{
  "id": 43149,
  "title": "Eligibility of us-based entity with non-us employees",
  "url": "/competitions/passenger-screening-algorithm-challenge/discussion/43149",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2017-11-10T10:34:40.708302900Z",
  "votes": null,
  "comment_count": 4,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Consider the us-based company with principal place of business in US. This company has employees which are located outside USA. </p>\n\n<p>Could this company be eligible for prizes as entity in this competition if non-us employees of this company develop the solution? If yes, what to do if these non-us employees have their own kaggle account?</p>\n\n<p>Thanks a lot.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "241993",
      "postDate": "11/10/2017 10:34:40",
      "content": "<p>Consider the us-based company with principal place of business in US. This company has employees which are located outside USA. </p>\n\n<p>Could this company be eligible for prizes as entity in this competition if non-us employees of this company develop the solution? If yes, what to do if these non-us employees have their own kaggle account?</p>\n\n<p>Thanks a lot.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Consider the us-based company with principal place of business in US. This company has employees which are located outside USA. \n\nCould this company be eligible for prizes as entity in this competition if non-us employees of this company develop the solution? If yes, what to do if these non-us employees have their own kaggle account?\n\nThanks a lot.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "242610",
      "postDate": "11/12/2017 05:40:34",
      "content": "<p>Since nobody in a position to give you an official answer has spoken up (I'm certainly not in that kind of position, keep in mind): as long as the only people who \"officially\" enter are US citizens, there shouldn't be a problem unless you mention that ineligible people worked on it.  Look at it like this: what you do with the money after you win is your business; give it to whoever you like.</p>\n\n<p>How Kaggle or the Department of Homeland Security would view that \"loophole,\" I can't really comment on though.  For the record, if any member of a team is ineligible, the <em>entire team is ineligible.</em></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Since nobody in a position to give you an official answer has spoken up (I'm certainly not in that kind of position, keep in mind): as long as the only people who \"officially\" enter are US citizens, there shouldn't be a problem unless you mention that ineligible people worked on it.  Look at it like this: what you do with the money after you win is your business; give it to whoever you like.\n\nHow Kaggle or the Department of Homeland Security would view that \"loophole,\" I can't really comment on though.  For the record, if any member of a team is ineligible, the *entire team is ineligible.*",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "242714",
      "postDate": "11/12/2017 12:32:14",
      "content": "<p>The main detail is that there are \"individuals\" and \"entity\". Team could be consist only of all us-based individuals or us-based entity. If this entity registers its kaggle account, who is allowed to be behind this account? And how to handle case when the \"workers\" have their own Kaggle account?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The main detail is that there are \"individuals\" and \"entity\". Team could be consist only of all us-based individuals or us-based entity. If this entity registers its kaggle account, who is allowed to be behind this account? And how to handle case when the \"workers\" have their own Kaggle account?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "242717",
      "postDate": "11/12/2017 12:39:04",
      "content": "<p>Well, I think it's fair to say that if ineligible parties contributed work, you run the risk of being disqualified whether they're part of your official Kaggle team or not.  It may seem unfair, but the funds for this competition are meant for US citizens alone (it's taxpayer money being spent to promote the U.S. tech sector, I believe), and both Kaggle and the DHS have administrative power to disqualify entries as they deem fit.  Given that we're talking about 7 figures here, I'd expect a pretty thorough inspection, but I can't give you an official answer.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Well, I think it's fair to say that if ineligible parties contributed work, you run the risk of being disqualified whether they're part of your official Kaggle team or not.  It may seem unfair, but the funds for this competition are meant for US citizens alone (it's taxpayer money being spent to promote the U.S. tech sector, I believe), and both Kaggle and the DHS have administrative power to disqualify entries as they deem fit.  Given that we're talking about 7 figures here, I'd expect a pretty thorough inspection, but I can't give you an official answer.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "242720",
      "postDate": "11/12/2017 12:41:44",
      "content": "<p>Dont forget the funds are meant also for us-based entities (who pay a lot of taxes), and this is where I need some clarifications.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Dont forget the funds are meant also for us-based entities (who pay a lot of taxes), and this is where I need some clarifications.",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 242610,
      "author_name": "mmiron",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/12/2017 05:40:34",
      "content": "<p>Since nobody in a position to give you an official answer has spoken up (I'm certainly not in that kind of position, keep in mind): as long as the only people who \"officially\" enter are US citizens, there shouldn't be a problem unless you mention that ineligible people worked on it.  Look at it like this: what you do with the money after you win is your business; give it to whoever you like.</p>\n\n<p>How Kaggle or the Department of Homeland Security would view that \"loophole,\" I can't really comment on though.  For the record, if any member of a team is ineligible, the <em>entire team is ineligible.</em></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 242714,
          "author_name": "wolhow123",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/12/2017 12:32:14",
          "content": "<p>The main detail is that there are \"individuals\" and \"entity\". Team could be consist only of all us-based individuals or us-based entity. If this entity registers its kaggle account, who is allowed to be behind this account? And how to handle case when the \"workers\" have their own Kaggle account?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 242717,
          "author_name": "mmiron",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/12/2017 12:39:04",
          "content": "<p>Well, I think it's fair to say that if ineligible parties contributed work, you run the risk of being disqualified whether they're part of your official Kaggle team or not.  It may seem unfair, but the funds for this competition are meant for US citizens alone (it's taxpayer money being spent to promote the U.S. tech sector, I believe), and both Kaggle and the DHS have administrative power to disqualify entries as they deem fit.  Given that we're talking about 7 figures here, I'd expect a pretty thorough inspection, but I can't give you an official answer.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 242720,
          "author_name": "wolhow123",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/12/2017 12:41:44",
          "content": "<p>Dont forget the funds are meant also for us-based entities (who pay a lot of taxes), and this is where I need some clarifications.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "241993": "Consider the us-based company with principal place of business in US. This company has employees which are located outside USA. \n\nCould this company be eligible for prizes as entity in this competition if non-us employees of this company develop the solution? If yes, what to do if these non-us employees have their own kaggle account?\n\nThanks a lot.",
    "242610": "Since nobody in a position to give you an official answer has spoken up (I'm certainly not in that kind of position, keep in mind): as long as the only people who \"officially\" enter are US citizens, there shouldn't be a problem unless you mention that ineligible people worked on it.  Look at it like this: what you do with the money after you win is your business; give it to whoever you like.\n\nHow Kaggle or the Department of Homeland Security would view that \"loophole,\" I can't really comment on though.  For the record, if any member of a team is ineligible, the *entire team is ineligible.*",
    "242714": "The main detail is that there are \"individuals\" and \"entity\". Team could be consist only of all us-based individuals or us-based entity. If this entity registers its kaggle account, who is allowed to be behind this account? And how to handle case when the \"workers\" have their own Kaggle account?",
    "242717": "Well, I think it's fair to say that if ineligible parties contributed work, you run the risk of being disqualified whether they're part of your official Kaggle team or not.  It may seem unfair, but the funds for this competition are meant for US citizens alone (it's taxpayer money being spent to promote the U.S. tech sector, I believe), and both Kaggle and the DHS have administrative power to disqualify entries as they deem fit.  Given that we're talking about 7 figures here, I'd expect a pretty thorough inspection, but I can't give you an official answer.",
    "242720": "Dont forget the funds are meant also for us-based entities (who pay a lot of taxes), and this is where I need some clarifications."
  },
  "source": "meta"
}