{
  "id": 366913,
  "title": "Key ways to go from the top of the rankings to the bottom",
  "url": "/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/366913",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2022-11-18T09:57:53.016619900Z",
  "votes": 18,
  "comment_count": 9,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Neglected to normalize target values😣</p>\n<p>From rank 10+ to rank 800+, lesson paid for with blood</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2034634",
      "postDate": "11/18/2022 09:57:53",
      "content": "<p>Neglected to normalize target values😣</p>\n<p>From rank 10+ to rank 800+, lesson paid for with blood</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Neglected to normalize target values😣\n\nFrom rank 10+ to rank 800+, lesson paid for with blood",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2034839",
      "postDate": "11/18/2022 13:08:57",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing ! </p>\n<p>Any idea what mechanism is behind that ? </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for sharing ! \n\nAny idea what mechanism is behind that ?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2035612",
      "postDate": "11/19/2022 04:12:33",
      "content": "<p>Might need this too!  😭  <br>\nNext time hope will be the opposite direction for you. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Might need this too!  😭  \nNext time hope will be the opposite direction for you.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2036125",
      "postDate": "11/19/2022 13:42:44",
      "content": "<p>Good luck for the next assignment, in such cases, the learning from a mistake is the most valuable lesson <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/cuizhengliang\" target=\"_blank\">@cuizhengliang</a>! All the best!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Good luck for the next assignment, in such cases, the learning from a mistake is the most valuable lesson @cuizhengliang! All the best!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2038260",
      "postDate": "11/21/2022 09:38:49",
      "content": "<p>I too dropped nearly 800 ranks.😭</p>\n<p>I standardized the input features for each subset of dates to increase robustness to date variation, but this seems to have created a divergence between public and private.<br>\nI adopted this approach because the public score increased, but I needed to think a bit more about the CV strategy.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I too dropped nearly 800 ranks.😭\n\nI standardized the input features for each subset of dates to increase robustness to date variation, but this seems to have created a divergence between public and private.\nI adopted this approach because the public score increased, but I needed to think a bit more about the CV strategy.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2041521",
      "postDate": "11/24/2022 02:31:20",
      "content": "<p>I moved up 700+ ranks. After two submissions (one for test) 10 days before deadline, my rank was around 750, so I give up wondering it would ever work for the remaining days. With hindersight, the public LB was a decoy I should pay more attention on CV which supposed to imitate the priv LB. <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/cuizhengliang\" target=\"_blank\">@cuizhengliang</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/moritake04\" target=\"_blank\">@moritake04</a> we share some regrets on either direction. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I moved up 700+ ranks. After two submissions (one for test) 10 days before deadline, my rank was around 750, so I give up wondering it would ever work for the remaining days. With hindersight, the public LB was a decoy I should pay more attention on CV which supposed to imitate the priv LB. @cuizhengliang, @moritake04 we share some regrets on either direction.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2041680",
      "postDate": "11/24/2022 05:58:31",
      "content": "<p>I'm so sorry to hear that. I also experience a terrible unlucky shake but not huge like yours. Add oil in the next competition and may more good luck with you in the future. 愿好运与你常伴！</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm so sorry to hear that. I also experience a terrible unlucky shake but not huge like yours. Add oil in the next competition and may more good luck with you in the future. 愿好运与你常伴！",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2041884",
      "postDate": "11/24/2022 09:08:55",
      "content": "<p>好眼熟的id😄  </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "好眼熟的id😄",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2077284",
      "postDate": "12/27/2022 12:22:53",
      "content": "<p>Hi, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/zeemeen\" target=\"_blank\">@zeemeen</a> ! Can you describe your solution a bit? E.g. what CV strategy and model did you use?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi, @zeemeen ! Can you describe your solution a bit? E.g. what CV strategy and model did you use?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2082095",
      "postDate": "01/01/2023 05:21:37",
      "content": "<p>After embedding training and test set together, I measure density of test data around each training data and assign training weight inversely porportional to it. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "After embedding training and test set together, I measure density of test data around each training data and assign training weight inversely porportional to it.",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2034839,
      "author_name": "alexandervc",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/18/2022 13:08:57",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for sharing ! </p>\n<p>Any idea what mechanism is behind that ? </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2035612,
      "author_name": "something4kag",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/19/2022 04:12:33",
      "content": "<p>Might need this too!  😭  <br>\nNext time hope will be the opposite direction for you. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2036125,
      "author_name": "ravi20076",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/19/2022 13:42:44",
      "content": "<p>Good luck for the next assignment, in such cases, the learning from a mistake is the most valuable lesson <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/cuizhengliang\" target=\"_blank\">@cuizhengliang</a>! All the best!</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2038260,
      "author_name": "moritake04",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/21/2022 09:38:49",
      "content": "<p>I too dropped nearly 800 ranks.😭</p>\n<p>I standardized the input features for each subset of dates to increase robustness to date variation, but this seems to have created a divergence between public and private.<br>\nI adopted this approach because the public score increased, but I needed to think a bit more about the CV strategy.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2041521,
      "author_name": "zeemeen",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/24/2022 02:31:20",
      "content": "<p>I moved up 700+ ranks. After two submissions (one for test) 10 days before deadline, my rank was around 750, so I give up wondering it would ever work for the remaining days. With hindersight, the public LB was a decoy I should pay more attention on CV which supposed to imitate the priv LB. <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/cuizhengliang\" target=\"_blank\">@cuizhengliang</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/moritake04\" target=\"_blank\">@moritake04</a> we share some regrets on either direction. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2077284,
          "author_name": "shitovvladimir",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "12/27/2022 12:22:53",
          "content": "<p>Hi, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/zeemeen\" target=\"_blank\">@zeemeen</a> ! Can you describe your solution a bit? E.g. what CV strategy and model did you use?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2082095,
              "author_name": "zeemeen",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "01/01/2023 05:21:37",
              "content": "<p>After embedding training and test set together, I measure density of test data around each training data and assign training weight inversely porportional to it. </p>",
              "votes": null,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2041680,
      "author_name": "songqizhou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/24/2022 05:58:31",
      "content": "<p>I'm so sorry to hear that. I also experience a terrible unlucky shake but not huge like yours. Add oil in the next competition and may more good luck with you in the future. 愿好运与你常伴！</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2041884,
          "author_name": "cuizhengliang",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/24/2022 09:08:55",
          "content": "<p>好眼熟的id😄  </p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
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    "2034634": "Neglected to normalize target values😣\n\nFrom rank 10+ to rank 800+, lesson paid for with blood",
    "2034839": "Thanks for sharing ! \n\nAny idea what mechanism is behind that ?",
    "2035612": "Might need this too!  😭  \nNext time hope will be the opposite direction for you.",
    "2036125": "Good luck for the next assignment, in such cases, the learning from a mistake is the most valuable lesson @cuizhengliang! All the best!",
    "2038260": "I too dropped nearly 800 ranks.😭\n\nI standardized the input features for each subset of dates to increase robustness to date variation, but this seems to have created a divergence between public and private.\nI adopted this approach because the public score increased, but I needed to think a bit more about the CV strategy.",
    "2041521": "I moved up 700+ ranks. After two submissions (one for test) 10 days before deadline, my rank was around 750, so I give up wondering it would ever work for the remaining days. With hindersight, the public LB was a decoy I should pay more attention on CV which supposed to imitate the priv LB. @cuizhengliang, @moritake04 we share some regrets on either direction.",
    "2041680": "I'm so sorry to hear that. I also experience a terrible unlucky shake but not huge like yours. Add oil in the next competition and may more good luck with you in the future. 愿好运与你常伴！",
    "2041884": "好眼熟的id😄",
    "2077284": "Hi, @zeemeen ! Can you describe your solution a bit? E.g. what CV strategy and model did you use?",
    "2082095": "After embedding training and test set together, I measure density of test data around each training data and assign training weight inversely porportional to it."
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