@ryanholbrook @danielburkhardt
\nforgive me if it is a amateur question,I saw 1st place team used two datasets out of kaggle,
\nare they allowed to use for competiton if they are not declared before competition end.
[github]\nhttps://github.com/shu65/open-problems-multimodal
separated hgnc_complete_set file https://www.genenames.org/download/archive/\nReactome Pathways Gene https://reactome.org/download-data\n@ryanholbrook @danielburkhardt
\nforgive me if it is a amateur question,I saw 1st place team used two datasets out of kaggle,
\nare they allowed to use for competiton if they are not declared before competition end.
[github]\nhttps://github.com/shu65/open-problems-multimodal
separated hgnc_complete_set file https://www.genenames.org/download/archive/\nReactome Pathways Gene https://reactome.org/download-data\nIn the Rules under 7. Competition Data -
\n\n\nC. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants. The ability to use External Data under this Section 7.C (External Data) does not limit your other obligations under these Competition Rules, including but not limited to Section 11 (Winners Obligations).
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Usually as long as the data is publicly available and no specific requirement in the competition to post what external data is used that is OK.
\nFor winners the license of the datasets may need to be open source, creative commons - think both of these are.
Many of us don't know such datasets and how to use them,I think using them silently break the rule.So I hope kaggle can give us a official declaration or a reasonable solution. @danielburkhardt @ryanholbrook
", "rawMarkdown": "Many of us don't know such datasets and how to use them,I think using them silently break the rule.So I hope kaggle can give us a official declaration or a reasonable solution. @danielburkhardt @ryanholbrook", "votes": null }, { "id": "2040944", "postDate": "11/23/2022 14:18:46", "content": "Hi @senkin13, from our perspective, external data is fair game as outlined in the Rules, and the domain expertise is part of the challenge. There are many different sources of public external data that one could use for this competition, and both of these files have been suggested before publicly in the leaderboard: (See a summary here).
\nI do think some domain knowledge can be helpful here, and I see it could be a barrier to entry for some people. I think when we host our next competition, we're likely to host some webinar style sessions where we talk about different kinds of external datasets competitors might want to take advantage of.
", "rawMarkdown": "Hi @senkin13, from our perspective, external data is fair game as outlined in the Rules, and the domain expertise is part of the challenge. There are many different sources of public external data that one could use for this competition, and both of these files have been suggested before publicly in the leaderboard: (See a summary [here](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/361025)).\n\nI do think some domain knowledge can be helpful here, and I see it could be a barrier to entry for some people. I think when we host our next competition, we're likely to host some webinar style sessions where we talk about different kinds of external datasets competitors might want to take advantage of.", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 2037907, "author_name": "something4kag", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/21/2022 03:38:10", "content": "In the Rules under 7. Competition Data -
\n\n\nC. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants. The ability to use External Data under this Section 7.C (External Data) does not limit your other obligations under these Competition Rules, including but not limited to Section 11 (Winners Obligations).
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Usually as long as the data is publicly available and no specific requirement in the competition to post what external data is used that is OK.
\nFor winners the license of the datasets may need to be open source, creative commons - think both of these are.
Many of us don't know such datasets and how to use them,I think using them silently break the rule.So I hope kaggle can give us a official declaration or a reasonable solution. @danielburkhardt @ryanholbrook
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2040944, "author_name": "danielburkhardt", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/23/2022 14:18:46", "content": "Hi @senkin13, from our perspective, external data is fair game as outlined in the Rules, and the domain expertise is part of the challenge. There are many different sources of public external data that one could use for this competition, and both of these files have been suggested before publicly in the leaderboard: (See a summary here).
\nI do think some domain knowledge can be helpful here, and I see it could be a barrier to entry for some people. I think when we host our next competition, we're likely to host some webinar style sessions where we talk about different kinds of external datasets competitors might want to take advantage of.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "2037217": "ryanholbrook @danielburkhardt \nforgive me if it is a amateur question,I saw 1st place team used two datasets out of kaggle,\nare they allowed to use for competiton if they are not declared before competition end.\n\n`[github]\nhttps://github.com/shu65/open-problems-multimodal`\n\n```python\n2.separated hgnc_complete_set file from https://www.genenames.org/download/archive/\n3.Reactome Pathways Gene Set from https://reactome.org/download-data\n```", "2037907": "In the Rules under 7. Competition Data -\n\n> C. External Data. You may use data other than the Competition Data (“External Data”) to develop and test your Submissions. However, you will ensure the External Data is publicly available and equally accessible to use by all participants of the Competition for purposes of the competition at no cost to the other participants. The ability to use External Data under this Section 7.C (External Data) does not limit your other obligations under these Competition Rules, including but not limited to Section 11 (Winners Obligations). \n\nUsually as long as the data is publicly available and no specific requirement in the competition to post what external data is used that is OK.\nFor winners the license of the datasets may need to be open source, creative commons - think both of these are.", "2040619": "Many of us don't know such datasets and how to use them,I think using them silently break the rule.So I hope kaggle can give us a official declaration or a reasonable solution. @danielburkhardt @ryanholbrook", "2040944": "Hi @senkin13, from our perspective, external data is fair game as outlined in the Rules, and the domain expertise is part of the challenge. There are many different sources of public external data that one could use for this competition, and both of these files have been suggested before publicly in the leaderboard: (See a summary [here](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/361025)).\n\nI do think some domain knowledge can be helpful here, and I see it could be a barrier to entry for some people. I think when we host our next competition, we're likely to host some webinar style sessions where we talk about different kinds of external datasets competitors might want to take advantage of." }, "source": "meta" }