{
  "id": 165745,
  "title": "Output meaning/format",
  "url": "/competitions/kddbr-2020/discussion/165745",
  "author_name": "Leonardo Maffei da Silva",
  "post_date": "2020-07-11T01:29:24.217000",
  "votes": 4,
  "comment_count": 6,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>In the <em>Overview</em> section its said:  </p>\n\n<h3>The goal is to predict the number of cars entering and leaving each of the two status, for each of the four shifts in a day, for one week ahead.</h3>\n\n<p>However regarding to output format the <em>Data</em> section says:</p>\n\n<h3>The output variables consist of a set of 16 (sixteen) columns, representing each of the 7 (seven) days ahead of the tuple date, 4 (four) shifts a day and 4 (four) status transitions a day, two for each status (entering or leaving)</h3>\n\n<p>So 16 columns are expected but what exactly does each columns represent? It's not clear to me yet. (should I predict for the day of 'today\" also therefore summing to 8 days?).</p>\n\n<p>Finally, the outrput format made me confuse:\n <img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1441360%2F00ba9f7b4a4b3003187e46550233f61b%2Fconfusion.png?generation=1594430413627480&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"output-format\"></p>\n\n<p>What is a \"<strong>combination of days shifts/ status transition</strong>\"?\nFinally, the final submission format of <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/marlesson/simple-pytorch-model\">that notebook</a> seems to me different from the pattern described.</p>\n\n<p>Thanks in advance.</p>",
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    {
      "id": 924518,
      "postDate": "2020-07-11T13:37:53.167Z",
      "content": "<p>Hi maffei2443,</p>\n\n<p>You need to predict 112 variables per date. It's 112 = 7 (Days ahead) * 4 (shifts) * 2 (states) * <strong>2</strong> (transactions - entering or leaving).</p>\n\n<p>The output format in the submission file needs to be:\n <code>&lt;id&gt;_output_&lt;k&gt;_&lt;d&gt;</code></p>\n\n<p>Where, id is a register ID.. K is combination that shifts, states and transactions (entering or leavng) and could be 1 to 16 and d is days ahead and could  be 0 to 6</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi maffei2443,\n\nYou need to predict 112 variables per date. It's 112 = 7 (Days ahead) * 4 (shifts) * 2 (states) * **2** (transactions - entering or leaving).\n\nThe output format in the submission file needs to be:\n `",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 926642,
          "postDate": "2020-07-12T20:17:38.170Z",
          "content": "<p>Thanks for replying.\nHowever I don't understand yet:\n 1.  what is a \"shift\"? Are they represented by the contiguous dark green arrows?</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>Are  the \"states\" you refer to \"available\" and \"unavailable\"? </li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>I understand that for each day there must be 4 * 2 * 2 = <strong>16 columns</strong>, eacho one a combination?. Still, I do not unserstand the meaning of the output format, <strong>specifically the combination of day/status transitions</strong>. What would be an example of \"combination\"?</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for replying.\nHowever I don't understand yet:\n 1.  what is a \"shift\"? Are they represented by the contiguous dark green arrows?\n\n2. Are  the \"states\" you refer to \"available\" and \"unavailable\"? \n\nI understand that for each day there must be 4 * 2 * 2 = **16 columns**, eacho one a combination?. Still, I do not unserstand the meaning of the output format, **specifically the combination of day/status transitions**. What would be an example of \"combination\"?",
          "votes": 1
        },
        {
          "id": 926739,
          "postDate": "2020-07-13T00:30:46.937Z",
          "content": "<p>&gt; what is a \"shift\"? Are they represented by the contiguous dark green arrows?</p>\n\n<p>Day \"shifts\" are \"morning\", \"evening\", \"afternoon\" and \"night\"</p>\n\n<p>&gt; Are the \"states\" you refer to \"available\" and \"unavailable\"?</p>\n\n<p>yes</p>\n\n<p>&gt; What would be an example of \"combination\"?</p>\n\n<p>Each day, we have 16 combinations of values... because, we have 4 shifts [morning, evening, afternoon, night], 2 states [available,  unavailable] and 2 transitions [entering , leaving].. so, I think like this:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>output_1_1 = <strong>Entering</strong> *<em>available</em>* in the <strong>morning</strong></li>\n<li>output_2_1 = <strong>Leaving</strong> *<em>available</em>* in the <strong>morning</strong></li>\n<li>output_3_1 = <strong>Entering</strong> *<em>unavailable</em>* in the <strong>morning</strong></li>\n<li>output_4_1 = <strong>Leaving</strong> *<em>unavailable</em>* in the <strong>morning</strong></li>\n<li>output_5_1 = <strong>Entering</strong> *<em>available</em>* in the <strong>evening</strong></li>\n<li>output_6_1 = <strong>Leaving</strong> *<em>available</em>* in the <strong>evening</strong></li>\n<li>output_7_1 = <strong>Entering</strong> *<em>unavailable</em>* in the <strong>evening</strong></li>\n<li>output_8_1 = <strong>Leaving</strong> *<em>unavailable</em>* in the <strong>evening</strong>\n....</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>OBS: This explanation is my opinion because in the original text does not explain what is \"Combination of days/status transitions\"</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "&gt; what is a \"shift\"? Are they represented by the contiguous dark green arrows?\n\nDay \"shifts\" are \"morning\", \"evening\", \"afternoon\" and \"night\"\n\n&gt; Are the \"states\" you refer to \"available\" and \"unavailable\"?\n\nyes\n\n&gt; What would be an example of \"combination\"?\n\nEach day, we have 16 combinations of values... because, we have 4 shifts [morning, evening, afternoon, night], 2 states [available,  unavailable] and 2 transitions [entering , leaving].. so, I think like this:\n\n* output\\_1\\_1 = **Entering** **available** in the **morning**\n* output\\_2\\_1 = **Leaving** **available** in the **morning**\n* output\\_3\\_1 = **Entering** **unavailable** in the **morning**\n* output\\_4\\_1 = **Leaving** **unavailable** in the **morning**\n* output\\_5\\_1 = **Entering** **available** in the **evening**\n* output\\_6\\_1 = **Leaving** **available** in the **evening**\n* output\\_7\\_1 = **Entering** **unavailable** in the **evening**\n* output\\_8\\_1 = **Leaving** **unavailable** in the **evening**\n....\n\n\n\nOBS: This explanation is my opinion because in the original text does not explain what is \"Combination of days/status transitions\"\n",
          "votes": 3
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 923566,
      "postDate": "2020-07-11T01:29:24.217Z",
      "content": "<p>In the <em>Overview</em> section its said:  </p>\n\n<h3>The goal is to predict the number of cars entering and leaving each of the two status, for each of the four shifts in a day, for one week ahead.</h3>\n\n<p>However regarding to output format the <em>Data</em> section says:</p>\n\n<h3>The output variables consist of a set of 16 (sixteen) columns, representing each of the 7 (seven) days ahead of the tuple date, 4 (four) shifts a day and 4 (four) status transitions a day, two for each status (entering or leaving)</h3>\n\n<p>So 16 columns are expected but what exactly does each columns represent? It's not clear to me yet. (should I predict for the day of 'today\" also therefore summing to 8 days?).</p>\n\n<p>Finally, the outrput format made me confuse:\n <img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1441360%2F00ba9f7b4a4b3003187e46550233f61b%2Fconfusion.png?generation=1594430413627480&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"output-format\"></p>\n\n<p>What is a \"<strong>combination of days shifts/ status transition</strong>\"?\nFinally, the final submission format of <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/marlesson/simple-pytorch-model\">that notebook</a> seems to me different from the pattern described.</p>\n\n<p>Thanks in advance.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "In the *Overview* section its said:  \n\n### The goal is to predict the number of cars entering and leaving each of the two status, for each of the four shifts in a day, for one week ahead.\n\nHowever regarding to output format the *Data* section says:\n\n### The output variables consist of a set of 16 (sixteen) columns, representing each of the 7 (seven) days ahead of the tuple date, 4 (four) shifts a day and 4 (four) status transitions a day, two for each status (entering or leaving)\n\nSo 16 columns are expected but what exactly does each columns represent? It's not clear to me yet. (should I predict for the day of 'today\" also therefore summing to 8 days?).\n\nFinally, the outrput format made me confuse:\n ![output-format](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1441360%2F00ba9f7b4a4b3003187e46550233f61b%2Fconfusion.png?generation=1594430413627480&amp;alt=media)\n\nWhat is a \"**combination of days shifts/ status transition**\"?\nFinally, the final submission format of [that notebook](https://www.kaggle.com/marlesson/simple-pytorch-model) seems to me different from the pattern described.\n\nThanks in advance.",
      "votes": 4
    },
    {
      "id": 929476,
      "postDate": "2020-07-14T17:35:05.273Z",
      "content": "<p>I will check the information with the data owners, but I think Marlesson is right in his interpretation.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I will check the information with the data owners, but I think Marlesson is right in his interpretation.",
      "votes": 1
    },
    {
      "id": 977248,
      "postDate": "2020-08-19T11:24:43.467Z",
      "content": "<p>The data owners have confirmed that Marlesson's interpretation is right.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The data owners have confirmed that Marlesson's interpretation is right."
    },
    {
      "id": 973969,
      "postDate": "2020-08-17T16:29:20.303Z",
      "rawMarkdown": "",
      "votes": 1,
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 924518,
      "author_name": "Marlesson",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-07-11T13:37:53.167000",
      "content": "<p>Hi maffei2443,</p>\n\n<p>You need to predict 112 variables per date. It's 112 = 7 (Days ahead) * 4 (shifts) * 2 (states) * <strong>2</strong> (transactions - entering or leaving).</p>\n\n<p>The output format in the submission file needs to be:\n <code>&lt;id&gt;_output_&lt;k&gt;_&lt;d&gt;</code></p>\n\n<p>Where, id is a register ID.. K is combination that shifts, states and transactions (entering or leavng) and could be 1 to 16 and d is days ahead and could  be 0 to 6</p>",
      "votes": 3,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 926642,
          "author_name": "Leonardo Maffei da Silva",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-07-12T20:17:38.170000",
          "content": "<p>Thanks for replying.\nHowever I don't understand yet:\n 1.  what is a \"shift\"? Are they represented by the contiguous dark green arrows?</p>\n\n<ol>\n<li>Are  the \"states\" you refer to \"available\" and \"unavailable\"? </li>\n</ol>\n\n<p>I understand that for each day there must be 4 * 2 * 2 = <strong>16 columns</strong>, eacho one a combination?. Still, I do not unserstand the meaning of the output format, <strong>specifically the combination of day/status transitions</strong>. What would be an example of \"combination\"?</p>",
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        {
          "id": 926739,
          "author_name": "Marlesson",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2020-07-13T00:30:46.937000",
          "content": "<p>&gt; what is a \"shift\"? Are they represented by the contiguous dark green arrows?</p>\n\n<p>Day \"shifts\" are \"morning\", \"evening\", \"afternoon\" and \"night\"</p>\n\n<p>&gt; Are the \"states\" you refer to \"available\" and \"unavailable\"?</p>\n\n<p>yes</p>\n\n<p>&gt; What would be an example of \"combination\"?</p>\n\n<p>Each day, we have 16 combinations of values... because, we have 4 shifts [morning, evening, afternoon, night], 2 states [available,  unavailable] and 2 transitions [entering , leaving].. so, I think like this:</p>\n\n<ul>\n<li>output_1_1 = <strong>Entering</strong> *<em>available</em>* in the <strong>morning</strong></li>\n<li>output_2_1 = <strong>Leaving</strong> *<em>available</em>* in the <strong>morning</strong></li>\n<li>output_3_1 = <strong>Entering</strong> *<em>unavailable</em>* in the <strong>morning</strong></li>\n<li>output_4_1 = <strong>Leaving</strong> *<em>unavailable</em>* in the <strong>morning</strong></li>\n<li>output_5_1 = <strong>Entering</strong> *<em>available</em>* in the <strong>evening</strong></li>\n<li>output_6_1 = <strong>Leaving</strong> *<em>available</em>* in the <strong>evening</strong></li>\n<li>output_7_1 = <strong>Entering</strong> *<em>unavailable</em>* in the <strong>evening</strong></li>\n<li>output_8_1 = <strong>Leaving</strong> *<em>unavailable</em>* in the <strong>evening</strong>\n....</li>\n</ul>\n\n<p>OBS: This explanation is my opinion because in the original text does not explain what is \"Combination of days/status transitions\"</p>",
          "votes": 3,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 929476,
      "author_name": "AnaCarolinaLorena",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-07-14T17:35:05.273000",
      "content": "<p>I will check the information with the data owners, but I think Marlesson is right in his interpretation.</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": []
    },
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      "id": 977248,
      "author_name": "AnaCarolinaLorena",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2020-08-19T11:24:43.467000",
      "content": "<p>The data owners have confirmed that Marlesson's interpretation is right.</p>",
      "votes": 0,
      "replies": []
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      "id": 973969,
      "author_name": "",
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      "post_date": "2020-08-17T16:29:20.303000",
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    "924518": "Hi maffei2443,\n\nYou need to predict 112 variables per date. It's 112 = 7 (Days ahead) * 4 (shifts) * 2 (states) * **2** (transactions - entering or leaving).\n\nThe output format in the submission file needs to be:\n `",
    "923566": "In the *Overview* section its said:  \n\n### The goal is to predict the number of cars entering and leaving each of the two status, for each of the four shifts in a day, for one week ahead.\n\nHowever regarding to output format the *Data* section says:\n\n### The output variables consist of a set of 16 (sixteen) columns, representing each of the 7 (seven) days ahead of the tuple date, 4 (four) shifts a day and 4 (four) status transitions a day, two for each status (entering or leaving)\n\nSo 16 columns are expected but what exactly does each columns represent? It's not clear to me yet. (should I predict for the day of 'today\" also therefore summing to 8 days?).\n\nFinally, the outrput format made me confuse:\n ![output-format](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-user-content/o/inbox%2F1441360%2F00ba9f7b4a4b3003187e46550233f61b%2Fconfusion.png?generation=1594430413627480&amp;alt=media)\n\nWhat is a \"**combination of days shifts/ status transition**\"?\nFinally, the final submission format of [that notebook](https://www.kaggle.com/marlesson/simple-pytorch-model) seems to me different from the pattern described.\n\nThanks in advance.",
    "929476": "I will check the information with the data owners, but I think Marlesson is right in his interpretation.",
    "977248": "The data owners have confirmed that Marlesson's interpretation is right.",
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