As there are such a small number of injuries in this dataset, some 105 I think. The right strategy the NFL should use is to hire a bunch of top orthopedic specialists and have them analyze TV footage of each of these injuries. These kinds of injuries requiring acute force most likely caused by another player's impact at a high speed (momentum) rather than self-inflicted so I am not sure that the kind of turf will be a big factor.
", "messages": [ { "id": "708936", "postDate": "01/02/2020 20:59:16", "content": "As there are such a small number of injuries in this dataset, some 105 I think. The right strategy the NFL should use is to hire a bunch of top orthopedic specialists and have them analyze TV footage of each of these injuries. These kinds of injuries requiring acute force most likely caused by another player's impact at a high speed (momentum) rather than self-inflicted so I am not sure that the kind of turf will be a big factor.
", "rawMarkdown": "As there are such a small number of injuries in this dataset, some 105 I think. The right strategy the NFL should use is to hire a bunch of top orthopedic specialists and have them analyze TV footage of each of these injuries. These kinds of injuries requiring acute force most likely caused by another player's impact at a high speed (momentum) rather than self-inflicted so I am not sure that the kind of turf will be a big factor.", "votes": null }, { "id": "709000", "postDate": "01/02/2020 23:01:33", "content": "I don't think anyone would disagree with the suggestion of manual medical review, but for what it's worth, these 105 injuries are all supposedly non-contact, so impact with another player shouldn't have been a factor. Granted, some of the injuries aren't labelled with an individual play, so they could have been contact injuries. The accumulated wear & tear of thousands of prior plays, contact or not, is probably an important factor as well.
", "rawMarkdown": "I don't think anyone would disagree with the suggestion of manual medical review, but for what it's worth, these 105 injuries are all supposedly non-contact, so impact with another player shouldn't have been a factor. Granted, some of the injuries aren't labelled with an individual play, so they could have been contact injuries. The accumulated wear & tear of thousands of prior plays, contact or not, is probably an important factor as well.", "votes": null }, { "id": "709015", "postDate": "01/02/2020 23:47:19", "content": "yup, I find it hard to believe that an NFL athlete would suffer a major injury without a huge force of contact. These guys spend hours each day working out and training. Muscles and bones can normally take acute force to break and these huge players moving at high speed and focussed point of impact is what causes injuries.
\n\nPrevious wear and tear is certainly very important as you say. Existing weakness may lead to future injury.
\n\nI have had the unfortunate experience of rupturing the tendon below my knee and being out of action for over a year. A \"weekend warrior\" injury my doctor said, but these NFL players are not weekend warriors.
", "rawMarkdown": "yup, I find it hard to believe that an NFL athlete would suffer a major injury without a huge force of contact. These guys spend hours each day working out and training. Muscles and bones can normally take acute force to break and these huge players moving at high speed and focussed point of impact is what causes injuries. \n\nPrevious wear and tear is certainly very important as you say. Existing weakness may lead to future injury.\n\n\nI have had the unfortunate experience of rupturing the tendon below my knee and being out of action for over a year. A \"weekend warrior\" injury my doctor said, but these NFL players are not weekend warriors.", "votes": null }, { "id": "709139", "postDate": "01/03/2020 04:34:14", "content": "This is related to an NFL urban legend of the Turf Monster.
\n\n\n\n\nA turf monster is an invisible creature that lives beneath the Artificial turf in several football stadiums. When a player is carrying the ball in open field, the turf monster will occasionally trip up the ball carrier and stop the play. He does not discriminate between teams, offense or defense, or ethnicity.
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This seems funny at first, but the type of turf used might have something to do with the injuries, as numerous instances have been recorded on tape.\nYouTube video
", "rawMarkdown": "This is related to an NFL urban legend of the **Turf Monster**.\n\n> A turf monster is an invisible creature that lives beneath the Artificial turf in several football stadiums. When a player is carrying the ball in open field, the turf monster will occasionally trip up the ball carrier and stop the play. He does not discriminate between teams, offense or defense, or ethnicity.\n\nThis seems funny at first, but the type of turf used might have something to do with the injuries, as numerous instances have been recorded on tape.\n[YouTube video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCR1w1k-xUk)", "votes": null }, { "id": "709173", "postDate": "01/03/2020 05:51:58", "content": "Keep in mind that they're also generating/exerting absurd levels of force upon their own bodies, so it's not entirely impossible that one unlucky movement could twists a leg just enough. A linebacker on the Lions, I think, a couple years ago injured his knee by landing awkwardly after jumping into a celebratory dance after a sack.
", "rawMarkdown": "Keep in mind that they're also generating/exerting absurd levels of force upon their own bodies, so it's not entirely impossible that one unlucky movement could twists a leg just enough. A linebacker on the Lions, I think, a couple years ago injured his knee by landing awkwardly after jumping into a celebratory dance after a sack.", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 709000, "author_name": "zenterfield", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/02/2020 23:01:33", "content": "I don't think anyone would disagree with the suggestion of manual medical review, but for what it's worth, these 105 injuries are all supposedly non-contact, so impact with another player shouldn't have been a factor. Granted, some of the injuries aren't labelled with an individual play, so they could have been contact injuries. The accumulated wear & tear of thousands of prior plays, contact or not, is probably an important factor as well.
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 709015, "author_name": "lawrencechernin", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/02/2020 23:47:19", "content": "yup, I find it hard to believe that an NFL athlete would suffer a major injury without a huge force of contact. These guys spend hours each day working out and training. Muscles and bones can normally take acute force to break and these huge players moving at high speed and focussed point of impact is what causes injuries.
\n\nPrevious wear and tear is certainly very important as you say. Existing weakness may lead to future injury.
\n\nI have had the unfortunate experience of rupturing the tendon below my knee and being out of action for over a year. A \"weekend warrior\" injury my doctor said, but these NFL players are not weekend warriors.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 709173, "author_name": "zenterfield", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/03/2020 05:51:58", "content": "Keep in mind that they're also generating/exerting absurd levels of force upon their own bodies, so it's not entirely impossible that one unlucky movement could twists a leg just enough. A linebacker on the Lions, I think, a couple years ago injured his knee by landing awkwardly after jumping into a celebratory dance after a sack.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 709139, "author_name": "skillsmuggler", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/03/2020 04:34:14", "content": "This is related to an NFL urban legend of the Turf Monster.
\n\n\n\n\nA turf monster is an invisible creature that lives beneath the Artificial turf in several football stadiums. When a player is carrying the ball in open field, the turf monster will occasionally trip up the ball carrier and stop the play. He does not discriminate between teams, offense or defense, or ethnicity.
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This seems funny at first, but the type of turf used might have something to do with the injuries, as numerous instances have been recorded on tape.\nYouTube video
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