{
  "id": 562435,
  "title": "Visualizing the churn across updates ",
  "url": "/competitions/jane-street-real-time-market-data-forecasting/discussion/562435",
  "author_name": "Ravi Ramakrishnan",
  "post_date": "2025-02-11T16:50:55.975000",
  "votes": 15,
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  "content": "<p>Hello all,</p>\n<p>We have a leaderboard update as on date and the figure below delves into the regions of interest - </p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F8273630%2F3d1016a50f4068553b6cde6d26f35aa5%2Flb.png?generation=1739291463939495&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><br>The leaderboard looks surprisingly stable across the first and second update and we find the below interesting regions - </p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Region label</th>\n<th>Description</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>R1</td>\n<td>* This region illustrates the top 10% participants in the competition that remained stable across the 2 updates. This region is quick thick, indicating good stability! Congratulations to these participants for the stable performance</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>R2</td>\n<td>* This region illustrates the participants falling off the perch in this update from a top 10% public LB position in the previous update <br> * This is one of the key areas to consider in forecasting competitions!</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>R3</td>\n<td>* This region illustrates the participants rising in the private leaderboard by beating the churn! Congratulations for the performance and hope for the best!</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>R4</td>\n<td>* We have a few ranking clusters here, I have illustrated a couple of them for your perusal. Are these off a public kernel?</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<h2>Analysis of the top 10% teams for stability</h2>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Medal zone label</th>\n<th>Last rank</th>\n<th>Comments</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Gold medal</td>\n<td>17</td>\n<td>* Stable teams =  15 <br> * Entering from below = 2</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Silver medal</td>\n<td>187</td>\n<td>* Stable teams = 127  <br> * Entering from below = 40 <br> * Entering from above =  3</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Bronze medal</td>\n<td>375</td>\n<td>* Stable teams = 107  <br> * Entering from below = 49 <br> * Entering from above = 32</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<p>The table above corroborates the stability across the updates! Surprised??</p>\n<h2>Other adjutant observations</h2>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Observation</th>\n<th>Public LB rank</th>\n<th>Private LB rank</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>* Highest upward movement across the leaderboards - overall</td>\n<td>1588</td>\n<td>137</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>* Highest downward movement across the leaderboards - overall</td>\n<td>54</td>\n<td>2066</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>* Highest upward movement across the leaderboards and finishing in R1</td>\n<td>298</td>\n<td>50</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>* Highest downward movement across the leaderboards and finishing in R1</td>\n<td>56</td>\n<td>302</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<p>Finally, wishing you the best for the future updates, happy learning and best regards! For those in R2, please note that we have a number of updates remaining and you could still make it across the 5 months remaining!</p>\n<p>All the best!</p>\n<p>Regards,<br>\nRavi Ramakrishnan</p>",
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      "id": 3121495,
      "postDate": "2025-02-11T16:50:55.977Z",
      "content": "<p>Hello all,</p>\n<p>We have a leaderboard update as on date and the figure below delves into the regions of interest - </p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F8273630%2F3d1016a50f4068553b6cde6d26f35aa5%2Flb.png?generation=1739291463939495&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>\n<p><br>The leaderboard looks surprisingly stable across the first and second update and we find the below interesting regions - </p>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Region label</th>\n<th>Description</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>R1</td>\n<td>* This region illustrates the top 10% participants in the competition that remained stable across the 2 updates. This region is quick thick, indicating good stability! Congratulations to these participants for the stable performance</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>R2</td>\n<td>* This region illustrates the participants falling off the perch in this update from a top 10% public LB position in the previous update <br> * This is one of the key areas to consider in forecasting competitions!</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>R3</td>\n<td>* This region illustrates the participants rising in the private leaderboard by beating the churn! Congratulations for the performance and hope for the best!</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>R4</td>\n<td>* We have a few ranking clusters here, I have illustrated a couple of them for your perusal. Are these off a public kernel?</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<h2>Analysis of the top 10% teams for stability</h2>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Medal zone label</th>\n<th>Last rank</th>\n<th>Comments</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>Gold medal</td>\n<td>17</td>\n<td>* Stable teams =  15 <br> * Entering from below = 2</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Silver medal</td>\n<td>187</td>\n<td>* Stable teams = 127  <br> * Entering from below = 40 <br> * Entering from above =  3</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Bronze medal</td>\n<td>375</td>\n<td>* Stable teams = 107  <br> * Entering from below = 49 <br> * Entering from above = 32</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<p>The table above corroborates the stability across the updates! Surprised??</p>\n<h2>Other adjutant observations</h2>\n<table>\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th>Observation</th>\n<th>Public LB rank</th>\n<th>Private LB rank</th>\n</tr>\n</thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>* Highest upward movement across the leaderboards - overall</td>\n<td>1588</td>\n<td>137</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>* Highest downward movement across the leaderboards - overall</td>\n<td>54</td>\n<td>2066</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>* Highest upward movement across the leaderboards and finishing in R1</td>\n<td>298</td>\n<td>50</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td>* Highest downward movement across the leaderboards and finishing in R1</td>\n<td>56</td>\n<td>302</td>\n</tr>\n</tbody>\n</table>\n<p>Finally, wishing you the best for the future updates, happy learning and best regards! For those in R2, please note that we have a number of updates remaining and you could still make it across the 5 months remaining!</p>\n<p>All the best!</p>\n<p>Regards,<br>\nRavi Ramakrishnan</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hello all,\n\nWe have a leaderboard update as on date and the figure below delves into the regions of interest - \n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F8273630%2F3d1016a50f4068553b6cde6d26f35aa5%2Flb.png?generation=1739291463939495&alt=media)\n\n<br>The leaderboard looks surprisingly stable across the first and second update and we find the below interesting regions - \n\n| Region label | Description |\n| --- | --- | \n| R1 |  * This region illustrates the top 10% participants in the competition that remained stable across the 2 updates. This region is quick thick, indicating good stability! Congratulations to these participants for the stable performance |\n| R2 |  * This region illustrates the participants falling off the perch in this update from a top 10% public LB position in the previous update <br> * This is one of the key areas to consider in forecasting competitions! |\n| R3 |  * This region illustrates the participants rising in the private leaderboard by beating the churn! Congratulations for the performance and hope for the best! |\n| R4 |  * We have a few ranking clusters here, I have illustrated a couple of them for your perusal. Are these off a public kernel? |\n\n## Analysis of the top 10% teams for stability\n\n| Medal zone label | Last rank  | Comments | \n| --- | --- | ----- | \n| Gold medal   | 17 | * Stable teams =  15 <br> * Entering from below = 2 | \n| Silver medal  | 187| * Stable teams = 127  <br> * Entering from below = 40 <br> * Entering from above =  3| \n| Bronze medal  | 375| * Stable teams = 107  <br> * Entering from below = 49 <br> * Entering from above = 32  |\n\nThe table above corroborates the stability across the updates! Surprised??\n\n## Other adjutant observations\n\n| Observation | Public LB rank  | Private LB rank | \n| --- | --- | ---- | \n| * Highest upward movement across the leaderboards - overall | 1588 | 137 | \n| * Highest downward movement across the leaderboards - overall |  54|  2066| \n| * Highest upward movement across the leaderboards and finishing in R1 | 298 | 50 | \n| * Highest downward movement across the leaderboards and finishing in R1 | 56 | 302 | \n\nFinally, wishing you the best for the future updates, happy learning and best regards! For those in R2, please note that we have a number of updates remaining and you could still make it across the 5 months remaining!\n\nAll the best!\n\nRegards,\nRavi Ramakrishnan",
      "votes": 15
    }
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    "3121495": "Hello all,\n\nWe have a leaderboard update as on date and the figure below delves into the regions of interest - \n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F8273630%2F3d1016a50f4068553b6cde6d26f35aa5%2Flb.png?generation=1739291463939495&alt=media)\n\n<br>The leaderboard looks surprisingly stable across the first and second update and we find the below interesting regions - \n\n| Region label | Description |\n| --- | --- | \n| R1 |  * This region illustrates the top 10% participants in the competition that remained stable across the 2 updates. This region is quick thick, indicating good stability! Congratulations to these participants for the stable performance |\n| R2 |  * This region illustrates the participants falling off the perch in this update from a top 10% public LB position in the previous update <br> * This is one of the key areas to consider in forecasting competitions! |\n| R3 |  * This region illustrates the participants rising in the private leaderboard by beating the churn! Congratulations for the performance and hope for the best! |\n| R4 |  * We have a few ranking clusters here, I have illustrated a couple of them for your perusal. Are these off a public kernel? |\n\n## Analysis of the top 10% teams for stability\n\n| Medal zone label | Last rank  | Comments | \n| --- | --- | ----- | \n| Gold medal   | 17 | * Stable teams =  15 <br> * Entering from below = 2 | \n| Silver medal  | 187| * Stable teams = 127  <br> * Entering from below = 40 <br> * Entering from above =  3| \n| Bronze medal  | 375| * Stable teams = 107  <br> * Entering from below = 49 <br> * Entering from above = 32  |\n\nThe table above corroborates the stability across the updates! Surprised??\n\n## Other adjutant observations\n\n| Observation | Public LB rank  | Private LB rank | \n| --- | --- | ---- | \n| * Highest upward movement across the leaderboards - overall | 1588 | 137 | \n| * Highest downward movement across the leaderboards - overall |  54|  2066| \n| * Highest upward movement across the leaderboards and finishing in R1 | 298 | 50 | \n| * Highest downward movement across the leaderboards and finishing in R1 | 56 | 302 | \n\nFinally, wishing you the best for the future updates, happy learning and best regards! For those in R2, please note that we have a number of updates remaining and you could still make it across the 5 months remaining!\n\nAll the best!\n\nRegards,\nRavi Ramakrishnan"
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