@backaggle mentioned in a comment
\n\n\n\n\nWhat happens if they do not select the submission/kernel that they are violated?. \n If they drop their position in stage 2, it shows that they are scared the justice and select the non-cheating versions. \n I cant wait to see the final result :)
\n
And it seems he's right. They didnt submit a solution using the external data but they could use it in a different way like many other have mentioned. \nHOW CAN JUSTICE BE ACHIEVED ?
", "messages": [ { "id": "549629", "postDate": "06/10/2019 22:22:08", "content": "@backaggle mentioned in a comment
\n\n\n\n\nWhat happens if they do not select the submission/kernel that they are violated?. \n If they drop their position in stage 2, it shows that they are scared the justice and select the non-cheating versions. \n I cant wait to see the final result :)
\n
And it seems he's right. They didnt submit a solution using the external data but they could use it in a different way like many other have mentioned. \nHOW CAN JUSTICE BE ACHIEVED ?
", "rawMarkdown": "backaggle mentioned in a comment\n> What happens if they do not select the submission/kernel that they are violated?. \nIf they drop their position in stage 2, it shows that they are scared the justice and select the non-cheating versions. \nI cant wait to see the final result :)\n\nAnd it seems he's right. They didnt submit a solution using the external data but they could use it in a different way like many other have mentioned. \nHOW CAN JUSTICE BE ACHIEVED ?", "votes": null }, { "id": "549685", "postDate": "06/10/2019 23:55:12", "content": "We are all waiting for an official conclusion of what happened on the public LB!
", "rawMarkdown": "We are all waiting for an official conclusion of what happened on the public LB!", "votes": null }, { "id": "549734", "postDate": "06/11/2019 01:35:07", "content": "Non-cheating kernels were selected\nHow do you know that?
Private LB is correlated to the public one.\nthe socres of some teams dropped from 0.7+ to 0.67- how can explain that?
", "rawMarkdown": "Private LB is correlated to the public one.\nthe socres of some teams dropped from 0.7+ to 0.67- how can explain that?", "votes": null }, { "id": "549750", "postDate": "06/11/2019 02:04:07", "content": "I think if it is just normal overfitting to public LB, then why nobody explains how they overfit the public LB
", "rawMarkdown": "I think if it is just normal overfitting to public LB, then why nobody explains how they overfit the public LB", "votes": null }, { "id": "549751", "postDate": "06/11/2019 02:05:13", "content": "Many ways, e.g. blend 700+ with a standard 640, you'll get 670. Would you call it non-cheating?
", "rawMarkdown": "Many ways, e.g. blend 700+ with a standard 640, you'll get 670. Would you call it non-cheating?", "votes": null }, { "id": "549756", "postDate": "06/11/2019 02:11:57", "content": "why the only ones who overfitted the public LB are the ones who jumped in top 5 in the last 2 days?
", "rawMarkdown": "why the only ones who overfitted the public LB are the ones who jumped in top 5 in the last 2 days?", "votes": null }, { "id": "551134", "postDate": "06/12/2019 11:33:01", "content": "Probably duplicate accounts /multiple account holders they mean.. My inference came from https://www.kaggle.com/c/airbnb-recruiting-new-user-bookings/discussion/18926#latest-108129
", "rawMarkdown": "Probably duplicate accounts /multiple account holders they mean.. My inference came from https://www.kaggle.com/c/airbnb-recruiting-new-user-bookings/discussion/18926#latest-108129", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 549685, "author_name": "strideradu", "author_url": "", "post_date": "06/10/2019 23:55:12", "content": "We are all waiting for an official conclusion of what happened on the public LB!
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 549734, "author_name": "artyomp", "author_url": "", "post_date": "06/11/2019 01:35:07", "content": "Non-cheating kernels were selected\nHow do you know that?
Private LB is correlated to the public one.\nthe socres of some teams dropped from 0.7+ to 0.67- how can explain that?
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 549750, "author_name": "strideradu", "author_url": "", "post_date": "06/11/2019 02:04:07", "content": "I think if it is just normal overfitting to public LB, then why nobody explains how they overfit the public LB
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 549751, "author_name": "artyomp", "author_url": "", "post_date": "06/11/2019 02:05:13", "content": "Many ways, e.g. blend 700+ with a standard 640, you'll get 670. Would you call it non-cheating?
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 549756, "author_name": "rinnqd", "author_url": "", "post_date": "06/11/2019 02:11:57", "content": "why the only ones who overfitted the public LB are the ones who jumped in top 5 in the last 2 days?
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 551134, "author_name": "naveenkumar1", "author_url": "", "post_date": "06/12/2019 11:33:01", "content": "Probably duplicate accounts /multiple account holders they mean.. My inference came from https://www.kaggle.com/c/airbnb-recruiting-new-user-bookings/discussion/18926#latest-108129
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "549629": "backaggle mentioned in a comment\n> What happens if they do not select the submission/kernel that they are violated?. \nIf they drop their position in stage 2, it shows that they are scared the justice and select the non-cheating versions. \nI cant wait to see the final result :)\n\nAnd it seems he's right. They didnt submit a solution using the external data but they could use it in a different way like many other have mentioned. \nHOW CAN JUSTICE BE ACHIEVED ?", "549685": "We are all waiting for an official conclusion of what happened on the public LB!", "549734": "`Non-cheating kernels were selected`\nHow do you know that?", "549739": "Private LB is correlated to the public one.\nthe socres of some teams dropped from 0.7+ to 0.67- how can explain that?", "549750": "I think if it is just normal overfitting to public LB, then why nobody explains how they overfit the public LB", "549751": "Many ways, e.g. blend 700+ with a standard 640, you'll get 670. Would you call it non-cheating?", "549756": "why the only ones who overfitted the public LB are the ones who jumped in top 5 in the last 2 days?", "551134": "Probably duplicate accounts /multiple account holders they mean.. My inference came from https://www.kaggle.com/c/airbnb-recruiting-new-user-bookings/discussion/18926#latest-108129" }, "source": "meta" }