{
  "id": 100520,
  "title": "Why no medals?",
  "url": "/competitions/kuzushiji-recognition/discussion/100520",
  "author_name": "pocket",
  "post_date": "2019-07-19T01:57:12.738000",
  "votes": 52,
  "comment_count": 10,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>I am sure that a lot of (especially Japanese) Kagglers have been looking forward to this competition. <br>\nWhy no medals? We all know that competitions with medals attract way more competitors, thus improving the quality of the solution.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 579577,
      "postDate": "2019-07-19T01:57:12.737Z",
      "content": "<p>I am sure that a lot of (especially Japanese) Kagglers have been looking forward to this competition. <br>\nWhy no medals? We all know that competitions with medals attract way more competitors, thus improving the quality of the solution.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I am sure that a lot of (especially Japanese) Kagglers have been looking forward to this competition.  \nWhy no medals? We all know that competitions with medals attract way more competitors, thus improving the quality of the solution.",
      "votes": 52
    },
    {
      "id": 579650,
      "postDate": "2019-07-19T04:11:44.013Z",
      "content": "<p>For me kaggle is more about education and farming exp in DS than cash, but medals (even bronze) could be one of the main motivation to participate in similar competitions for me and other begginers. Motivation -&gt; hard work -&gt; success. <br>\nIMHO all competitions should have medals)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "For me kaggle is more about education and farming exp in DS than cash, but medals (even bronze) could be one of the main motivation to participate in similar competitions for me and other begginers. Motivation -&gt; hard work -&gt; success.  \nIMHO all competitions should have medals)",
      "votes": 9
    },
    {
      "id": 579592,
      "postDate": "2019-07-19T02:24:40.263Z",
      "content": "<p>This is the third time kaggle is launching a playground competition with cash prize.\nThe first two were,\nPartly Sunny with a Chance of Hashtags ($500)\nSpooky author identification ($25k)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This is the third time kaggle is launching a playground competition with cash prize.\nThe first two were,\nPartly Sunny with a Chance of Hashtags ($500)\nSpooky author identification ($25k)",
      "votes": 8
    },
    {
      "id": 579614,
      "postDate": "2019-07-19T03:12:27.090Z",
      "content": "<p>Due to scraping grandmasters?\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/discussion/97499#latest-578128\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/discussion/97499#latest-578128</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Due to scraping grandmasters?\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/discussion/97499#latest-578128",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 579646,
          "postDate": "2019-07-19T03:58:32.167Z",
          "content": "<p>I read through the thread, but i still don't know where the X5 meme comes from?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "I read through the thread, but i still don't know where the X5 meme comes from?"
        },
        {
          "id": 579699,
          "postDate": "2019-07-19T06:06:01.140Z",
          "content": "<p>Look close and dig into their profiles to understand where(and why) X5 thing started</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Look close and dig into their profiles to understand where(and why) X5 thing started",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 580336,
          "postDate": "2019-07-20T02:33:16.013Z",
          "content": "<p>x5 is basically 5 people who work together, but not on a team so they get 5x submissions. With each submission they probe the private test set and are able to get a bit of information each time. They get more info than 1 person probing. Maybe in the end they just form a team and split the rewards? or they go for solo golds, i don't know too much</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "x5 is basically 5 people who work together, but not on a team so they get 5x submissions. With each submission they probe the private test set and are able to get a bit of information each time. They get more info than 1 person probing. Maybe in the end they just form a team and split the rewards? or they go for solo golds, i don't know too much",
          "votes": 2
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 582047,
      "postDate": "2019-07-22T17:43:53.990Z",
      "content": "<p>This is legit not an easy one I would say compared to Generative dog competition. Secondly, the metrics are better defined compared to Generative dog competition. On that competition people just make GANs that \"memorize\" the data, hence \"breaking\" the metric without contributing to the main \"objective\" of the competition. But for this one I don't see any possible loop holes right now except possible leaks(I don't know any leaks I just mention the possibility). I guess this competition deserve medal.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This is legit not an easy one I would say compared to Generative dog competition. Secondly, the metrics are better defined compared to Generative dog competition. On that competition people just make GANs that \"memorize\" the data, hence \"breaking\" the metric without contributing to the main \"objective\" of the competition. But for this one I don't see any possible loop holes right now except possible leaks(I don't know any leaks I just mention the possibility). I guess this competition deserve medal.",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 582593,
      "postDate": "2019-07-23T11:01:14.460Z",
      "content": "<p>wow</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "wow"
    },
    {
      "id": 580229,
      "postDate": "2019-07-19T21:33:08.903Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "votes": -2,
      "isDeleted": true,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 580921,
          "postDate": "2019-07-21T04:26:14.427Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/batuhan35\">@batuhan35</a> Competitions are hosted on a paid basis by organising company. So why should them not have a prize money?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@batuhan35 Competitions are hosted on a paid basis by organising company. So why should them not have a prize money?"
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 579650,
      "author_name": "Kupchanski",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-07-19T04:11:44.013000",
      "content": "<p>For me kaggle is more about education and farming exp in DS than cash, but medals (even bronze) could be one of the main motivation to participate in similar competitions for me and other begginers. Motivation -&gt; hard work -&gt; success. <br>\nIMHO all competitions should have medals)</p>",
      "votes": 9,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 579592,
      "author_name": "Shahules",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-07-19T02:24:40.263000",
      "content": "<p>This is the third time kaggle is launching a playground competition with cash prize.\nThe first two were,\nPartly Sunny with a Chance of Hashtags ($500)\nSpooky author identification ($25k)</p>",
      "votes": 8,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 579614,
      "author_name": "ONODERA",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-07-19T03:12:27.090000",
      "content": "<p>Due to scraping grandmasters?\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/discussion/97499#latest-578128\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/discussion/97499#latest-578128</a></p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 579646,
          "author_name": "xhlulu",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-07-19T03:58:32.167000",
          "content": "<p>I read through the thread, but i still don't know where the X5 meme comes from?</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 579699,
          "author_name": "Bibek",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-07-19T06:06:01.140000",
          "content": "<p>Look close and dig into their profiles to understand where(and why) X5 thing started</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 580336,
          "author_name": "sh",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-07-20T02:33:16.013000",
          "content": "<p>x5 is basically 5 people who work together, but not on a team so they get 5x submissions. With each submission they probe the private test set and are able to get a bit of information each time. They get more info than 1 person probing. Maybe in the end they just form a team and split the rewards? or they go for solo golds, i don't know too much</p>",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 582047,
      "author_name": "banzai",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-07-22T17:43:53.990000",
      "content": "<p>This is legit not an easy one I would say compared to Generative dog competition. Secondly, the metrics are better defined compared to Generative dog competition. On that competition people just make GANs that \"memorize\" the data, hence \"breaking\" the metric without contributing to the main \"objective\" of the competition. But for this one I don't see any possible loop holes right now except possible leaks(I don't know any leaks I just mention the possibility). I guess this competition deserve medal.</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 582593,
      "author_name": "kimchiwoong",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-07-23T11:01:14.460000",
      "content": "<p>wow</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 580229,
      "author_name": "",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2019-07-19T21:33:08.903000",
      "content": "",
      "votes": -2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 580921,
          "author_name": "Kurian Benoy",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2019-07-21T04:26:14.427000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"/batuhan35\">@batuhan35</a> Competitions are hosted on a paid basis by organising company. So why should them not have a prize money?</p>",
          "votes": 0,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "579577": "I am sure that a lot of (especially Japanese) Kagglers have been looking forward to this competition.  \nWhy no medals? We all know that competitions with medals attract way more competitors, thus improving the quality of the solution.",
    "579650": "For me kaggle is more about education and farming exp in DS than cash, but medals (even bronze) could be one of the main motivation to participate in similar competitions for me and other begginers. Motivation -&gt; hard work -&gt; success.  \nIMHO all competitions should have medals)",
    "579592": "This is the third time kaggle is launching a playground competition with cash prize.\nThe first two were,\nPartly Sunny with a Chance of Hashtags ($500)\nSpooky author identification ($25k)",
    "579614": "Due to scraping grandmasters?\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-acr-pneumothorax-segmentation/discussion/97499#latest-578128",
    "582047": "This is legit not an easy one I would say compared to Generative dog competition. Secondly, the metrics are better defined compared to Generative dog competition. On that competition people just make GANs that \"memorize\" the data, hence \"breaking\" the metric without contributing to the main \"objective\" of the competition. But for this one I don't see any possible loop holes right now except possible leaks(I don't know any leaks I just mention the possibility). I guess this competition deserve medal.",
    "582593": "wow",
    "580229": ""
  }
}