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  "id": 359715,
  "title": "Private sharing",
  "url": "/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/359715",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2022-10-13T10:02:18.430479100Z",
  "votes": -9,
  "comment_count": 3,
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  "content": "<p><a href=\"https://t.me/sberlogabig/176\" target=\"_blank\">https://t.me/sberlogabig/176</a></p>",
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    {
      "id": "1985411",
      "postDate": "10/13/2022 10:02:18",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://t.me/sberlogabig/176\" target=\"_blank\">https://t.me/sberlogabig/176</a></p>",
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      "id": "1985523",
      "postDate": "10/13/2022 11:45:46",
      "content": "<p>It is not private sharing.<br>\nWe have openly  invited many times everybody to join:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348293\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348293</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/352236\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/352236</a></p>\n<p>And main focus is not about score improving for the competition, but rather making the research joinltly with biologists<br>\naround that and similar data.<br>\nSome of use are working in bioinformatics field and analysis of such kind of data is in focus of interests.<br>\nThere are plenty research questions related to the cutting-edge data provided by that competition,<br>\nsome of us were working on that and shared notebooks, datasets,<br>\nlong before the competition started:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/alexandervc/datasets?search=scRNA-seq\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/alexandervc/datasets?search=scRNA-seq</a></p>\n<p>Also we are trying to put all the ideas and notebooks publicly available to everybody. <br>\nOne can check the notebooks and discussion topics shared:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/358860\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/358860</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350856\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350856</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350863\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350863</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350314\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350314</a><br>\ndozens other…</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-feature-generation-by-dimreductions\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-feature-generation-by-dimreductions</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-eda-bioinfo-targets-citeseq-01\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-eda-bioinfo-targets-citeseq-01</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-cell-cycle-03-daybydaychange-megakaryocyte\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-cell-cycle-03-daybydaychange-megakaryocyte</a><br>\ndozens others…</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It is not private sharing.\nWe have openly  invited many times everybody to join:\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348293\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/352236\n\nAnd main focus is not about score improving for the competition, but rather making the research joinltly with biologists\naround that and similar data.\nSome of use are working in bioinformatics field and analysis of such kind of data is in focus of interests.\nThere are plenty research questions related to the cutting-edge data provided by that competition,\nsome of us were working on that and shared notebooks, datasets,\nlong before the competition started:\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/alexandervc/datasets?search=scRNA-seq\n\nAlso we are trying to put all the ideas and notebooks publicly available to everybody. \nOne can check the notebooks and discussion topics shared:\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/358860\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350856\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350863\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350314\ndozens other...\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-feature-generation-by-dimreductions\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-eda-bioinfo-targets-citeseq-01\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-cell-cycle-03-daybydaychange-megakaryocyte\ndozens others...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1985549",
      "postDate": "10/13/2022 12:03:06",
      "content": "<p>If your true intention is written as above, can't you do on Kaggle platform (discussion or code)? And why do you use Russian instead of English? Don't you think this limits accessibility? Above all, do you need to do this now, during the competition? Please do not disturbe the competition.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "If your true intention is written as above, can't you do on Kaggle platform (discussion or code)? And why do you use Russian instead of English? Don't you think this limits accessibility? Above all, do you need to do this now, during the competition? Please do not disturbe the competition.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1985610",
      "postDate": "10/13/2022 12:45:02",
      "content": "<p>1) All code and data is shared on the Kaggle platform - see answer above.<br>\nMain ideas which come to mind are also shared Kaggle  discussion are also shared - see answer above. <br>\nBut somewhat chatty talks might be better in zoom or chats.<br>\nWe have many time attracted attention of chats participants that there should be NO \"private sharing\" <br>\n(as defined by Kaggle rules - sharing code, data outside teams):<br>\n<a href=\"https://t.me/sberlogacompete/1109\" target=\"_blank\">https://t.me/sberlogacompete/1109</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://t.me/sberlogacompete/3\" target=\"_blank\">https://t.me/sberlogacompete/3</a><br>\nWe strictly follow that rule. </p>\n<p>2) The main meetings are in English, recorded and shared on youtube, information placed on Kaggle.<br>\nSee links to Youtube videos: <br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661</a><br>\nSome meetings were in Russian since there was no English speaking around and they were quite biological, not really data science related / helpful for score improvement - but again recorded and on Youtube. <br>\nToday meeting was planned to be rather organizational with attempt to understand how we can proceed further if any.<br>\nBut we will do it in English. </p>\n<p>3) Why during the competition - when it will be finished - for data scientists - all the excitement and involvement will disappear. Now you have something like 700 data scientists somehow involved, the idea is - if one is able to <br>\nto attract at least part of their attention  to at least part of  research questions around that might be useful for research community. There is no chance for that after the end. </p>\n<p>Any way one is welcome to join and to try to find the bridges between biologists and data scientists.<br>\nThat competition is somewhat specific one.  More and more datasets like that will be produced,<br>\nso the insight gained during the competition would be quite of use for many researchers.<br>\nNot sure there are many competition like that. </p>\n<p>PS<br>\nSee for example questions:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.biostars.org/p/9541409/#9541410\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.biostars.org/p/9541409/#9541410</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.biostars.org/p/9538656/#9538680\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.biostars.org/p/9538656/#9538680</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "1) All code and data is shared on the Kaggle platform - see answer above.\nMain ideas which come to mind are also shared Kaggle  discussion are also shared - see answer above. \nBut somewhat chatty talks might be better in zoom or chats.\nWe have many time attracted attention of chats participants that there should be NO \"private sharing\" \n(as defined by Kaggle rules - sharing code, data outside teams):\nhttps://t.me/sberlogacompete/1109\nhttps://t.me/sberlogacompete/3\nWe strictly follow that rule. \n\n2) The main meetings are in English, recorded and shared on youtube, information placed on Kaggle.\nSee links to Youtube videos: \nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661\nSome meetings were in Russian since there was no English speaking around and they were quite biological, not really data science related / helpful for score improvement - but again recorded and on Youtube. \nToday meeting was planned to be rather organizational with attempt to understand how we can proceed further if any.\nBut we will do it in English. \n\n3) Why during the competition - when it will be finished - for data scientists - all the excitement and involvement will disappear. Now you have something like 700 data scientists somehow involved, the idea is - if one is able to \nto attract at least part of their attention  to at least part of  research questions around that might be useful for research community. There is no chance for that after the end. \n\n\nAny way one is welcome to join and to try to find the bridges between biologists and data scientists.\nThat competition is somewhat specific one.  More and more datasets like that will be produced,\nso the insight gained during the competition would be quite of use for many researchers.\nNot sure there are many competition like that. \n\nPS\nSee for example questions:\nhttps://www.biostars.org/p/9541409/#9541410\nhttps://www.biostars.org/p/9538656/#9538680",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": 1985523,
      "author_name": "alexandervc",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/13/2022 11:45:46",
      "content": "<p>It is not private sharing.<br>\nWe have openly  invited many times everybody to join:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348293\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348293</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/352236\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/352236</a></p>\n<p>And main focus is not about score improving for the competition, but rather making the research joinltly with biologists<br>\naround that and similar data.<br>\nSome of use are working in bioinformatics field and analysis of such kind of data is in focus of interests.<br>\nThere are plenty research questions related to the cutting-edge data provided by that competition,<br>\nsome of us were working on that and shared notebooks, datasets,<br>\nlong before the competition started:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/alexandervc/datasets?search=scRNA-seq\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/alexandervc/datasets?search=scRNA-seq</a></p>\n<p>Also we are trying to put all the ideas and notebooks publicly available to everybody. <br>\nOne can check the notebooks and discussion topics shared:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/358860\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/358860</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350856\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350856</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350863\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350863</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350314\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350314</a><br>\ndozens other…</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-feature-generation-by-dimreductions\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-feature-generation-by-dimreductions</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-eda-bioinfo-targets-citeseq-01\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-eda-bioinfo-targets-citeseq-01</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-cell-cycle-03-daybydaychange-megakaryocyte\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-cell-cycle-03-daybydaychange-megakaryocyte</a><br>\ndozens others…</p>",
      "votes": null,
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        {
          "id": 1985549,
          "author_name": "ludditep",
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          "post_date": "10/13/2022 12:03:06",
          "content": "<p>If your true intention is written as above, can't you do on Kaggle platform (discussion or code)? And why do you use Russian instead of English? Don't you think this limits accessibility? Above all, do you need to do this now, during the competition? Please do not disturbe the competition.</p>",
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          "id": 1985610,
          "author_name": "alexandervc",
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          "post_date": "10/13/2022 12:45:02",
          "content": "<p>1) All code and data is shared on the Kaggle platform - see answer above.<br>\nMain ideas which come to mind are also shared Kaggle  discussion are also shared - see answer above. <br>\nBut somewhat chatty talks might be better in zoom or chats.<br>\nWe have many time attracted attention of chats participants that there should be NO \"private sharing\" <br>\n(as defined by Kaggle rules - sharing code, data outside teams):<br>\n<a href=\"https://t.me/sberlogacompete/1109\" target=\"_blank\">https://t.me/sberlogacompete/1109</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://t.me/sberlogacompete/3\" target=\"_blank\">https://t.me/sberlogacompete/3</a><br>\nWe strictly follow that rule. </p>\n<p>2) The main meetings are in English, recorded and shared on youtube, information placed on Kaggle.<br>\nSee links to Youtube videos: <br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661</a><br>\nSome meetings were in Russian since there was no English speaking around and they were quite biological, not really data science related / helpful for score improvement - but again recorded and on Youtube. <br>\nToday meeting was planned to be rather organizational with attempt to understand how we can proceed further if any.<br>\nBut we will do it in English. </p>\n<p>3) Why during the competition - when it will be finished - for data scientists - all the excitement and involvement will disappear. Now you have something like 700 data scientists somehow involved, the idea is - if one is able to <br>\nto attract at least part of their attention  to at least part of  research questions around that might be useful for research community. There is no chance for that after the end. </p>\n<p>Any way one is welcome to join and to try to find the bridges between biologists and data scientists.<br>\nThat competition is somewhat specific one.  More and more datasets like that will be produced,<br>\nso the insight gained during the competition would be quite of use for many researchers.<br>\nNot sure there are many competition like that. </p>\n<p>PS<br>\nSee for example questions:<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.biostars.org/p/9541409/#9541410\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.biostars.org/p/9541409/#9541410</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.biostars.org/p/9538656/#9538680\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.biostars.org/p/9538656/#9538680</a></p>",
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    "1985523": "It is not private sharing.\nWe have openly  invited many times everybody to join:\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348293\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/352236\n\nAnd main focus is not about score improving for the competition, but rather making the research joinltly with biologists\naround that and similar data.\nSome of use are working in bioinformatics field and analysis of such kind of data is in focus of interests.\nThere are plenty research questions related to the cutting-edge data provided by that competition,\nsome of us were working on that and shared notebooks, datasets,\nlong before the competition started:\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/alexandervc/datasets?search=scRNA-seq\n\nAlso we are trying to put all the ideas and notebooks publicly available to everybody. \nOne can check the notebooks and discussion topics shared:\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/358860\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350856\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350863\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/350314\ndozens other...\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-feature-generation-by-dimreductions\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-eda-bioinfo-targets-citeseq-01\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/alexandervc/mmscel-cell-cycle-03-daybydaychange-megakaryocyte\ndozens others...",
    "1985549": "If your true intention is written as above, can't you do on Kaggle platform (discussion or code)? And why do you use Russian instead of English? Don't you think this limits accessibility? Above all, do you need to do this now, during the competition? Please do not disturbe the competition.",
    "1985610": "1) All code and data is shared on the Kaggle platform - see answer above.\nMain ideas which come to mind are also shared Kaggle  discussion are also shared - see answer above. \nBut somewhat chatty talks might be better in zoom or chats.\nWe have many time attracted attention of chats participants that there should be NO \"private sharing\" \n(as defined by Kaggle rules - sharing code, data outside teams):\nhttps://t.me/sberlogacompete/1109\nhttps://t.me/sberlogacompete/3\nWe strictly follow that rule. \n\n2) The main meetings are in English, recorded and shared on youtube, information placed on Kaggle.\nSee links to Youtube videos: \nhttps://www.kaggle.com/competitions/open-problems-multimodal/discussion/348661\nSome meetings were in Russian since there was no English speaking around and they were quite biological, not really data science related / helpful for score improvement - but again recorded and on Youtube. \nToday meeting was planned to be rather organizational with attempt to understand how we can proceed further if any.\nBut we will do it in English. \n\n3) Why during the competition - when it will be finished - for data scientists - all the excitement and involvement will disappear. Now you have something like 700 data scientists somehow involved, the idea is - if one is able to \nto attract at least part of their attention  to at least part of  research questions around that might be useful for research community. There is no chance for that after the end. \n\n\nAny way one is welcome to join and to try to find the bridges between biologists and data scientists.\nThat competition is somewhat specific one.  More and more datasets like that will be produced,\nso the insight gained during the competition would be quite of use for many researchers.\nNot sure there are many competition like that. \n\nPS\nSee for example questions:\nhttps://www.biostars.org/p/9541409/#9541410\nhttps://www.biostars.org/p/9538656/#9538680"
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