{
  "id": 380783,
  "title": "Be careful of deadline teamup",
  "url": "/competitions/otto-recommender-system/discussion/380783",
  "author_name": "senkin13",
  "post_date": "2023-01-24T06:06:09.705000",
  "votes": 35,
  "comment_count": 12,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Today is merge deadline, teamup is a fast way to improve score and can learn from each other,but there are lots of painful lessons in past competitions that merged with cheaters be banned, be careful to teamup the people who you don't know even he is grandmaster/master,if you already merged,make sure it is his solution.Good luck to everyone!</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 2113178,
      "postDate": "2023-01-24T06:06:09.707Z",
      "content": "<p>Today is merge deadline, teamup is a fast way to improve score and can learn from each other,but there are lots of painful lessons in past competitions that merged with cheaters be banned, be careful to teamup the people who you don't know even he is grandmaster/master,if you already merged,make sure it is his solution.Good luck to everyone!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Today is merge deadline, teamup is a fast way to improve score and can learn from each other,but there are lots of painful lessons in past competitions that merged with cheaters be banned, be careful to teamup the people who you don't know even he is grandmaster/master,if you already merged,make sure it is his solution.Good luck to everyone!",
      "votes": 35
    },
    {
      "id": 2114461,
      "postDate": "2023-01-25T02:14:01.860Z",
      "content": "<p>I've heard one of suspicious guy said these</p>\n<ul>\n<li>\"Oh my laptop was broken, so can't share my codes\"</li>\n<li>\"Oh I'm writing paper regarding this solution, so I can't share my solution\" <br>\nVery funny 😂</li>\n</ul>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I've heard one of suspicious guy said these\n- \"Oh my laptop was broken, so can't share my codes\"\n- \"Oh I'm writing paper regarding this solution, so I can't share my solution\" \nVery funny 😂",
      "votes": 15
    },
    {
      "id": 2114078,
      "postDate": "2023-01-24T17:49:38.717Z",
      "content": "<p>Be careful about the \"Multi-Route Fighting\", for example player A in Team B, he gives the code/submission/idea of B to player C, and C use this to team up with other players. A and C still send his team's code/submission/idea to each other until the competition end, and the other guys are totally innocent.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Be careful about the \"Multi-Route Fighting\", for example player A in Team B, he gives the code/submission/idea of B to player C, and C use this to team up with other players. A and C still send his team's code/submission/idea to each other until the competition end, and the other guys are totally innocent.",
      "votes": 9,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2114451,
          "postDate": "2023-01-25T02:02:21.693Z",
          "content": "<p>kaggle need to improve their cheating detection because I saw they do it again and again never be banned</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "kaggle need to improve their cheating detection because I saw they do it again and again never be banned",
          "votes": 7
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2114473,
      "postDate": "2023-01-25T02:48:45.090Z",
      "content": "<p>I wonder if code verification made compulsory for all gold solutions, can help in this ? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I wonder if code verification made compulsory for all gold solutions, can help in this ? ",
      "votes": 5,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2115169,
          "postDate": "2023-01-25T14:38:02.357Z",
          "content": "<p>Even with verification, unless you really dig into the codebase, it's difficult to detect private sharing. Sometimes people share functions without bothering to change anything though.</p>\n<p>People suddenly jumping to high ranks while others have spent weeks grinding the 0.001 improvements are easy to detect however, but that does not necessarily imply cheating.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Even with verification, unless you really dig into the codebase, it's difficult to detect private sharing. Sometimes people share functions without bothering to change anything though.\n\nPeople suddenly jumping to high ranks while others have spent weeks grinding the 0.001 improvements are easy to detect however, but that does not necessarily imply cheating.",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2115182,
              "postDate": "2023-01-25T14:46:41.067Z",
              "content": "<p>Agreed, especially wrt the last part :D. But also enforcing something, will make people fear before doing things like this, and the number reduce hopefully.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Agreed, especially wrt the last part :D. But also enforcing something, will make people fear before doing things like this, and the number reduce hopefully.",
              "votes": 3
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2113221,
      "postDate": "2023-01-24T06:40:40.817Z",
      "content": "<p>I heard some folks are removed from past competitions because they share their notebooks/datasets a couple days before merging. Be careful with that too. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I heard some folks are removed from past competitions because they share their notebooks/datasets a couple days before merging. Be careful with that too. ",
      "votes": 4
    },
    {
      "id": 2115469,
      "postDate": "2023-01-25T19:36:31.933Z",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for the suggestion. Are there any guidelines or recommendations about how to team up in Kaggle competitions? I know this is like asking how to know who would be a good team mate but I am sure people have pointers or red flags that could work as a first check list :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for the suggestion. Are there any guidelines or recommendations about how to team up in Kaggle competitions? I know this is like asking how to know who would be a good team mate but I am sure people have pointers or red flags that could work as a first check list :)",
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2115839,
          "postDate": "2023-01-26T01:51:51.510Z",
          "content": "<p>I think it's a good idea.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I think it's a good idea."
        },
        {
          "id": 2115893,
          "postDate": "2023-01-26T03:55:01.803Z",
          "content": "<p>I thinks most of kagglers can be trusted.To avoid merging with cheaters,I suggest teamup with people that you are familiar. If you teamup with unknow people,profile check is important, some cheaters register kaggle just before competition end.But only profile check is not enough,make sure he is really active in competition,like submit for many days, wish to discuss or share public code.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I thinks most of kagglers can be trusted.To avoid merging with cheaters,I suggest teamup with people that you are familiar. If you teamup with unknow people,profile check is important, some cheaters register kaggle just before competition end.But only profile check is not enough,make sure he is really active in competition,like submit for many days, wish to discuss or share public code.",
          "votes": 5,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2120134,
              "postDate": "2023-01-29T11:37:25.237Z",
              "content": "<p>Collaborate with people you know well 🤛</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Collaborate with people you know well 🤛"
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2114496,
      "postDate": "2023-01-25T03:09:32.810Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "isDeleted": true
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2114461,
      "author_name": "ONODERA",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-01-25T02:14:01.860000",
      "content": "<p>I've heard one of suspicious guy said these</p>\n<ul>\n<li>\"Oh my laptop was broken, so can't share my codes\"</li>\n<li>\"Oh I'm writing paper regarding this solution, so I can't share my solution\" <br>\nVery funny 😂</li>\n</ul>",
      "votes": 15,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2114078,
      "author_name": "qyxs",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-01-24T17:49:38.717000",
      "content": "<p>Be careful about the \"Multi-Route Fighting\", for example player A in Team B, he gives the code/submission/idea of B to player C, and C use this to team up with other players. A and C still send his team's code/submission/idea to each other until the competition end, and the other guys are totally innocent.</p>",
      "votes": 9,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2114451,
          "author_name": "senkin13",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-01-25T02:02:21.693000",
          "content": "<p>kaggle need to improve their cheating detection because I saw they do it again and again never be banned</p>",
          "votes": 7,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2114473,
      "author_name": "NikhilMishra",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-01-25T02:48:45.090000",
      "content": "<p>I wonder if code verification made compulsory for all gold solutions, can help in this ? </p>",
      "votes": 5,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2115169,
          "author_name": "Theo Viel",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-01-25T14:38:02.357000",
          "content": "<p>Even with verification, unless you really dig into the codebase, it's difficult to detect private sharing. Sometimes people share functions without bothering to change anything though.</p>\n<p>People suddenly jumping to high ranks while others have spent weeks grinding the 0.001 improvements are easy to detect however, but that does not necessarily imply cheating.</p>",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2115182,
              "author_name": "NikhilMishra",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-01-25T14:46:41.067000",
              "content": "<p>Agreed, especially wrt the last part :D. But also enforcing something, will make people fear before doing things like this, and the number reduce hopefully.</p>",
              "votes": 3,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2113221,
      "author_name": "Gunes Evitan",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-01-24T06:40:40.817000",
      "content": "<p>I heard some folks are removed from past competitions because they share their notebooks/datasets a couple days before merging. Be careful with that too. </p>",
      "votes": 4,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2115469,
      "author_name": "Ebc",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-01-25T19:36:31.933000",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for the suggestion. Are there any guidelines or recommendations about how to team up in Kaggle competitions? I know this is like asking how to know who would be a good team mate but I am sure people have pointers or red flags that could work as a first check list :)</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2115839,
          "author_name": "Bruce",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-01-26T01:51:51.510000",
          "content": "<p>I think it's a good idea.</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 2115893,
          "author_name": "senkin13",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2023-01-26T03:55:01.803000",
          "content": "<p>I thinks most of kagglers can be trusted.To avoid merging with cheaters,I suggest teamup with people that you are familiar. If you teamup with unknow people,profile check is important, some cheaters register kaggle just before competition end.But only profile check is not enough,make sure he is really active in competition,like submit for many days, wish to discuss or share public code.</p>",
          "votes": 5,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2120134,
              "author_name": "Shiner",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2023-01-29T11:37:25.237000",
              "content": "<p>Collaborate with people you know well 🤛</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2114496,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2023-01-25T03:09:32.810000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "2113178": "Today is merge deadline, teamup is a fast way to improve score and can learn from each other,but there are lots of painful lessons in past competitions that merged with cheaters be banned, be careful to teamup the people who you don't know even he is grandmaster/master,if you already merged,make sure it is his solution.Good luck to everyone!",
    "2114461": "I've heard one of suspicious guy said these\n- \"Oh my laptop was broken, so can't share my codes\"\n- \"Oh I'm writing paper regarding this solution, so I can't share my solution\" \nVery funny 😂",
    "2114078": "Be careful about the \"Multi-Route Fighting\", for example player A in Team B, he gives the code/submission/idea of B to player C, and C use this to team up with other players. A and C still send his team's code/submission/idea to each other until the competition end, and the other guys are totally innocent.",
    "2114473": "I wonder if code verification made compulsory for all gold solutions, can help in this ? ",
    "2113221": "I heard some folks are removed from past competitions because they share their notebooks/datasets a couple days before merging. Be careful with that too. ",
    "2115469": "Thanks for the suggestion. Are there any guidelines or recommendations about how to team up in Kaggle competitions? I know this is like asking how to know who would be a good team mate but I am sure people have pointers or red flags that could work as a first check list :)",
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