{
  "id": 510031,
  "title": "Leaderboard finalization expected to take a few days",
  "url": "/competitions/image-matching-challenge-2024/discussion/510031",
  "author_name": "Sohier Dane",
  "post_date": "2024-06-04T17:50:14.548000",
  "votes": 26,
  "comment_count": 19,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Due to circumstances beyond our control and an unusually high level of reports to investigate, it's going to take longer than usual for us to finalize the leaderboard. I'm still aiming for the end of the week, US West Coast business hours.</p>\n<p>Edit: I need to take tomorrow off, which means the leaderboard won't be finalized until Monday. Thank you for your patience.</p>\n<p>Edit 2: The leaderboard has now been finalized.</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": 2855309,
      "postDate": "2024-06-04T17:50:14.550Z",
      "content": "<p>Due to circumstances beyond our control and an unusually high level of reports to investigate, it's going to take longer than usual for us to finalize the leaderboard. I'm still aiming for the end of the week, US West Coast business hours.</p>\n<p>Edit: I need to take tomorrow off, which means the leaderboard won't be finalized until Monday. Thank you for your patience.</p>\n<p>Edit 2: The leaderboard has now been finalized.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Due to circumstances beyond our control and an unusually high level of reports to investigate, it's going to take longer than usual for us to finalize the leaderboard. I'm still aiming for the end of the week, US West Coast business hours.\n\nEdit: I need to take tomorrow off, which means the leaderboard won't be finalized until Monday. Thank you for your patience.\n\nEdit 2: The leaderboard has now been finalized.",
      "votes": 26
    },
    {
      "id": 2855333,
      "postDate": "2024-06-04T18:06:55.790Z",
      "content": "<p>Take your time and needed pace, we can wait for weeks, most important is a complete check of the top ~100 teams codes and rules compliance.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Take your time and needed pace, we can wait for weeks, most important is a complete check of the top ~100 teams codes and rules compliance.",
      "votes": 5,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2855641,
          "postDate": "2024-06-05T00:24:48.383Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kirderf\" target=\"_blank\">@kirderf</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sohier\" target=\"_blank\">@sohier</a> I agree with 🙆‍♀️ and recommend double-checking to see if they used the same open-source copy. I don't believe so many 0.17 and 0.16 solutions have been breached by contributors who have been active for less than 10 days. I can wait weeks, months or even a year🤣</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@kirderf @sohier I agree with 🙆‍♀️ and recommend double-checking to see if they used the same open-source copy. I don't believe so many 0.17 and 0.16 solutions have been breached by contributors who have been active for less than 10 days. I can wait weeks, months or even a year🤣",
          "votes": 3,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2861858,
              "postDate": "2024-06-08T11:52:49.693Z",
              "content": "<p>I am sure. I've lost 40 places in the last week 🤣 It's unreal.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I am sure. I've lost 40 places in the last week 🤣 It's unreal."
            }
          ]
        },
        {
          "id": 2857993,
          "postDate": "2024-06-06T08:20:43.023Z",
          "content": "<p>There are also some functions that include specific data processing techniques. While everyone's thought process might be similar, the code will definitely not be exactly the same. We are willing to wait.</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "There are also some functions that include specific data processing techniques. While everyone's thought process might be similar, the code will definitely not be exactly the same. We are willing to wait.",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2865512,
      "postDate": "2024-06-10T18:57:10.970Z",
      "content": "<p>The leaderboard has been finalized now, 7 days after deadline.<br>\n7 days ago, when the private score was revealed, my teams was at 116th.<br>\nNow, my team is at 87th.<br>\n<strong>29 teams</strong> above my team in LB seems to be removed(banned), it's very surprising number…. Wow..</p>\n<p>Thank you for your investigation to host and kaggle staff !!!!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "The leaderboard has been finalized now, 7 days after deadline.\n7 days ago, when the private score was revealed, my teams was at 116th.\nNow, my team is at 87th.\n**29 teams** above my team in LB seems to be removed(banned), it's very surprising number.... Wow..\n\nThank you for your investigation to host and kaggle staff !!!!",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2865514,
          "postDate": "2024-06-10T18:58:46.663Z",
          "content": "<p>Similar story for me! I went from 59th to 39th!!!!</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Similar story for me! I went from 59th to 39th!!!!",
          "votes": 1
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2865554,
      "postDate": "2024-06-10T19:42:12.303Z",
      "content": "<p>When will the 5 top prize winners be announced and the open source codes / solutions be published, so one can study and learn from them :)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "When will the 5 top prize winners be announced and the open source codes / solutions be published, so one can study and learn from them :)",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2865556,
          "postDate": "2024-06-10T19:45:00.723Z",
          "content": "<p>Currently the best is from <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tmyok1984\" target=\"_blank\">@tmyok1984</a> who secured the 4th place position!! You can find his work here <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/tmyok1984/imc2024-exp556\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/tmyok1984/imc2024-exp556</a></p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "Currently the best is from @tmyok1984 who secured the 4th place position!! You can find his work here https://www.kaggle.com/code/tmyok1984/imc2024-exp556",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2865610,
              "postDate": "2024-06-10T20:44:54.777Z",
              "content": "<p>Impressive work, have started studying the code! The other 4 winners?</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "Impressive work, have started studying the code! The other 4 winners?",
              "votes": 1
            },
            {
              "id": 2865614,
              "postDate": "2024-06-10T20:48:21.280Z",
              "rawMarkdown": "",
              "isDeleted": true
            },
            {
              "id": 2865676,
              "postDate": "2024-06-10T22:45:43.617Z",
              "content": "<p>I think they should, as the IMC leaderboard doesn’t always show the true prize leaderboard with acceptable licenses. It can be a maze walk finding the top 5 solutions for further reading, learning and development. And as it is a competition and the prize leaderboard is a separate top-5 leaderboard, the prize leaderboard should be showed for the involved and at least for the extra light on the winners.</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "I think they should, as the IMC leaderboard doesn’t always show the true prize leaderboard with acceptable licenses. It can be a maze walk finding the top 5 solutions for further reading, learning and development. And as it is a competition and the prize leaderboard is a separate top-5 leaderboard, the prize leaderboard should be showed for the involved and at least for the extra light on the winners.",
              "votes": 1
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2865001,
      "postDate": "2024-06-10T13:18:42.357Z",
      "content": "<p>More than happy to wait as long as required, I am sure a lot of work goes into investigating this! Best of luck!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "More than happy to wait as long as required, I am sure a lot of work goes into investigating this! Best of luck!",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 2858788,
      "postDate": "2024-06-06T16:14:54.997Z",
      "content": "<p>With the screenshots of 'Medals solutions for sale' in other discussions we are more than happy to wait for Kaggle to do a very thorough and proper cleanup :-)</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "With the screenshots of 'Medals solutions for sale' in other discussions we are more than happy to wait for Kaggle to do a very thorough and proper cleanup :-)",
      "votes": 2
    },
    {
      "id": 2855443,
      "postDate": "2024-06-04T19:21:39.537Z",
      "content": "<p>I see that some users have deleted their accounts. I counted about 10 such cases (there are screenshots), including today (now 1002 participants). This is not a good approach, because we are all competing and no shame if not taking the top place, because it is also a valuable experience, an opportunity to grow and improve skills in the future, and it is important to remember that the total number of participants directly affects the distribution of medals.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I see that some users have deleted their accounts. I counted about 10 such cases (there are screenshots), including today (now 1002 participants). This is not a good approach, because we are all competing and no shame if not taking the top place, because it is also a valuable experience, an opportunity to grow and improve skills in the future, and it is important to remember that the total number of participants directly affects the distribution of medals.",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2855489,
          "postDate": "2024-06-04T20:14:10.270Z",
          "content": "<p>These could be dubious user accounts <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/bratkovskyevgeny\" target=\"_blank\">@bratkovskyevgeny</a> </p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "These could be dubious user accounts @bratkovskyevgeny ",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2855521,
              "postDate": "2024-06-04T20:46:50.307Z",
              "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ravi20076\" target=\"_blank\">@ravi20076</a> , most likely, like Home Credit Group's competition</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "@ravi20076 , most likely, like Home Credit Group's competition",
              "votes": 1
            }
          ]
        },
        {
          "id": 2855654,
          "postDate": "2024-06-05T00:40:12.207Z",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/bratkovskyevgeny\" target=\"_blank\">@bratkovskyevgeny</a> Friends, your ranking can get you deserved MEDALS, if you delete 100, only 900 participants you should also have a bronze medal 🥉, according to the rules of medal distribution</p>",
          "rawMarkdown": "@bratkovskyevgeny Friends, your ranking can get you deserved MEDALS, if you delete 100, only 900 participants you should also have a bronze medal 🥉, according to the rules of medal distribution",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2856395,
              "postDate": "2024-06-05T08:46:05.720Z",
              "content": "<p>My comment was more focused on the fact that there is no shame in being ranked very far from the top. I was once ranked 1022 (Multi-Class Prediction of Obesity Risk) and I took such a result in stride and did not even think of deleting my account because of such a bad result.  Have a nice day!</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "My comment was more focused on the fact that there is no shame in being ranked very far from the top. I was once ranked 1022 (Multi-Class Prediction of Obesity Risk) and I took such a result in stride and did not even think of deleting my account because of such a bad result.  Have a nice day!",
              "votes": 1
            },
            {
              "id": 2856745,
              "postDate": "2024-06-05T13:15:25.230Z",
              "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/bratkovskyevgeny\" target=\"_blank\">@bratkovskyevgeny</a> Yes, MEDALS are not very important, but I hate selling MEDALS and proxy games. In my first kaggle financial Risk Control Home Credit competition, some people sold MEDALS and even gold MEDALS 🥇, which greatly reduces the power of kaggle. kaggle is a place to learn, not make money</p>",
              "rawMarkdown": "@bratkovskyevgeny Yes, MEDALS are not very important, but I hate selling MEDALS and proxy games. In my first kaggle financial Risk Control Home Credit competition, some people sold MEDALS and even gold MEDALS 🥇, which greatly reduces the power of kaggle. kaggle is a place to learn, not make money",
              "votes": 2
            }
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        }
      ]
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  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2855333,
      "author_name": "Kirderf",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-06-04T18:06:55.790000",
      "content": "<p>Take your time and needed pace, we can wait for weeks, most important is a complete check of the top ~100 teams codes and rules compliance.</p>",
      "votes": 5,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2855641,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-06-05T00:24:48.383000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/kirderf\" target=\"_blank\">@kirderf</a> <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/sohier\" target=\"_blank\">@sohier</a> I agree with 🙆‍♀️ and recommend double-checking to see if they used the same open-source copy. I don't believe so many 0.17 and 0.16 solutions have been breached by contributors who have been active for less than 10 days. I can wait weeks, months or even a year🤣</p>",
          "votes": 3,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2861858,
              "author_name": "Aleksandr Kruchinin",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-06-08T11:52:49.693000",
              "content": "<p>I am sure. I've lost 40 places in the last week 🤣 It's unreal.</p>",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        },
        {
          "id": 2857993,
          "author_name": "Chainey",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-06-06T08:20:43.023000",
          "content": "<p>There are also some functions that include specific data processing techniques. While everyone's thought process might be similar, the code will definitely not be exactly the same. We are willing to wait.</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2865512,
      "author_name": "Aurora_blue",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-06-10T18:57:10.970000",
      "content": "<p>The leaderboard has been finalized now, 7 days after deadline.<br>\n7 days ago, when the private score was revealed, my teams was at 116th.<br>\nNow, my team is at 87th.<br>\n<strong>29 teams</strong> above my team in LB seems to be removed(banned), it's very surprising number…. Wow..</p>\n<p>Thank you for your investigation to host and kaggle staff !!!!</p>",
      "votes": 1,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2865514,
          "author_name": "Cody_Null",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-06-10T18:58:46.663000",
          "content": "<p>Similar story for me! I went from 59th to 39th!!!!</p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": []
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2865554,
      "author_name": "Kirderf",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-06-10T19:42:12.303000",
      "content": "<p>When will the 5 top prize winners be announced and the open source codes / solutions be published, so one can study and learn from them :)</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2865556,
          "author_name": "Cody_Null",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-06-10T19:45:00.723000",
          "content": "<p>Currently the best is from <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/tmyok1984\" target=\"_blank\">@tmyok1984</a> who secured the 4th place position!! You can find his work here <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/code/tmyok1984/imc2024-exp556\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.kaggle.com/code/tmyok1984/imc2024-exp556</a></p>",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2865610,
              "author_name": "Kirderf",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-06-10T20:44:54.777000",
              "content": "<p>Impressive work, have started studying the code! The other 4 winners?</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2865614,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-06-10T20:48:21.280000",
              "content": "",
              "votes": 0,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2865676,
              "author_name": "Kirderf",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-06-10T22:45:43.617000",
              "content": "<p>I think they should, as the IMC leaderboard doesn’t always show the true prize leaderboard with acceptable licenses. It can be a maze walk finding the top 5 solutions for further reading, learning and development. And as it is a competition and the prize leaderboard is a separate top-5 leaderboard, the prize leaderboard should be showed for the involved and at least for the extra light on the winners.</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    },
    {
      "id": 2865001,
      "author_name": "Cody_Null",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-06-10T13:18:42.357000",
      "content": "<p>More than happy to wait as long as required, I am sure a lot of work goes into investigating this! Best of luck!</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2858788,
      "author_name": "Robin Smits",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-06-06T16:14:54.997000",
      "content": "<p>With the screenshots of 'Medals solutions for sale' in other discussions we are more than happy to wait for Kaggle to do a very thorough and proper cleanup :-)</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2855443,
      "author_name": "Evgeny Bratkovsky",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "2024-06-04T19:21:39.537000",
      "content": "<p>I see that some users have deleted their accounts. I counted about 10 such cases (there are screenshots), including today (now 1002 participants). This is not a good approach, because we are all competing and no shame if not taking the top place, because it is also a valuable experience, an opportunity to grow and improve skills in the future, and it is important to remember that the total number of participants directly affects the distribution of medals.</p>",
      "votes": 2,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2855489,
          "author_name": "Ravi Ramakrishnan",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-06-04T20:14:10.270000",
          "content": "<p>These could be dubious user accounts <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/bratkovskyevgeny\" target=\"_blank\">@bratkovskyevgeny</a> </p>",
          "votes": 1,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2855521,
              "author_name": "Evgeny Bratkovsky",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-06-04T20:46:50.307000",
              "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/ravi20076\" target=\"_blank\">@ravi20076</a> , most likely, like Home Credit Group's competition</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        },
        {
          "id": 2855654,
          "author_name": "",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "2024-06-05T00:40:12.207000",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/bratkovskyevgeny\" target=\"_blank\">@bratkovskyevgeny</a> Friends, your ranking can get you deserved MEDALS, if you delete 100, only 900 participants you should also have a bronze medal 🥉, according to the rules of medal distribution</p>",
          "votes": 2,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2856395,
              "author_name": "Evgeny Bratkovsky",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-06-05T08:46:05.720000",
              "content": "<p>My comment was more focused on the fact that there is no shame in being ranked very far from the top. I was once ranked 1022 (Multi-Class Prediction of Obesity Risk) and I took such a result in stride and did not even think of deleting my account because of such a bad result.  Have a nice day!</p>",
              "votes": 1,
              "replies": []
            },
            {
              "id": 2856745,
              "author_name": "",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "2024-06-05T13:15:25.230000",
              "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/bratkovskyevgeny\" target=\"_blank\">@bratkovskyevgeny</a> Yes, MEDALS are not very important, but I hate selling MEDALS and proxy games. In my first kaggle financial Risk Control Home Credit competition, some people sold MEDALS and even gold MEDALS 🥇, which greatly reduces the power of kaggle. kaggle is a place to learn, not make money</p>",
              "votes": 2,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    }
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    "2855309": "Due to circumstances beyond our control and an unusually high level of reports to investigate, it's going to take longer than usual for us to finalize the leaderboard. I'm still aiming for the end of the week, US West Coast business hours.\n\nEdit: I need to take tomorrow off, which means the leaderboard won't be finalized until Monday. Thank you for your patience.\n\nEdit 2: The leaderboard has now been finalized.",
    "2855333": "Take your time and needed pace, we can wait for weeks, most important is a complete check of the top ~100 teams codes and rules compliance.",
    "2865512": "The leaderboard has been finalized now, 7 days after deadline.\n7 days ago, when the private score was revealed, my teams was at 116th.\nNow, my team is at 87th.\n**29 teams** above my team in LB seems to be removed(banned), it's very surprising number.... Wow..\n\nThank you for your investigation to host and kaggle staff !!!!",
    "2865554": "When will the 5 top prize winners be announced and the open source codes / solutions be published, so one can study and learn from them :)",
    "2865001": "More than happy to wait as long as required, I am sure a lot of work goes into investigating this! Best of luck!",
    "2858788": "With the screenshots of 'Medals solutions for sale' in other discussions we are more than happy to wait for Kaggle to do a very thorough and proper cleanup :-)",
    "2855443": "I see that some users have deleted their accounts. I counted about 10 such cases (there are screenshots), including today (now 1002 participants). This is not a good approach, because we are all competing and no shame if not taking the top place, because it is also a valuable experience, an opportunity to grow and improve skills in the future, and it is important to remember that the total number of participants directly affects the distribution of medals."
  }
}