{
  "id": 254081,
  "title": "PB1.3361？Unfair notebook is public in the end of this competition!",
  "url": "/competitions/mlb-player-digital-engagement-forecasting/discussion/254081",
  "author_name": "Ctrl_CV",
  "post_date": "2021-07-20T03:45:05.881000",
  "votes": 2,
  "comment_count": 4,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I find a notebook,<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/somayyehgholami/fork-of-lightgbm-catboost-ann-2505f2\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/somayyehgholami/fork-of-lightgbm-catboost-ann-2505f2</a>, which is public in the end of this competition, i think many team will get high score in PB in low cost. It is unfair for all team!</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 1394007,
      "postDate": "2021-07-20T05:22:26.413Z",
      "content": "<p>Totally agree, but this has been a recurring situation in Kaggle competitions. People post high-scoring notebooks even much closer to the competition deadline. Also, not everything in public notebooks works on private LB, try to take from it whatever you can.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Totally agree, but this has been a recurring situation in Kaggle competitions. People post high-scoring notebooks even much closer to the competition deadline. Also, not everything in public notebooks works on private LB, try to take from it whatever you can.",
      "votes": 5
    },
    {
      "id": 1393944,
      "postDate": "2021-07-20T03:45:05.883Z",
      "content": "<p>I find a notebook,<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/somayyehgholami/fork-of-lightgbm-catboost-ann-2505f2\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/somayyehgholami/fork-of-lightgbm-catboost-ann-2505f2</a>, which is public in the end of this competition, i think many team will get high score in PB in low cost. It is unfair for all team!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": " I find a notebook,https://www.kaggle.com/somayyehgholami/fork-of-lightgbm-catboost-ann-2505f2, which is public in the end of this competition, i think many team will get high score in PB in low cost. It is unfair for all team!",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 1394610,
      "postDate": "2021-07-20T13:13:34.850Z",
      "content": "<p>Honestly, I don't think this is a problem. That notebook is bronze in the public LB, but I expect a big shake-up in the private LB.</p>\n<p>Actually, there are several variations on the same theme available in the public notebooks, differing largely by some tweaks to their parameters.  For what it's worth, I think they are very good codes. </p>\n<p>It's easy to improve one's public score beyond this by playing with the parameters a little more, for example I got 1.3359 with minimal extra effort. It's obvious that many people will see this as overfitting. I certainly don't think that a difference of 0.001 in public LB has any relevance to the final evaluation scores.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Honestly, I don't think this is a problem. That notebook is bronze in the public LB, but I expect a big shake-up in the private LB.\n\nActually, there are several variations on the same theme available in the public notebooks, differing largely by some tweaks to their parameters.  For what it's worth, I think they are very good codes. \n\nIt's easy to improve one's public score beyond this by playing with the parameters a little more, for example I got 1.3359 with minimal extra effort. It's obvious that many people will see this as overfitting. I certainly don't think that a difference of 0.001 in public LB has any relevance to the final evaluation scores.",
      "votes": 3
    },
    {
      "id": 1394844,
      "postDate": "2021-07-20T17:04:32.553Z",
      "content": "<p>I think that notebook was basically tweaking some parameters to overfit   the public LB </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think that notebook was basically tweaking some parameters to overfit   the public LB ",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 1394136,
      "postDate": "2021-07-20T07:42:18.700Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "votes": -2,
      "isDeleted": true
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 1394007,
      "author_name": "Chinta",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-07-20T05:22:26.413000",
      "content": "<p>Totally agree, but this has been a recurring situation in Kaggle competitions. People post high-scoring notebooks even much closer to the competition deadline. Also, not everything in public notebooks works on private LB, try to take from it whatever you can.</p>",
      "votes": 5,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1394610,
      "author_name": "John Mitchell",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-07-20T13:13:34.850000",
      "content": "<p>Honestly, I don't think this is a problem. That notebook is bronze in the public LB, but I expect a big shake-up in the private LB.</p>\n<p>Actually, there are several variations on the same theme available in the public notebooks, differing largely by some tweaks to their parameters.  For what it's worth, I think they are very good codes. </p>\n<p>It's easy to improve one's public score beyond this by playing with the parameters a little more, for example I got 1.3359 with minimal extra effort. It's obvious that many people will see this as overfitting. I certainly don't think that a difference of 0.001 in public LB has any relevance to the final evaluation scores.</p>",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1394844,
      "author_name": "Lu Bin Liu",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-07-20T17:04:32.553000",
      "content": "<p>I think that notebook was basically tweaking some parameters to overfit   the public LB </p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1394136,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2021-07-20T07:42:18.700000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": -2,
      "replies": []
    }
  ],
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    "1394007": "Totally agree, but this has been a recurring situation in Kaggle competitions. People post high-scoring notebooks even much closer to the competition deadline. Also, not everything in public notebooks works on private LB, try to take from it whatever you can.",
    "1393944": " I find a notebook,https://www.kaggle.com/somayyehgholami/fork-of-lightgbm-catboost-ann-2505f2, which is public in the end of this competition, i think many team will get high score in PB in low cost. It is unfair for all team!",
    "1394610": "Honestly, I don't think this is a problem. That notebook is bronze in the public LB, but I expect a big shake-up in the private LB.\n\nActually, there are several variations on the same theme available in the public notebooks, differing largely by some tweaks to their parameters.  For what it's worth, I think they are very good codes. \n\nIt's easy to improve one's public score beyond this by playing with the parameters a little more, for example I got 1.3359 with minimal extra effort. It's obvious that many people will see this as overfitting. I certainly don't think that a difference of 0.001 in public LB has any relevance to the final evaluation scores.",
    "1394844": "I think that notebook was basically tweaking some parameters to overfit   the public LB ",
    "1394136": ""
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}