decimal are especially challenging. Keep up the good work. You had a nice team. Kagglers from Poland are becoming famous :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It is always hard to drop on private. Competitions with a lot of competitors with scores that differ on the third decimal are especially challenging. Keep up the good work. You had a nice team. Kagglers from Poland are becoming famous :)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2322622",
      "postDate": "06/29/2023 11:37:21",
      "content": "<p>Shakeup is always painful, but the lessons learned while experimenting and competing are ultimately what's valued over time. Congrats on great performance throughout, and see you in the next one!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Shakeup is always painful, but the lessons learned while experimenting and competing are ultimately what's valued over time. Congrats on great performance throughout, and see you in the next one!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2322648",
      "postDate": "06/29/2023 12:07:22",
      "content": "<p>Thanks. The team was actually the best part of it - I could not thank them anough. Below is our picture from our Kaggle meetup in Polanica Zdroj - this was the moment when we merged and started sharing ideas.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F494641%2Fae113758ff34ddaa75fcc73af7fc3e08%2FIMG_3242.jpg?generation=1688040373438203&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks. The team was actually the best part of it - I could not thank them anough. Below is our picture from our Kaggle meetup in Polanica Zdroj - this was the moment when we merged and started sharing ideas.\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F494641%2Fae113758ff34ddaa75fcc73af7fc3e08%2FIMG_3242.jpg?generation=1688040373438203&alt=media)",
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    },
    {
      "id": "2322650",
      "postDate": "06/29/2023 12:08:18",
      "content": "<p>True. Thanks for some consolation Darek :) </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "True. Thanks for some consolation Darek :)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2322727",
      "postDate": "06/29/2023 13:05:20",
      "content": "<p>This is awesome! This is reminds me of kaggling with <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/amedprof\" target=\"_blank\">@amedprof</a>.</p>\n<p>Familiar faces. Winners of Kaggle Days Paris 🔥</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This is awesome! This is reminds me of kaggling with @amedprof.\n\nFamiliar faces. Winners of Kaggle Days Paris 🔥",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2322403,
      "author_name": "kingychiu",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "06/29/2023 09:02:04",
      "content": "<p>I feel sorry for seeing this. The shakeup is much larger than we expected. 2 of our 3 subs are potentially out of gold as well…</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2322436,
          "author_name": "narsil",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "06/29/2023 09:30:04",
          "content": "<p>Thank you, but don't be. As weird as it will sound under the circumstances, I actually enjoy this part of Kaggle. It reminds me of real-life modeling and production-level systems. where non-stationarity over time is one of the main enemies.</p>",
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    },
    {
      "id": 2322620,
      "author_name": "crodoc",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "06/29/2023 11:36:34",
      "content": "<p>It is always hard to drop on private. Competitions with a lot of competitors with scores that differ on the third decimal are especially challenging. Keep up the good work. You had a nice team. Kagglers from Poland are becoming famous :)</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2322648,
          "author_name": "narsil",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "06/29/2023 12:07:22",
          "content": "<p>Thanks. The team was actually the best part of it - I could not thank them anough. Below is our picture from our Kaggle meetup in Polanica Zdroj - this was the moment when we merged and started sharing ideas.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F494641%2Fae113758ff34ddaa75fcc73af7fc3e08%2FIMG_3242.jpg?generation=1688040373438203&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
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          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2322727,
              "author_name": "crodoc",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "06/29/2023 13:05:20",
              "content": "<p>This is awesome! This is reminds me of kaggling with <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/amedprof\" target=\"_blank\">@amedprof</a>.</p>\n<p>Familiar faces. Winners of Kaggle Days Paris 🔥</p>",
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      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2322622,
      "author_name": "thedrcat",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "06/29/2023 11:37:21",
      "content": "<p>Shakeup is always painful, but the lessons learned while experimenting and competing are ultimately what's valued over time. Congrats on great performance throughout, and see you in the next one!</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2322650,
          "author_name": "narsil",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "06/29/2023 12:08:18",
          "content": "<p>True. Thanks for some consolation Darek :) </p>",
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    "2322355": "Congratulations to all teams who have managed to establish a stable cv-lb framework. We haven't, and we fell from 3 public to 34 private. \n\nIt was especially tricky in this competition for us, because models which were better on CV and public LB, were actually worse on private LB. \n\nOnce again an old Kaggle truth returns, that the most important aspect of every competition is to have a valid way of testing which model will survive the shakeup.\n\nSee you next time.",
    "2322403": "I feel sorry for seeing this. The shakeup is much larger than we expected. 2 of our 3 subs are potentially out of gold as well...",
    "2322436": "Thank you, but don't be. As weird as it will sound under the circumstances, I actually enjoy this part of Kaggle. It reminds me of real-life modeling and production-level systems. where non-stationarity over time is one of the main enemies.",
    "2322620": "It is always hard to drop on private. Competitions with a lot of competitors with scores that differ on the third decimal are especially challenging. Keep up the good work. You had a nice team. Kagglers from Poland are becoming famous :)",
    "2322622": "Shakeup is always painful, but the lessons learned while experimenting and competing are ultimately what's valued over time. Congrats on great performance throughout, and see you in the next one!",
    "2322648": "Thanks. The team was actually the best part of it - I could not thank them anough. Below is our picture from our Kaggle meetup in Polanica Zdroj - this was the moment when we merged and started sharing ideas.\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F494641%2Fae113758ff34ddaa75fcc73af7fc3e08%2FIMG_3242.jpg?generation=1688040373438203&alt=media)",
    "2322650": "True. Thanks for some consolation Darek :)",
    "2322727": "This is awesome! This is reminds me of kaggling with @amedprof.\n\nFamiliar faces. Winners of Kaggle Days Paris 🔥"
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