{
  "id": 286330,
  "title": "missing plays?",
  "url": "/competitions/nfl-big-data-bowl-2022/discussion/286330",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2021-11-08T18:04:55.762072700Z",
  "votes": null,
  "comment_count": 6,
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  "content": "<p>is there a chance that special teams plays are missing from the dataset?</p>\n<p>For example, for game id '2018090600' (philly vs atl in philly), the list of plays is missing the 2 point conversion (for the final score at the 2:19 time mark).  The plays include the subsequent kickoff (by philly to atl at 2:19).  </p>\n<p>See ESPN boxscore:  <a href=\"https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401030710\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401030710</a></p>\n<p>Came across this with the limited number of 2 point conversions attempt events (current listed at 13!? in total over three season period).  We know this cannot be right.</p>\n<p>Any thoughts?  Any other likely missing fields?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "1575921",
      "postDate": "11/08/2021 18:04:55",
      "content": "<p>is there a chance that special teams plays are missing from the dataset?</p>\n<p>For example, for game id '2018090600' (philly vs atl in philly), the list of plays is missing the 2 point conversion (for the final score at the 2:19 time mark).  The plays include the subsequent kickoff (by philly to atl at 2:19).  </p>\n<p>See ESPN boxscore:  <a href=\"https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401030710\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401030710</a></p>\n<p>Came across this with the limited number of 2 point conversions attempt events (current listed at 13!? in total over three season period).  We know this cannot be right.</p>\n<p>Any thoughts?  Any other likely missing fields?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "is there a chance that special teams plays are missing from the dataset?\n\nFor example, for game id '2018090600' (philly vs atl in philly), the list of plays is missing the 2 point conversion (for the final score at the 2:19 time mark).  The plays include the subsequent kickoff (by philly to atl at 2:19).  \n\nSee ESPN boxscore:  https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401030710\n\nCame across this with the limited number of 2 point conversions attempt events (current listed at 13!? in total over three season period).  We know this cannot be right.\n\nAny thoughts?  Any other likely missing fields?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1575928",
      "postDate": "11/08/2021 18:11:40",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/statsbymichaellopez\" target=\"_blank\">@statsbymichaellopez</a> - any chance you can help address this question?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "statsbymichaellopez - any chance you can help address this question?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1575950",
      "postDate": "11/08/2021 18:42:49",
      "content": "<p>also double checked punts…there seems to be (at least) 638 missing punt events from the data set over the period.  This includes postseason games.  The posted data set only seems to include regular season (not sure if this is by design however).</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "also double checked punts...there seems to be (at least) 638 missing punt events from the data set over the period.  This includes postseason games.  The posted data set only seems to include regular season (not sure if this is by design however).",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1576157",
      "postDate": "11/09/2021 00:31:15",
      "content": "<p>The missing plays are plays where the player or ball tracking data was not cleanly measured or obtained. They were purposely removed from all data sets.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The missing plays are plays where the player or ball tracking data was not cleanly measured or obtained. They were purposely removed from all data sets.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1578295",
      "postDate": "11/10/2021 20:35:40",
      "content": "<p>ok, awesome, thank you.  </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "ok, awesome, thank you.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1581668",
      "postDate": "11/14/2021 05:32:49",
      "content": "<p>I have found the same. Here is an example of a punt missing from the data, regular season:</p>\n<p>Week 1, CIN at IND, gameId=2018090902, playId=1256:</p>\n<p>(9:34) 10-K.Huber punts 46 yards to IND 22, Center-46-C.Harris. 80-C.Rogers to IND 22 for no gain (29-T.McRae).</p>\n<p>Refer to <a href=\"https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201809090clt.htm\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201809090clt.htm</a>, Kicking &amp; Punting section.</p>\n<p>I am wondering if someone can advise if this is by design or if it can be corrected:</p>\n<p>Thanks,</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I have found the same. Here is an example of a punt missing from the data, regular season:\n\nWeek 1, CIN at IND, gameId=2018090902, playId=1256:\n\n(9:34) 10-K.Huber punts 46 yards to IND 22, Center-46-C.Harris. 80-C.Rogers to IND 22 for no gain (29-T.McRae).\n\nRefer to https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201809090clt.htm, Kicking & Punting section.\n\nI am wondering if someone can advise if this is by design or if it can be corrected:\n\nThanks,",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1582419",
      "postDate": "11/14/2021 21:59:00",
      "content": "<p>Please see my response above.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Please see my response above.",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1575928,
      "author_name": "brndndel",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/08/2021 18:11:40",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/statsbymichaellopez\" target=\"_blank\">@statsbymichaellopez</a> - any chance you can help address this question?</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1581668,
          "author_name": "charliezimmerman",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/14/2021 05:32:49",
          "content": "<p>I have found the same. Here is an example of a punt missing from the data, regular season:</p>\n<p>Week 1, CIN at IND, gameId=2018090902, playId=1256:</p>\n<p>(9:34) 10-K.Huber punts 46 yards to IND 22, Center-46-C.Harris. 80-C.Rogers to IND 22 for no gain (29-T.McRae).</p>\n<p>Refer to <a href=\"https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201809090clt.htm\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201809090clt.htm</a>, Kicking &amp; Punting section.</p>\n<p>I am wondering if someone can advise if this is by design or if it can be corrected:</p>\n<p>Thanks,</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1582419,
          "author_name": "tombliss",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/14/2021 21:59:00",
          "content": "<p>Please see my response above.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 1575950,
      "author_name": "brndndel",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/08/2021 18:42:49",
      "content": "<p>also double checked punts…there seems to be (at least) 638 missing punt events from the data set over the period.  This includes postseason games.  The posted data set only seems to include regular season (not sure if this is by design however).</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1576157,
      "author_name": "tombliss",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/09/2021 00:31:15",
      "content": "<p>The missing plays are plays where the player or ball tracking data was not cleanly measured or obtained. They were purposely removed from all data sets.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1578295,
      "author_name": "brndndel",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/10/2021 20:35:40",
      "content": "<p>ok, awesome, thank you.  </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
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    "1575921": "is there a chance that special teams plays are missing from the dataset?\n\nFor example, for game id '2018090600' (philly vs atl in philly), the list of plays is missing the 2 point conversion (for the final score at the 2:19 time mark).  The plays include the subsequent kickoff (by philly to atl at 2:19).  \n\nSee ESPN boxscore:  https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401030710\n\nCame across this with the limited number of 2 point conversions attempt events (current listed at 13!? in total over three season period).  We know this cannot be right.\n\nAny thoughts?  Any other likely missing fields?",
    "1575928": "statsbymichaellopez - any chance you can help address this question?",
    "1575950": "also double checked punts...there seems to be (at least) 638 missing punt events from the data set over the period.  This includes postseason games.  The posted data set only seems to include regular season (not sure if this is by design however).",
    "1576157": "The missing plays are plays where the player or ball tracking data was not cleanly measured or obtained. They were purposely removed from all data sets.",
    "1578295": "ok, awesome, thank you.",
    "1581668": "I have found the same. Here is an example of a punt missing from the data, regular season:\n\nWeek 1, CIN at IND, gameId=2018090902, playId=1256:\n\n(9:34) 10-K.Huber punts 46 yards to IND 22, Center-46-C.Harris. 80-C.Rogers to IND 22 for no gain (29-T.McRae).\n\nRefer to https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201809090clt.htm, Kicking & Punting section.\n\nI am wondering if someone can advise if this is by design or if it can be corrected:\n\nThanks,",
    "1582419": "Please see my response above."
  },
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