{ "id": 11440, "title": "January 7 is abstract submission deadline...", "url": "/competitions/inria-bci-challenge/discussion/11440", "author_name": "", "post_date": "2015-01-06T15:04:23.677Z", "votes": null, "comment_count": 14, "views": 3891, "content": "

Dear all,

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To apply for the prize in this competition (which is organized in the context of the NER2015 conference), you must submit a 1-page abstract to the conference.

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The deadline for 1-page abstract submission to NER2015 is only one day away (Jan 7)...

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The relevant information for submission is here:

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http://neuro.embs.org/2015/papers-and-registration/papers-submission/

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It will lead you to the papercept website http://embs.papercept.net/conferences/scripts/start.pl

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Best regards,

\n

Maureen Clerc

", "messages": [ { "id": "62352", "postDate": "01/06/2015 15:04:23", "content": "

Dear all,

\n

To apply for the prize in this competition (which is organized in the context of the NER2015 conference), you must submit a 1-page abstract to the conference.

\n

The deadline for 1-page abstract submission to NER2015 is only one day away (Jan 7)...

\n

The relevant information for submission is here:

\n

http://neuro.embs.org/2015/papers-and-registration/papers-submission/

\n

It will lead you to the papercept website http://embs.papercept.net/conferences/scripts/start.pl

\n

Best regards,

\n

Maureen Clerc

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "62419", "postDate": "01/07/2015 19:49:11", "content": "

Hi Maucle

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I just have a few questions: What about payment of the conference registration fee? When is that due? I was able to submit the abstract just fine but it didn't ask me for payment.

\n

Thanks,

\n

Vernon

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "62424", "postDate": "01/07/2015 21:00:16", "content": "

Dear Vernon,

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No registration fee is due right now.

\n

Registering to the conference can be done anytime before March 23 with a "advance registration rate".

\n

See http://neuro.embs.org/2015/papers-and-registration/registration-fees-and-details/

\n

I heard from the NER organizers that the winner of the competition (and maybe runner-ups depending on how many end up competing for the prize) would get a 50%  reduction on the registration fee (maybe even totally free for the winner).

\n

I hope many contestants have submitted an abstract - still a few hours to go.

\n

Best regards

\n

          Maureen Clerc

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "62482", "postDate": "01/09/2015 07:17:36", "content": "

Still a few days to go: deadline extended to Jan 19.

\n

Regards

\n

     Maureen Clerc

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "62510", "postDate": "01/09/2015 16:46:03", "content": "

Hi Maureen, I have a couple of questions. Would it be appropriate to submit an abstract by the first deadline and then if I did not finish with a high enough rank to not submit the second abstract? Secondly what is the policy on team mergers? Kaggle allows mergers up until the 17th of February, but the abstract submission asks for number of coauthors. Can this be changed later?

\n

Thanks

\n

Phalaris

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "62532", "postDate": "01/09/2015 20:18:31", "content": "

A word from the organizer will be good on this topic. Indeed, if you go to the last page of the submission process you have to commit to : 

\n

"By uploading this paper I agree to comply with the conference registration policy and to attend the conference and present the paper if my manuscript is accepted.

\n

I understand that, in the event I am unable to attend the conference for any reason, it is my responsibility to insure that the paper is presented at the conference, by one of my co-authors.

\n

I also understand that failure to do so may result in the IEEE EMBS imposing sanctions or restrictions on my and my co-authors' participation in future IEEE EMBS conferences"

\n

I guess you are free to submit something and not attend the conference in case of disappointing results (no one will point a gun at you), but you can be 'flagged' by the IEEE EMBS society. This may be a problem if you regularly attend such conferences.

\n

This is one of the main reason we choose not to submit a paper, but still compete for the leaderboard.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "62540", "postDate": "01/09/2015 23:23:41", "content": "

Since there are two abstracts that need to be submitted, one now, and one after the competition ends, I was wondering whether failure to submit the second one would result in an automatic rejection of manuscript. Since the failure to attend is for accepted manuscripts I was wondering if doing it this way would trigger sanctions. I am not that familiar with manuscript selection for conference, and maybe this idea is inappropriate.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "62546", "postDate": "01/10/2015 01:33:35", "content": "

Generally speaking, you first submit an abstract or a full paper, get reviewed and and accepted (or not), and then you have to submit the final version including modifications asked by the reviewers. 

\n

Since we are talking about 1 page abstract that will be published only the  conference website and not on the proceedings, my guess is that the acceptance threshold will be very low, even more for the challenge related papers, where there is no obvious reason to be rejected.

\n

Your concerns are totally appropriate. The registration fees (and the travel expenses) are quit high, and since it's not a machine learning conference, the 'average kaggler' may not find a lot of benefits to attend (don't get me wrong, the conference is still interesting if you work in BCI or in biomedical engineering). 

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "62597", "postDate": "01/11/2015 00:05:41", "content": "

It would be great if the organizers of the conference allow the authors of the selected papers to extend their works to a 4 page paper to appear in the proceedings and be indexed in the IEEE Xplore.

\n

The papers will be more interesting because it is almost impossible to explain the ideas and the details of the solutions in just 1 page and I am sure that many people that right now are having doubts will send a paper because their work will be more visible.

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "65345", "postDate": "03/03/2015 16:51:09", "content": "

Hi Maureen Clerc,

\n

I was wondering if the winning teams have been contacted yet? If I've understood the rules correctly only those who have submitted an abstract and will be attending NER (indicated by NER in their team name) are eligible for the prizes. Although I finished 4th in the leaderboard, I believe I have the highest score of all teams whose name includes 'NER'. However I haven't received an email confirming this. Apologies If I've misunderstood the rules and I'm not eligible for the prize.

\n

Also, my one page abstract has been accepted and I am now in a position to submit the final version. However, the papercept website won't allow me to upload the final version without paying the full $1,030 registration fee by Friday, March the 6th. You mention that the organisers of NER may grant the prize winners a 50% reduction (and possibly more for the winner) in the fee. I was wondering how the reduction is claimed for? 

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "65354", "postDate": "03/03/2015 19:15:54", "content": "

[quote=barrack_d;65345]

\n

I was wondering if the winning teams have been contacted yet? 

\n

[/quote]

\n

So far, they didn't contact us either. I thought that they only have contacted teams with NER in their names, but it doesn't seems to be the case.

\n

Has anyone been in touch with the organizers ?

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "65364", "postDate": "03/03/2015 22:13:10", "content": "

It's almost a week since the competition ended and we don't know anything yet about the cheater removing, the paper submission, etc...

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "65366", "postDate": "03/03/2015 22:34:12", "content": "

Hi all,

\n

Thanks for your participation! Cheaters were removed last week following the competition close https://www.kaggle.com/c/inria-bci-challenge/forums/t/12613/cheaters-removed

\n

It took us a few days to coordinate with the NER conference organizers. You should hear from the organizers today or tomorrow (depending on your time zone). 

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "65367", "postDate": "03/03/2015 22:39:03", "content": "

Dear Wendy,

\n

In the thread you are mentioning, there's a long discussion regarding the teams named GBM_2015_X. There's evidence enough about they broke the rules. What is your position about that?

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null }, { "id": "65368", "postDate": "03/03/2015 22:46:27", "content": "

OK, Cheers for the heads up Wendy. 

", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 62419, "author_name": "vlawhern", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/07/2015 19:49:11", "content": "

Hi Maucle

\n

I just have a few questions: What about payment of the conference registration fee? When is that due? I was able to submit the abstract just fine but it didn't ask me for payment.

\n

Thanks,

\n

Vernon

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 62424, "author_name": "maucle", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/07/2015 21:00:16", "content": "

Dear Vernon,

\n

No registration fee is due right now.

\n

Registering to the conference can be done anytime before March 23 with a "advance registration rate".

\n

See http://neuro.embs.org/2015/papers-and-registration/registration-fees-and-details/

\n

I heard from the NER organizers that the winner of the competition (and maybe runner-ups depending on how many end up competing for the prize) would get a 50%  reduction on the registration fee (maybe even totally free for the winner).

\n

I hope many contestants have submitted an abstract - still a few hours to go.

\n

Best regards

\n

          Maureen Clerc

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 62482, "author_name": "maucle", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/09/2015 07:17:36", "content": "

Still a few days to go: deadline extended to Jan 19.

\n

Regards

\n

     Maureen Clerc

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 62510, "author_name": "devinanzelmo", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/09/2015 16:46:03", "content": "

Hi Maureen, I have a couple of questions. Would it be appropriate to submit an abstract by the first deadline and then if I did not finish with a high enough rank to not submit the second abstract? Secondly what is the policy on team mergers? Kaggle allows mergers up until the 17th of February, but the abstract submission asks for number of coauthors. Can this be changed later?

\n

Thanks

\n

Phalaris

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 62532, "author_name": "alexandrebarachant", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/09/2015 20:18:31", "content": "

A word from the organizer will be good on this topic. Indeed, if you go to the last page of the submission process you have to commit to : 

\n

"By uploading this paper I agree to comply with the conference registration policy and to attend the conference and present the paper if my manuscript is accepted.

\n

I understand that, in the event I am unable to attend the conference for any reason, it is my responsibility to insure that the paper is presented at the conference, by one of my co-authors.

\n

I also understand that failure to do so may result in the IEEE EMBS imposing sanctions or restrictions on my and my co-authors' participation in future IEEE EMBS conferences"

\n

I guess you are free to submit something and not attend the conference in case of disappointing results (no one will point a gun at you), but you can be 'flagged' by the IEEE EMBS society. This may be a problem if you regularly attend such conferences.

\n

This is one of the main reason we choose not to submit a paper, but still compete for the leaderboard.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 62540, "author_name": "devinanzelmo", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/09/2015 23:23:41", "content": "

Since there are two abstracts that need to be submitted, one now, and one after the competition ends, I was wondering whether failure to submit the second one would result in an automatic rejection of manuscript. Since the failure to attend is for accepted manuscripts I was wondering if doing it this way would trigger sanctions. I am not that familiar with manuscript selection for conference, and maybe this idea is inappropriate.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 62546, "author_name": "alexandrebarachant", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/10/2015 01:33:35", "content": "

Generally speaking, you first submit an abstract or a full paper, get reviewed and and accepted (or not), and then you have to submit the final version including modifications asked by the reviewers. 

\n

Since we are talking about 1 page abstract that will be published only the  conference website and not on the proceedings, my guess is that the acceptance threshold will be very low, even more for the challenge related papers, where there is no obvious reason to be rejected.

\n

Your concerns are totally appropriate. The registration fees (and the travel expenses) are quit high, and since it's not a machine learning conference, the 'average kaggler' may not find a lot of benefits to attend (don't get me wrong, the conference is still interesting if you work in BCI or in biomedical engineering). 

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 62597, "author_name": "robertod", "author_url": "", "post_date": "01/11/2015 00:05:41", "content": "

It would be great if the organizers of the conference allow the authors of the selected papers to extend their works to a 4 page paper to appear in the proceedings and be indexed in the IEEE Xplore.

\n

The papers will be more interesting because it is almost impossible to explain the ideas and the details of the solutions in just 1 page and I am sure that many people that right now are having doubts will send a paper because their work will be more visible.

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 65345, "author_name": "duncanbarrack", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/03/2015 16:51:09", "content": "

Hi Maureen Clerc,

\n

I was wondering if the winning teams have been contacted yet? If I've understood the rules correctly only those who have submitted an abstract and will be attending NER (indicated by NER in their team name) are eligible for the prizes. Although I finished 4th in the leaderboard, I believe I have the highest score of all teams whose name includes 'NER'. However I haven't received an email confirming this. Apologies If I've misunderstood the rules and I'm not eligible for the prize.

\n

Also, my one page abstract has been accepted and I am now in a position to submit the final version. However, the papercept website won't allow me to upload the final version without paying the full $1,030 registration fee by Friday, March the 6th. You mention that the organisers of NER may grant the prize winners a 50% reduction (and possibly more for the winner) in the fee. I was wondering how the reduction is claimed for? 

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 65354, "author_name": "alexandrebarachant", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/03/2015 19:15:54", "content": "

[quote=barrack_d;65345]

\n

I was wondering if the winning teams have been contacted yet? 

\n

[/quote]

\n

So far, they didn't contact us either. I thought that they only have contacted teams with NER in their names, but it doesn't seems to be the case.

\n

Has anyone been in touch with the organizers ?

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 65364, "author_name": "joseleiva", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/03/2015 22:13:10", "content": "

It's almost a week since the competition ended and we don't know anything yet about the cheater removing, the paper submission, etc...

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 65366, "author_name": "wendykan", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/03/2015 22:34:12", "content": "

Hi all,

\n

Thanks for your participation! Cheaters were removed last week following the competition close https://www.kaggle.com/c/inria-bci-challenge/forums/t/12613/cheaters-removed

\n

It took us a few days to coordinate with the NER conference organizers. You should hear from the organizers today or tomorrow (depending on your time zone). 

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 65367, "author_name": "joseleiva", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/03/2015 22:39:03", "content": "

Dear Wendy,

\n

In the thread you are mentioning, there's a long discussion regarding the teams named GBM_2015_X. There's evidence enough about they broke the rules. What is your position about that?

", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 65368, "author_name": "duncanbarrack", "author_url": "", "post_date": "03/03/2015 22:46:27", "content": "

OK, Cheers for the heads up Wendy. 

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