{
  "id": 555401,
  "title": "Submission time variability: What the hell with the scoring servers?",
  "url": "/competitions/jane-street-real-time-market-data-forecasting/discussion/555401",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2025-01-07T06:00:36.085017200Z",
  "votes": 15,
  "comment_count": 10,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Submissions which took 3 hours 2 days ago take more than 9 hours today. What the hell is happening with Kaggle?</p>\n<p>Or has the test set been silently enlarged 3x?</p>\n<p>Will it look like this in the forecasting phase, random people will time-out because of infrastructure problems and infrastructure variability?</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "3090307",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 06:00:36",
      "content": "<p>Submissions which took 3 hours 2 days ago take more than 9 hours today. What the hell is happening with Kaggle?</p>\n<p>Or has the test set been silently enlarged 3x?</p>\n<p>Will it look like this in the forecasting phase, random people will time-out because of infrastructure problems and infrastructure variability?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Submissions which took 3 hours 2 days ago take more than 9 hours today. What the hell is happening with Kaggle?\n\nOr has the test set been silently enlarged 3x?\n\nWill it look like this in the forecasting phase, random people will time-out because of infrastructure problems and infrastructure variability?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090355",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 07:21:31",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Submissions which took 3 hours 2 days ago take more than 9 hours today.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Similar situation, so hard to test and debug in this terrible online environment.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": ">Submissions which took 3 hours 2 days ago take more than 9 hours today.\n\nSimilar situation, so hard to test and debug in this terrible online environment.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090382",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 07:47:44",
      "content": "<p>It is impossible to test the running time now. Almost all submissions took about a whole day to finish.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It is impossible to test the running time now. Almost all submissions took about a whole day to finish.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090419",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 09:11:41",
      "content": "<p>LOL took my GPU Accelerator allowance too fast too.  Have one safe approach using a non-gpu dependent submission to at least land on the leaderboard.  Have seen this happen many times.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/jazivxt/the-market-is-reactive-part-2\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/jazivxt/the-market-is-reactive-part-2</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "LOL took my GPU Accelerator allowance too fast too.  Have one safe approach using a non-gpu dependent submission to at least land on the leaderboard.  Have seen this happen many times.\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/jazivxt/the-market-is-reactive-part-2",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090470",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 10:42:55",
      "content": "<p>Please, we need someone to have a look at the 'Notebook timeout' issue.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Please, we need someone to have a look at the 'Notebook timeout' issue.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090583",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 13:21:42",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/dabrowski\" target=\"_blank\">@dabrowski</a> , thank you for your raising that topic here. I am facing the same issue and my submission took more than time limit of this competition, 8hrs. However the submission itself was success and got the score without time out error 🤔 In that case, can we consider actual run time is not exceeding the time limit from competition rule or should we select the solution which can be score within 8 hrs under current condition? </p>\n<p>I appreciate if some of you share your thought about that 🙏</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5570457%2Fe47daa05c6d969e13eff4fd6d2e09224%2F2025-01-07_22h16_25.png?generation=1736255829979233&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "dabrowski , thank you for your raising that topic here. I am facing the same issue and my submission took more than time limit of this competition, 8hrs. However the submission itself was success and got the score without time out error 🤔 In that case, can we consider actual run time is not exceeding the time limit from competition rule or should we select the solution which can be score within 8 hrs under current condition? \n\nI appreciate if some of you share your thought about that 🙏\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5570457%2Fe47daa05c6d969e13eff4fd6d2e09224%2F2025-01-07_22h16_25.png?generation=1736255829979233&alt=media)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090617",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 13:53:28",
      "content": "<p>all my submissions are now an overnight job 😬</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "all my submissions are now an overnight job 😬",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090618",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 13:54:54",
      "content": "<p>I really enjoyed your post on zhihu about the \"独特的发现\" a couple years ago, thanks for the post!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I really enjoyed your post on zhihu about the \"独特的发现\" a couple years ago, thanks for the post!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090624",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 13:56:11",
      "content": "<p>As the competition approaches towards the end, many participants are submitting at the same time. I believe this has heavily overwhelmed the server, and thus each submission has to queue for a long time until getting to run and score. </p>\n<p>If you trust your kenel to be finished within, i.e. 3 hrs but it actually took 10hrs (or more) to score, that implies the queue time is 7 hrs. </p>\n<p>In this case, your submission won't get time-out as the actually run time remains 3 hrs. </p>\n<p>I hope my theory is correct. I would draw the attention of <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ryanholbrook\" target=\"_blank\">@ryanholbrook</a> . An official reply would be appreciated. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "As the competition approaches towards the end, many participants are submitting at the same time. I believe this has heavily overwhelmed the server, and thus each submission has to queue for a long time until getting to run and score. \n\nIf you trust your kenel to be finished within, i.e. 3 hrs but it actually took 10hrs (or more) to score, that implies the queue time is 7 hrs. \n\nIn this case, your submission won't get time-out as the actually run time remains 3 hrs. \n\nI hope my theory is correct. I would draw the attention of @ryanholbrook . An official reply would be appreciated.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090819",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 17:27:21",
      "content": "<p>Yes even you are using KaggleApi you could not get when your sub is actually running for you could always only get pending status before you get completed.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yes even you are using KaggleApi you could not get when your sub is actually running for you could always only get pending status before you get completed.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "3090828",
      "postDate": "01/07/2025 17:33:33",
      "content": "<p>Please see <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/jane-street-real-time-market-data-forecasting/discussion/555505\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/jane-street-real-time-market-data-forecasting/discussion/555505</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Please see https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/jane-street-real-time-market-data-forecasting/discussion/555505",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 3090355,
      "author_name": "sweetyheehee",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/07/2025 07:21:31",
      "content": "<blockquote>\n  <p>Submissions which took 3 hours 2 days ago take more than 9 hours today.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Similar situation, so hard to test and debug in this terrible online environment.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 3090382,
      "author_name": "yuanzhezhou",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/07/2025 07:47:44",
      "content": "<p>It is impossible to test the running time now. Almost all submissions took about a whole day to finish.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3090618,
          "author_name": "alexmason11",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "01/07/2025 13:54:54",
          "content": "<p>I really enjoyed your post on zhihu about the \"独特的发现\" a couple years ago, thanks for the post!</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 3090419,
      "author_name": "jazivxt",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/07/2025 09:11:41",
      "content": "<p>LOL took my GPU Accelerator allowance too fast too.  Have one safe approach using a non-gpu dependent submission to at least land on the leaderboard.  Have seen this happen many times.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/jazivxt/the-market-is-reactive-part-2\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/jazivxt/the-market-is-reactive-part-2</a></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 3090470,
      "author_name": "abdonson",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/07/2025 10:42:55",
      "content": "<p>Please, we need someone to have a look at the 'Notebook timeout' issue.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 3090583,
      "author_name": "hechtjp",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/07/2025 13:21:42",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/dabrowski\" target=\"_blank\">@dabrowski</a> , thank you for your raising that topic here. I am facing the same issue and my submission took more than time limit of this competition, 8hrs. However the submission itself was success and got the score without time out error 🤔 In that case, can we consider actual run time is not exceeding the time limit from competition rule or should we select the solution which can be score within 8 hrs under current condition? </p>\n<p>I appreciate if some of you share your thought about that 🙏</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5570457%2Fe47daa05c6d969e13eff4fd6d2e09224%2F2025-01-07_22h16_25.png?generation=1736255829979233&amp;alt=media\" alt=\"\"></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 3090617,
      "author_name": "alexmason11",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/07/2025 13:53:28",
      "content": "<p>all my submissions are now an overnight job 😬</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 3090624,
      "author_name": "shiyili",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/07/2025 13:56:11",
      "content": "<p>As the competition approaches towards the end, many participants are submitting at the same time. I believe this has heavily overwhelmed the server, and thus each submission has to queue for a long time until getting to run and score. </p>\n<p>If you trust your kenel to be finished within, i.e. 3 hrs but it actually took 10hrs (or more) to score, that implies the queue time is 7 hrs. </p>\n<p>In this case, your submission won't get time-out as the actually run time remains 3 hrs. </p>\n<p>I hope my theory is correct. I would draw the attention of <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ryanholbrook\" target=\"_blank\">@ryanholbrook</a> . An official reply would be appreciated. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 3090819,
          "author_name": "goldenlock",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "01/07/2025 17:27:21",
          "content": "<p>Yes even you are using KaggleApi you could not get when your sub is actually running for you could always only get pending status before you get completed.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 3090828,
      "author_name": "sohier",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "01/07/2025 17:33:33",
      "content": "<p>Please see <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/jane-street-real-time-market-data-forecasting/discussion/555505\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/jane-street-real-time-market-data-forecasting/discussion/555505</a></p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    }
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    "3090307": "Submissions which took 3 hours 2 days ago take more than 9 hours today. What the hell is happening with Kaggle?\n\nOr has the test set been silently enlarged 3x?\n\nWill it look like this in the forecasting phase, random people will time-out because of infrastructure problems and infrastructure variability?",
    "3090355": ">Submissions which took 3 hours 2 days ago take more than 9 hours today.\n\nSimilar situation, so hard to test and debug in this terrible online environment.",
    "3090382": "It is impossible to test the running time now. Almost all submissions took about a whole day to finish.",
    "3090419": "LOL took my GPU Accelerator allowance too fast too.  Have one safe approach using a non-gpu dependent submission to at least land on the leaderboard.  Have seen this happen many times.\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/code/jazivxt/the-market-is-reactive-part-2",
    "3090470": "Please, we need someone to have a look at the 'Notebook timeout' issue.",
    "3090583": "dabrowski , thank you for your raising that topic here. I am facing the same issue and my submission took more than time limit of this competition, 8hrs. However the submission itself was success and got the score without time out error 🤔 In that case, can we consider actual run time is not exceeding the time limit from competition rule or should we select the solution which can be score within 8 hrs under current condition? \n\nI appreciate if some of you share your thought about that 🙏\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F5570457%2Fe47daa05c6d969e13eff4fd6d2e09224%2F2025-01-07_22h16_25.png?generation=1736255829979233&alt=media)",
    "3090617": "all my submissions are now an overnight job 😬",
    "3090618": "I really enjoyed your post on zhihu about the \"独特的发现\" a couple years ago, thanks for the post!",
    "3090624": "As the competition approaches towards the end, many participants are submitting at the same time. I believe this has heavily overwhelmed the server, and thus each submission has to queue for a long time until getting to run and score. \n\nIf you trust your kenel to be finished within, i.e. 3 hrs but it actually took 10hrs (or more) to score, that implies the queue time is 7 hrs. \n\nIn this case, your submission won't get time-out as the actually run time remains 3 hrs. \n\nI hope my theory is correct. I would draw the attention of @ryanholbrook . An official reply would be appreciated.",
    "3090819": "Yes even you are using KaggleApi you could not get when your sub is actually running for you could always only get pending status before you get completed.",
    "3090828": "Please see https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/jane-street-real-time-market-data-forecasting/discussion/555505"
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