{
  "id": 502245,
  "title": "Alpha Fold 3 allowed by the rules of the competition?",
  "url": "/competitions/leash-BELKA/discussion/502245",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-05-12T17:47:43.684069500Z",
  "votes": null,
  "comment_count": 3,
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  "content": "<p>Alpha Fold 3, Google's best model was launched a few days ago. Are we allowed to use that in the competition? if so, how? do anybody have a torrent version of that model.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2809403",
      "postDate": "05/12/2024 17:47:43",
      "content": "<p>Alpha Fold 3, Google's best model was launched a few days ago. Are we allowed to use that in the competition? if so, how? do anybody have a torrent version of that model.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Alpha Fold 3, Google's best model was launched a few days ago. Are we allowed to use that in the competition? if so, how? do anybody have a torrent version of that model.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2809696",
      "postDate": "05/12/2024 23:16:02",
      "content": "<p>It's my personal opinion that AlphaFold Server (which is the only way to use AlphaFold 3? I'm not sure) would be allowed by the kaggle rules, but seems pretty clearly DISALLOWED by their own terms of use:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>Terms of use and attribution<br>\n  AlphaFold Server is for non-commercial use only, subject to AlphaFold Server Terms of Service. AlphaFold Server output cannot be used in docking or screening tools or to train machine learning models or related technology for biomolecular structure prediction similar to AlphaFold Server.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Non-commercial is fine I would think, but I really can't imagine claiming to use it for this competition in a way that isn't for docking or screening or machine learning models or related technology.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It's my personal opinion that AlphaFold Server (which is the only way to use AlphaFold 3? I'm not sure) would be allowed by the kaggle rules, but seems pretty clearly DISALLOWED by their own terms of use:\n\n> Terms of use and attribution\nAlphaFold Server is for non-commercial use only, subject to AlphaFold Server Terms of Service. AlphaFold Server output cannot be used in docking or screening tools or to train machine learning models or related technology for biomolecular structure prediction similar to AlphaFold Server.\n\nNon-commercial is fine I would think, but I really can't imagine claiming to use it for this competition in a way that isn't for docking or screening or machine learning models or related technology.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2809843",
      "postDate": "05/13/2024 03:02:51",
      "content": "<p>That's helpful. So, nobody from the alphafold team would be able to enter this competition ? That's also a random question. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "That's helpful. So, nobody from the alphafold team would be able to enter this competition ? That's also a random question.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2813469",
      "postDate": "05/14/2024 19:07:40",
      "content": "<p>Neither the code nor the weights for AlphaFold 3 are available, and it will stay that way for months. The server used to be limited to 10 jobs a day and seems like they increased it to 20. That would get you nowhere fast given the number of protein-ligand combinations that must be tested in this competition.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Neither the code nor the weights for AlphaFold 3 are available, and it will stay that way for months. The server used to be limited to 10 jobs a day and seems like they increased it to 20. That would get you nowhere fast given the number of protein-ligand combinations that must be tested in this competition.",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2809696,
      "author_name": "roberthatch",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/12/2024 23:16:02",
      "content": "<p>It's my personal opinion that AlphaFold Server (which is the only way to use AlphaFold 3? I'm not sure) would be allowed by the kaggle rules, but seems pretty clearly DISALLOWED by their own terms of use:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>Terms of use and attribution<br>\n  AlphaFold Server is for non-commercial use only, subject to AlphaFold Server Terms of Service. AlphaFold Server output cannot be used in docking or screening tools or to train machine learning models or related technology for biomolecular structure prediction similar to AlphaFold Server.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Non-commercial is fine I would think, but I really can't imagine claiming to use it for this competition in a way that isn't for docking or screening or machine learning models or related technology.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2809843,
          "author_name": "sircausticmail",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "05/13/2024 03:02:51",
          "content": "<p>That's helpful. So, nobody from the alphafold team would be able to enter this competition ? That's also a random question. </p>",
          "votes": null,
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        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2813469,
      "author_name": "tilii7",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "05/14/2024 19:07:40",
      "content": "<p>Neither the code nor the weights for AlphaFold 3 are available, and it will stay that way for months. The server used to be limited to 10 jobs a day and seems like they increased it to 20. That would get you nowhere fast given the number of protein-ligand combinations that must be tested in this competition.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "2809403": "Alpha Fold 3, Google's best model was launched a few days ago. Are we allowed to use that in the competition? if so, how? do anybody have a torrent version of that model.",
    "2809696": "It's my personal opinion that AlphaFold Server (which is the only way to use AlphaFold 3? I'm not sure) would be allowed by the kaggle rules, but seems pretty clearly DISALLOWED by their own terms of use:\n\n> Terms of use and attribution\nAlphaFold Server is for non-commercial use only, subject to AlphaFold Server Terms of Service. AlphaFold Server output cannot be used in docking or screening tools or to train machine learning models or related technology for biomolecular structure prediction similar to AlphaFold Server.\n\nNon-commercial is fine I would think, but I really can't imagine claiming to use it for this competition in a way that isn't for docking or screening or machine learning models or related technology.",
    "2809843": "That's helpful. So, nobody from the alphafold team would be able to enter this competition ? That's also a random question.",
    "2813469": "Neither the code nor the weights for AlphaFold 3 are available, and it will stay that way for months. The server used to be limited to 10 jobs a day and seems like they increased it to 20. That would get you nowhere fast given the number of protein-ligand combinations that must be tested in this competition."
  },
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}