Hello,\nI have gone through the PDF document and few discussion threads.\nHas anyone found a way that to identify type1,2,3 for humans, some sort of rules/guidelines.
\n\nRight now, as a human, I find it difficult to classify. A zoomed out type 1 can be type 3.
", "messages": [ { "id": "169264", "postDate": "03/20/2017 10:13:49", "content": "Hello,\nI have gone through the PDF document and few discussion threads.\nHas anyone found a way that to identify type1,2,3 for humans, some sort of rules/guidelines.
\n\nRight now, as a human, I find it difficult to classify. A zoomed out type 1 can be type 3.
", "rawMarkdown": "Hello,\nI have gone through the PDF document and few discussion threads.\nHas anyone found a way that to identify type1,2,3 for humans, some sort of rules/guidelines.\n\nRight now, as a human, I find it difficult to classify. A zoomed out type 1 can be type 3.", "votes": null }, { "id": "169269", "postDate": "03/20/2017 10:39:33", "content": "Hi!
\n\nVERY short \"tutorial\":
\n\nThe key element is the transformation zone. Here 2 types of skin figths: \"regular\", multilayer skin that is found in vagina and \"special\" unilayer skin that is found in uterus. This fighting zone is the source of the cancer. This fighting zone doesn't look special to visual inspection (or at least to an untrained eye like myself). It is a pink skin like the rest of the tissue.
You have to detect if the transformation zone enters the Os (enters inside the uterus).
The unilayer skin appears as a red zone because you can see blood vessels underneath.
KEY OBSERVATION 1: When you see the whole Os surrounded by unilayer tissue is type 1, REGARDLESS of how small or big that area is.
KEY OBSERVATION 2: When you see NONE of the unilayer tissue is type 3. That is, all you can see is normal tissue (pink-ish)
Type 2 is the one where you can see \"regular looking\" skin entering the uterus. Tough to decide between type 1 and 2.
There are lesions, there is mucus, there are blurred pictures, there is bloood, there are lesions already present, that looks like unilayer skin, so this problem is tougher than it looks.
\n\nWhen I will have some more time, maybe a proper tutorial with pictures!
\n\nGood luck!
\n\np.s. Unless there is something obstructing the view, type 1 vs type 3 should be trivial for human eye.
", "rawMarkdown": "Hi!\n\nVERY short \"tutorial\":\n\n * The key element is the transformation zone. Here 2 types of skin figths: \"regular\", multilayer skin that is found in vagina and \"special\" unilayer skin that is found in uterus. This fighting zone is the source of the cancer. This fighting zone doesn't look special to visual inspection (or at least to an untrained eye like myself). It is a pink skin like the rest of the tissue.\n\n * You have to detect if the transformation zone enters the Os (enters inside the uterus). \n\n * The unilayer skin appears as a red zone because you can see blood vessels underneath. \n\n * KEY OBSERVATION 1: When you see the whole Os surrounded by unilayer tissue is type 1, REGARDLESS of how small or big that area is.\n\n * KEY OBSERVATION 2: When you see NONE of the unilayer tissue is type 3. That is, all you can see is normal tissue (pink-ish)\n\n * Type 2 is the one where you can see \"regular looking\" skin entering the uterus. Tough to decide between type 1 and 2.\n\nThere are lesions, there is mucus, there are blurred pictures, there is bloood, there are lesions already present, that looks like unilayer skin, so this problem is tougher than it looks.\n\nWhen I will have some more time, maybe a proper tutorial with pictures! \n\nGood luck!\n\np.s. Unless there is something obstructing the view, type 1 vs type 3 should be trivial for human eye.", "votes": null }, { "id": "169295", "postDate": "03/20/2017 12:55:47", "content": "Hi,
\n\nThanks, with your explanation (uni-layer vs multi-layer) Type 1 vs Type 2 seems easier than identifying Type1 vs Type 2.
\n\nLooking forward to your proper tutorial.
\n\nThanks!
", "rawMarkdown": "Hi,\n\nThanks, with your explanation (uni-layer vs multi-layer) Type 1 vs Type 2 seems easier than identifying Type1 vs Type 2.\n\nLooking forward to your proper tutorial.\n\nThanks!", "votes": null }, { "id": "169616", "postDate": "03/21/2017 18:58:51", "content": "I showed this summary to an obgyn resident I know and she said it was basically perfect!
", "rawMarkdown": "I showed this summary to an obgyn resident I know and she said it was basically perfect!", "votes": null }, { "id": "169635", "postDate": "03/21/2017 21:03:36", "content": "Thanx!
", "rawMarkdown": "Thanx!", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 169269, "author_name": "visoft", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/20/2017 10:39:33", "content": "Hi!
\n\nVERY short \"tutorial\":
\n\nThe key element is the transformation zone. Here 2 types of skin figths: \"regular\", multilayer skin that is found in vagina and \"special\" unilayer skin that is found in uterus. This fighting zone is the source of the cancer. This fighting zone doesn't look special to visual inspection (or at least to an untrained eye like myself). It is a pink skin like the rest of the tissue.
You have to detect if the transformation zone enters the Os (enters inside the uterus).
The unilayer skin appears as a red zone because you can see blood vessels underneath.
KEY OBSERVATION 1: When you see the whole Os surrounded by unilayer tissue is type 1, REGARDLESS of how small or big that area is.
KEY OBSERVATION 2: When you see NONE of the unilayer tissue is type 3. That is, all you can see is normal tissue (pink-ish)
Type 2 is the one where you can see \"regular looking\" skin entering the uterus. Tough to decide between type 1 and 2.
There are lesions, there is mucus, there are blurred pictures, there is bloood, there are lesions already present, that looks like unilayer skin, so this problem is tougher than it looks.
\n\nWhen I will have some more time, maybe a proper tutorial with pictures!
\n\nGood luck!
\n\np.s. Unless there is something obstructing the view, type 1 vs type 3 should be trivial for human eye.
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 169295, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/20/2017 12:55:47", "content": "Hi,
\n\nThanks, with your explanation (uni-layer vs multi-layer) Type 1 vs Type 2 seems easier than identifying Type1 vs Type 2.
\n\nLooking forward to your proper tutorial.
\n\nThanks!
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 169616, "author_name": "paulgamble", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/21/2017 18:58:51", "content": "I showed this summary to an obgyn resident I know and she said it was basically perfect!
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 169635, "author_name": "visoft", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/21/2017 21:03:36", "content": "Thanx!
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "169264": "Hello,\nI have gone through the PDF document and few discussion threads.\nHas anyone found a way that to identify type1,2,3 for humans, some sort of rules/guidelines.\n\nRight now, as a human, I find it difficult to classify. A zoomed out type 1 can be type 3.", "169269": "Hi!\n\nVERY short \"tutorial\":\n\n * The key element is the transformation zone. Here 2 types of skin figths: \"regular\", multilayer skin that is found in vagina and \"special\" unilayer skin that is found in uterus. This fighting zone is the source of the cancer. This fighting zone doesn't look special to visual inspection (or at least to an untrained eye like myself). It is a pink skin like the rest of the tissue.\n\n * You have to detect if the transformation zone enters the Os (enters inside the uterus). \n\n * The unilayer skin appears as a red zone because you can see blood vessels underneath. \n\n * KEY OBSERVATION 1: When you see the whole Os surrounded by unilayer tissue is type 1, REGARDLESS of how small or big that area is.\n\n * KEY OBSERVATION 2: When you see NONE of the unilayer tissue is type 3. That is, all you can see is normal tissue (pink-ish)\n\n * Type 2 is the one where you can see \"regular looking\" skin entering the uterus. Tough to decide between type 1 and 2.\n\nThere are lesions, there is mucus, there are blurred pictures, there is bloood, there are lesions already present, that looks like unilayer skin, so this problem is tougher than it looks.\n\nWhen I will have some more time, maybe a proper tutorial with pictures! \n\nGood luck!\n\np.s. Unless there is something obstructing the view, type 1 vs type 3 should be trivial for human eye.", "169295": "Hi,\n\nThanks, with your explanation (uni-layer vs multi-layer) Type 1 vs Type 2 seems easier than identifying Type1 vs Type 2.\n\nLooking forward to your proper tutorial.\n\nThanks!", "169616": "I showed this summary to an obgyn resident I know and she said it was basically perfect!", "169635": "Thanx!" }, "source": "meta" }