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  "title": "Publication",
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  "post_date": "2014-11-24T21:52:51.793Z",
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  "content": "<p>I'm trying to understand the publication aspect&nbsp;of this contest.</p>\n<p>In the description&nbsp;it says:</p>\n<p>&quot;This BCI Challenge is being proposed as part of the IEEE Neural Engineering Conference (NER2015). Participation is open without restriction, and the winners will be selected among participants who have submitted an abstract to the conference&quot;</p>\n<p>This is&nbsp;troubling, as the deadline for 4 page abstracts is today, and the January deadline for 1 page abstracts is still quite a long time before the end of the competition.</p>\n<p>However, on the NER2015 website, it states that:</p>\n<p>&quot;A BCI challenge will be open mid-November. The 3 best competitors will receive a prize and the winner will be invited to publish a full paper in IEEE TBME.&quot;</p>\n<p>This seems like quite a different thing. Can Kaggle or the organizer please clarify?</p>",
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      "postDate": "11/24/2014 21:52:51",
      "content": "<p>I'm trying to understand the publication aspect&nbsp;of this contest.</p>\n<p>In the description&nbsp;it says:</p>\n<p>&quot;This BCI Challenge is being proposed as part of the IEEE Neural Engineering Conference (NER2015). Participation is open without restriction, and the winners will be selected among participants who have submitted an abstract to the conference&quot;</p>\n<p>This is&nbsp;troubling, as the deadline for 4 page abstracts is today, and the January deadline for 1 page abstracts is still quite a long time before the end of the competition.</p>\n<p>However, on the NER2015 website, it states that:</p>\n<p>&quot;A BCI challenge will be open mid-November. The 3 best competitors will receive a prize and the winner will be invited to publish a full paper in IEEE TBME.&quot;</p>\n<p>This seems like quite a different thing. Can Kaggle or the organizer please clarify?</p>",
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      "postDate": "11/25/2014 08:27:20",
      "content": "<p>I guess the conference's organizers can afford an exceptional track for these three papers, given that they can be peer-reviewed very quickly (if at all). I would not worry about this.</p>",
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      "postDate": "11/25/2014 15:24:01",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Jose M.;58859]</p>\n<p>I guess the conference's organizers can afford an exceptional track for these three papers, given that they can be peer-reviewed very quickly (if at all). I would not worry about this.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>That would be very nice, especially if&nbsp;it would allow us to use the results on the full test set in our papers.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "postDate": "11/27/2014 23:51:39",
      "content": "<p>emolson, to answer you question, it seems that the January 7 deadline is the one relevant to this competition, and it is for initial abstract submission only. February 28 is the deadline for the final abstract. I guess then that they only need a 1-page paper from us. Reference:&nbsp;http://neuro.embs.org/2015/bci-challenge/</p>\n<p>If I am mistaken, please let me know.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "postDate": "12/08/2014 05:46:07",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Ramanuja Simha;59123]</p>\n<p>emolson, to answer you question, it seems that the January 7 deadline is the one relevant to this competition, and it is for initial abstract submission only. February 28 is the deadline for the final abstract. I guess then that they only need a 1-page paper from us. Reference:&nbsp;http://neuro.embs.org/2015/bci-challenge/</p>\n<p>If I am mistaken, please let me know.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>From that page:&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&quot;The competing teams should submit and abstract, present a poster and thus register (at least one person) to NER to apply for prizes ans IEEE TBME submission.&nbsp;A special area within the poster session will be set up and the prizes will be presented to winners during NER conference.&quot;</p>\n<p>I'm confused, in order to claim a prize you must pay the registration fee and attend the conference in&nbsp;France? The competition rules state that you must only submit a paper.</p>",
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      "id": "59840",
      "postDate": "12/08/2014 22:50:07",
      "content": "<p>If that's the case, it seems like this ought to&nbsp;have been an InClass competition.</p>\n<p>$1,030 registration fee for a chance to&nbsp;win $500 prize? I know we don't do this for the money but that's a bit much...</p>\n<p>If we don't register for the conference, will our score count for kaggle rank/achievements?</p>",
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      "postDate": "12/08/2014 23:41:42",
      "content": "<p>[quote=emolson;59840]</p>\n<p>$1,030 registration fee for a chance to&nbsp;win $500 prize? I know we don't do this for the money but that's a bit much...</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>But I hear they have great cheese.</p>",
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      "id": "59875",
      "postDate": "12/09/2014 09:25:48",
      "content": "<p>That's what I got from the organisers as a clarification of this.</p>\n<p><em>You can already go on kaggle and try to compete freely without any constraint but if you want to be ranked at the end and apply for getting a prize you should submit an abstract of your contribution by january 7th and thus propose the final abstract after the deadline of the BCI competition. Then you will have to present a poster to the conference and thus register (at least one person in your team). all the participant who register and propose an abstract are eligible to the prizes and the IEEE TBME full journal publication.</em></p>",
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      "id": "59900",
      "postDate": "12/09/2014 19:54:13",
      "content": "<p>It is correct that you have to present a poster/paper at the conference to claim the prize.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>However, if you win, and don't feel like claiming the prize&nbsp;for whatever reason, you will still be able to up your Kaggle ranking. You will not get the cash prize and will not get recognition from the organizer.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "author_name": "joseleiva",
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      "post_date": "11/25/2014 08:27:20",
      "content": "<p>I guess the conference's organizers can afford an exceptional track for these three papers, given that they can be peer-reviewed very quickly (if at all). I would not worry about this.</p>",
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      "author_name": "emolson",
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      "post_date": "11/25/2014 15:24:01",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Jose M.;58859]</p>\n<p>I guess the conference's organizers can afford an exceptional track for these three papers, given that they can be peer-reviewed very quickly (if at all). I would not worry about this.</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>That would be very nice, especially if&nbsp;it would allow us to use the results on the full test set in our papers.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "author_name": "ramanujasimha",
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      "post_date": "11/27/2014 23:51:39",
      "content": "<p>emolson, to answer you question, it seems that the January 7 deadline is the one relevant to this competition, and it is for initial abstract submission only. February 28 is the deadline for the final abstract. I guess then that they only need a 1-page paper from us. Reference:&nbsp;http://neuro.embs.org/2015/bci-challenge/</p>\n<p>If I am mistaken, please let me know.&nbsp;</p>",
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      "id": 59762,
      "author_name": "tdevries",
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      "post_date": "12/08/2014 05:46:07",
      "content": "<p>[quote=Ramanuja Simha;59123]</p>\n<p>emolson, to answer you question, it seems that the January 7 deadline is the one relevant to this competition, and it is for initial abstract submission only. February 28 is the deadline for the final abstract. I guess then that they only need a 1-page paper from us. Reference:&nbsp;http://neuro.embs.org/2015/bci-challenge/</p>\n<p>If I am mistaken, please let me know.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>From that page:&nbsp;</p>\n<p>&quot;The competing teams should submit and abstract, present a poster and thus register (at least one person) to NER to apply for prizes ans IEEE TBME submission.&nbsp;A special area within the poster session will be set up and the prizes will be presented to winners during NER conference.&quot;</p>\n<p>I'm confused, in order to claim a prize you must pay the registration fee and attend the conference in&nbsp;France? The competition rules state that you must only submit a paper.</p>",
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      "id": 59840,
      "author_name": "emolson",
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      "post_date": "12/08/2014 22:50:07",
      "content": "<p>If that's the case, it seems like this ought to&nbsp;have been an InClass competition.</p>\n<p>$1,030 registration fee for a chance to&nbsp;win $500 prize? I know we don't do this for the money but that's a bit much...</p>\n<p>If we don't register for the conference, will our score count for kaggle rank/achievements?</p>",
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      "id": 59844,
      "author_name": "inversion",
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      "post_date": "12/08/2014 23:41:42",
      "content": "<p>[quote=emolson;59840]</p>\n<p>$1,030 registration fee for a chance to&nbsp;win $500 prize? I know we don't do this for the money but that's a bit much...</p>\n<p>[/quote]</p>\n<p>But I hear they have great cheese.</p>",
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      "id": 59875,
      "author_name": "davidevaleriani",
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      "post_date": "12/09/2014 09:25:48",
      "content": "<p>That's what I got from the organisers as a clarification of this.</p>\n<p><em>You can already go on kaggle and try to compete freely without any constraint but if you want to be ranked at the end and apply for getting a prize you should submit an abstract of your contribution by january 7th and thus propose the final abstract after the deadline of the BCI competition. Then you will have to present a poster to the conference and thus register (at least one person in your team). all the participant who register and propose an abstract are eligible to the prizes and the IEEE TBME full journal publication.</em></p>",
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      "id": 59900,
      "author_name": "wendykan",
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      "post_date": "12/09/2014 19:54:13",
      "content": "<p>It is correct that you have to present a poster/paper at the conference to claim the prize.&nbsp;</p>\n<p>However, if you win, and don't feel like claiming the prize&nbsp;for whatever reason, you will still be able to up your Kaggle ranking. You will not get the cash prize and will not get recognition from the organizer.&nbsp;</p>",
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