{
  "id": 316580,
  "title": "0.50 with a single model?",
  "url": "/competitions/kaggle-pog-series-s01e02/discussion/316580",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2022-04-02T18:24:28.820827900Z",
  "votes": 3,
  "comment_count": 14,
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  "content": "<p>Helo,</p>\n<p>I am new to compeittion and I am a bit stuck. My CV and LB is consistent.</p>\n<p>When I do 5-fold my score decreases. I am not sure what is happening. I want to understand if anyone got 0.5+ with a single model here?</p>",
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    {
      "id": "1743209",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 18:24:28",
      "content": "<p>Helo,</p>\n<p>I am new to compeittion and I am a bit stuck. My CV and LB is consistent.</p>\n<p>When I do 5-fold my score decreases. I am not sure what is happening. I want to understand if anyone got 0.5+ with a single model here?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Helo,\n\nI am new to compeittion and I am a bit stuck. My CV and LB is consistent.\n\nWhen I do 5-fold my score decreases. I am not sure what is happening. I want to understand if anyone got 0.5+ with a single model here?",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": "1743294",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 20:35:02",
      "content": "<p>Yes. I can get a score &gt; 0.5 with a single model </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yes. I can get a score > 0.5 with a single model",
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    {
      "id": "1743298",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 20:40:23",
      "content": "<p>Can you please suggest changes I should do to improve my score, I am a student I don't want to win I just want to learn.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Can you please suggest changes I should do to improve my score, I am a student I don't want to win I just want to learn.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1743301",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 20:52:59",
      "content": "<p>I tried using VGG19, Resnet50, EfficientNetB0 as my models on the spectrogram just like the public notebook of yours. But I am never able to cross 0.46.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I tried using VGG19, Resnet50, EfficientNetB0 as my models on the spectrogram just like the public notebook of yours. But I am never able to cross 0.46.",
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    },
    {
      "id": "1743302",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 20:53:25",
      "content": "<p>Do you have some base notebook that I can suggest changes? For me personally,  an image classification model (for example a resnext50) trainning on spectrogram can give you &gt; 0.5 score. You can take a look at my nb here: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/dienhoa/fastai-pogchamp-music-genre-classification\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/dienhoa/fastai-pogchamp-music-genre-classification</a> . I think just training a little bit longer can give you a better score</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Do you have some base notebook that I can suggest changes? For me personally,  an image classification model (for example a resnext50) trainning on spectrogram can give you > 0.5 score. You can take a look at my nb here: https://www.kaggle.com/code/dienhoa/fastai-pogchamp-music-genre-classification . I think just training a little bit longer can give you a better score",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": "1743304",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 20:55:38",
      "content": "<p>What is your score in CV ? In that case, you can try some augmentation to make your model more robust on the LB, mixup, cropping your audio, changing the loudness, …</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "What is your score in CV ? In that case, you can try some augmentation to make your model more robust on the LB, mixup, cropping your audio, changing the loudness, ...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1743307",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 20:58:44",
      "content": "<p>Thank you so much for your suggestion of ResNext50. I am following <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/harveenchadha\" target=\"_blank\">@harveenchadha</a> baseline notebook as I can understand keras much better but I am not sure what all I can tune in that notebook.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/harveenchadha/pog-1-spect-2d-cnn-keras-baseline\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/harveenchadha/pog-1-spect-2d-cnn-keras-baseline</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thank you so much for your suggestion of ResNext50. I am following @harveenchadha baseline notebook as I can understand keras much better but I am not sure what all I can tune in that notebook.\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/harveenchadha/pog-1-spect-2d-cnn-keras-baseline",
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    {
      "id": "1743308",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 21:00:42",
      "content": "<p>My CV is in line with LB I think. My accuracy is nearly equal to CV score. I am not able to understand how CV accuracy and LB f-1 score are correlated either.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "My CV is in line with LB I think. My accuracy is nearly equal to CV score. I am not able to understand how CV accuracy and LB f-1 score are correlated either.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1743309",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 21:00:50",
      "content": "<p>Let's try what I've just said. I'm sure in keras you can do all of these stuffs</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Let's try what I've just said. I'm sure in keras you can do all of these stuffs",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1743310",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 21:03:31",
      "content": "<p>For single label classification, I think f1-micro is equivalent to accuracy <a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37358496/is-f1-micro-the-same-as-accuracy#:~:text=4%20Answers&amp;text=is%20not%20useful-,Show%20activity%20on%20this%20post.,case%20in%20multi-label%20classification\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37358496/is-f1-micro-the-same-as-accuracy#:~:text=4%20Answers&amp;text=is%20not%20useful-,Show%20activity%20on%20this%20post.,case%20in%20multi-label%20classification</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "For single label classification, I think f1-micro is equivalent to accuracy https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37358496/is-f1-micro-the-same-as-accuracy#:~:text=4%20Answers&text=is%20not%20useful-,Show%20activity%20on%20this%20post.,case%20in%20multi-label%20classification",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1743311",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 21:05:05",
      "content": "<p>Thank you, i will keep on experimenting and will post the results here. the LB calculation metric is not macro F-1?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thank you, i will keep on experimenting and will post the results here. the LB calculation metric is not macro F-1?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1743313",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 21:07:01",
      "content": "<p>No, it's f1 micro: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/kaggle-pog-series-s01e02/discussion/313286\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/kaggle-pog-series-s01e02/discussion/313286</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "No, it's f1 micro: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/kaggle-pog-series-s01e02/discussion/313286",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1743315",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 21:08:07",
      "content": "<p>Thank you so much, all this time I was focusing on macro-F1. Thanks again for your help!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thank you so much, all this time I was focusing on macro-F1. Thanks again for your help!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1743321",
      "postDate": "04/02/2022 21:13:27",
      "content": "<p>I'm glad to help :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I'm glad to help :)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1744328",
      "postDate": "04/03/2022 21:39:18",
      "content": "<p>I just tried to replace custom architecture with effnet in my public notebook and scored 0.50+ , so in short it is possible.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I just tried to replace custom architecture with effnet in my public notebook and scored 0.50+ , so in short it is possible.",
      "votes": null
    }
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    {
      "id": 1743294,
      "author_name": "dienhoa",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/02/2022 20:35:02",
      "content": "<p>Yes. I can get a score &gt; 0.5 with a single model </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1743298,
          "author_name": "rahultiwari1995",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 20:40:23",
          "content": "<p>Can you please suggest changes I should do to improve my score, I am a student I don't want to win I just want to learn.</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        {
          "id": 1743301,
          "author_name": "rahultiwari1995",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 20:52:59",
          "content": "<p>I tried using VGG19, Resnet50, EfficientNetB0 as my models on the spectrogram just like the public notebook of yours. But I am never able to cross 0.46.</p>",
          "votes": null,
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          "id": 1743302,
          "author_name": "dienhoa",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 20:53:25",
          "content": "<p>Do you have some base notebook that I can suggest changes? For me personally,  an image classification model (for example a resnext50) trainning on spectrogram can give you &gt; 0.5 score. You can take a look at my nb here: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/dienhoa/fastai-pogchamp-music-genre-classification\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/dienhoa/fastai-pogchamp-music-genre-classification</a> . I think just training a little bit longer can give you a better score</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        {
          "id": 1743304,
          "author_name": "dienhoa",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 20:55:38",
          "content": "<p>What is your score in CV ? In that case, you can try some augmentation to make your model more robust on the LB, mixup, cropping your audio, changing the loudness, …</p>",
          "votes": null,
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          "id": 1743307,
          "author_name": "rahultiwari1995",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 20:58:44",
          "content": "<p>Thank you so much for your suggestion of ResNext50. I am following <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/harveenchadha\" target=\"_blank\">@harveenchadha</a> baseline notebook as I can understand keras much better but I am not sure what all I can tune in that notebook.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/harveenchadha/pog-1-spect-2d-cnn-keras-baseline\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/harveenchadha/pog-1-spect-2d-cnn-keras-baseline</a></p>",
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          "id": 1743308,
          "author_name": "rahultiwari1995",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 21:00:42",
          "content": "<p>My CV is in line with LB I think. My accuracy is nearly equal to CV score. I am not able to understand how CV accuracy and LB f-1 score are correlated either.</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        {
          "id": 1743309,
          "author_name": "dienhoa",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 21:00:50",
          "content": "<p>Let's try what I've just said. I'm sure in keras you can do all of these stuffs</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1743310,
          "author_name": "dienhoa",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 21:03:31",
          "content": "<p>For single label classification, I think f1-micro is equivalent to accuracy <a href=\"https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37358496/is-f1-micro-the-same-as-accuracy#:~:text=4%20Answers&amp;text=is%20not%20useful-,Show%20activity%20on%20this%20post.,case%20in%20multi-label%20classification\" target=\"_blank\">https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37358496/is-f1-micro-the-same-as-accuracy#:~:text=4%20Answers&amp;text=is%20not%20useful-,Show%20activity%20on%20this%20post.,case%20in%20multi-label%20classification</a></p>",
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          "id": 1743311,
          "author_name": "rahultiwari1995",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 21:05:05",
          "content": "<p>Thank you, i will keep on experimenting and will post the results here. the LB calculation metric is not macro F-1?</p>",
          "votes": null,
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        {
          "id": 1743313,
          "author_name": "dienhoa",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 21:07:01",
          "content": "<p>No, it's f1 micro: <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/kaggle-pog-series-s01e02/discussion/313286\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/kaggle-pog-series-s01e02/discussion/313286</a></p>",
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        {
          "id": 1743315,
          "author_name": "rahultiwari1995",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 21:08:07",
          "content": "<p>Thank you so much, all this time I was focusing on macro-F1. Thanks again for your help!</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1743321,
          "author_name": "dienhoa",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "04/02/2022 21:13:27",
          "content": "<p>I'm glad to help :)</p>",
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      "id": 1744328,
      "author_name": "harveenchadha",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "04/03/2022 21:39:18",
      "content": "<p>I just tried to replace custom architecture with effnet in my public notebook and scored 0.50+ , so in short it is possible.</p>",
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    "1743209": "Helo,\n\nI am new to compeittion and I am a bit stuck. My CV and LB is consistent.\n\nWhen I do 5-fold my score decreases. I am not sure what is happening. I want to understand if anyone got 0.5+ with a single model here?",
    "1743294": "Yes. I can get a score > 0.5 with a single model",
    "1743298": "Can you please suggest changes I should do to improve my score, I am a student I don't want to win I just want to learn.",
    "1743301": "I tried using VGG19, Resnet50, EfficientNetB0 as my models on the spectrogram just like the public notebook of yours. But I am never able to cross 0.46.",
    "1743302": "Do you have some base notebook that I can suggest changes? For me personally,  an image classification model (for example a resnext50) trainning on spectrogram can give you > 0.5 score. You can take a look at my nb here: https://www.kaggle.com/code/dienhoa/fastai-pogchamp-music-genre-classification . I think just training a little bit longer can give you a better score",
    "1743304": "What is your score in CV ? In that case, you can try some augmentation to make your model more robust on the LB, mixup, cropping your audio, changing the loudness, ...",
    "1743307": "Thank you so much for your suggestion of ResNext50. I am following @harveenchadha baseline notebook as I can understand keras much better but I am not sure what all I can tune in that notebook.\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/harveenchadha/pog-1-spect-2d-cnn-keras-baseline",
    "1743308": "My CV is in line with LB I think. My accuracy is nearly equal to CV score. I am not able to understand how CV accuracy and LB f-1 score are correlated either.",
    "1743309": "Let's try what I've just said. I'm sure in keras you can do all of these stuffs",
    "1743310": "For single label classification, I think f1-micro is equivalent to accuracy https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37358496/is-f1-micro-the-same-as-accuracy#:~:text=4%20Answers&text=is%20not%20useful-,Show%20activity%20on%20this%20post.,case%20in%20multi-label%20classification",
    "1743311": "Thank you, i will keep on experimenting and will post the results here. the LB calculation metric is not macro F-1?",
    "1743313": "No, it's f1 micro: https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/kaggle-pog-series-s01e02/discussion/313286",
    "1743315": "Thank you so much, all this time I was focusing on macro-F1. Thanks again for your help!",
    "1743321": "I'm glad to help :)",
    "1744328": "I just tried to replace custom architecture with effnet in my public notebook and scored 0.50+ , so in short it is possible."
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