I have been unable to merge teams with my collaborator, as he has not been responsive since last Friday. We initially decided to merge our teams later in the competition because we started late (less than two weeks ago) and wanted to maximize our individual submission opportunities (which we checked is allowed according to this guideline). Over the past two weeks, I have shared one notebook with him, though the notebook was only slightly modified from a public notebook and did not result in any score. My collaborator did not submit anything else and remains unranked on the leaderboard. Despite my best efforts and commitment to this competition, I found myself working alone as my collaborator soon became unresponsive -- we did not collaborate at all except me sharing one notebook (which never scored) with him. Now I deeply regret my decision. I would have never done that if I knew it would end up like this.
\nI understand that if we do not merge our teams by the end of today, both of us will be disqualified. However, I have been unable to reach him. Could the organizers or Kaggle staff please advise me on how to avoid disqualification in this situation? Will we be OK if we make the shared notebooks public?
\n@ashleychow @mylesoneill @oldufo
", "messages": [ { "id": 2842255, "postDate": "2024-05-29T01:54:12.710Z", "content": "Hi @anonymousyuxiang, thanks for your question! Unfortunately I am not from the Moderation team and so the final decision comes from them after competition closes. I could only help explain the Rules here. As per the Rules:
\n\n\nA. Private Code Sharing. Unless otherwise specifically permitted under the Competition Website or Competition Specific Rules above, during the Competition Period, you are not allowed to privately share source or executable code developed in connection with or based upon the Competition Data or other source or executable code relevant to the Competition (“Competition Code”). This prohibition includes sharing Competition Code between separate Teams, unless a Team merger occurs. Any such sharing of Competition Code is a breach of these Competition Rules and may result in disqualification.
\nB. Public Code Sharing. You are permitted to publicly share Competition Code, provided that such public sharing does not violate the intellectual property rights of any third party. If you do choose to share Competition Code or other such code, you are required to share it on Kaggle.com on the discussion forum or notebooks associated specifically with the Competition for the benefit of all competitors. By so sharing, you are deemed to have licensed the shared code under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such Competition Code or model containing or depending on such Competition Code.
\n
Thus, Team merger needs to occur before Team Merger Deadline to avoid the violation of \"Private Code Sharing\". Otherwise, you are \"permitted to publicly share Competition Code\". Hope it helps explain. Thanks!
", "rawMarkdown": "Hi @anonymousyuxiang, thanks for your question! Unfortunately I am not from the Moderation team and so the final decision comes from them after competition closes. I could only help explain the Rules here. As per the [Rules](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/image-matching-challenge-2024/rules):\n\n>A. Private Code Sharing. Unless otherwise specifically permitted under the Competition Website or Competition Specific Rules above, during the Competition Period, you are not allowed to privately share source or executable code developed in connection with or based upon the Competition Data or other source or executable code relevant to the Competition (“Competition Code”). This prohibition includes sharing Competition Code between separate Teams, unless a Team merger occurs. Any such sharing of Competition Code is a breach of these Competition Rules and may result in disqualification.\n\n>B. Public Code Sharing. You are permitted to publicly share Competition Code, provided that such public sharing does not violate the intellectual property rights of any third party. If you do choose to share Competition Code or other such code, you are required to share it on Kaggle.com on the discussion forum or notebooks associated specifically with the Competition for the benefit of all competitors. By so sharing, you are deemed to have licensed the shared code under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such Competition Code or model containing or depending on such Competition Code.\n\nThus, Team merger needs to occur before Team Merger Deadline to avoid the violation of \"Private Code Sharing\". Otherwise, you are \"permitted to publicly share Competition Code\". Hope it helps explain. Thanks!", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 2842259, "postDate": "2024-05-29T02:01:25.760Z", "content": "I would like to quickly say that making the 26th place code public 6 days before competition end would not be good either.
", "rawMarkdown": "I would like to quickly say that making the 26th place code public 6 days before competition end would not be good either. ", "votes": 2 }, { "id": 2842287, "postDate": "2024-05-29T02:47:45.990Z", "content": "@ashleychow Thank you for your clarification. I made the privately shared notebook public right before the merging deadline as my best hope.
\n@cody11null That notebook was faulty (only threw exceptions when submitted) and was completely unrelated to the notebook I submitted to get my current score. Also the person I shared it with has quitted the competition and also did not obtain any score on the LB, so no participant was affected.
I have been unable to merge teams with my collaborator, as he has not been responsive since last Friday. We initially decided to merge our teams later in the competition because we started late (less than two weeks ago) and wanted to maximize our individual submission opportunities (which we checked is allowed according to this guideline). Over the past two weeks, I have shared one notebook with him, though the notebook was only slightly modified from a public notebook and did not result in any score. My collaborator did not submit anything else and remains unranked on the leaderboard. Despite my best efforts and commitment to this competition, I found myself working alone as my collaborator soon became unresponsive -- we did not collaborate at all except me sharing one notebook (which never scored) with him. Now I deeply regret my decision. I would have never done that if I knew it would end up like this.
\nI understand that if we do not merge our teams by the end of today, both of us will be disqualified. However, I have been unable to reach him. Could the organizers or Kaggle staff please advise me on how to avoid disqualification in this situation? Will we be OK if we make the shared notebooks public?
\n@ashleychow @mylesoneill @oldufo
", "rawMarkdown": "I have been unable to merge teams with my collaborator, as he has not been responsive since last Friday. We initially decided to merge our teams later in the competition because we started late (less than two weeks ago) and wanted to maximize our individual submission opportunities (which we checked is allowed according to [this guideline](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/image-matching-challenge-2024/rules)). Over the past two weeks, I have shared one notebook with him, though the notebook was only slightly modified from a public notebook and did not result in any score. My collaborator did not submit anything else and remains **unranked** on the leaderboard. Despite my best efforts and commitment to this competition, I found myself working alone as my collaborator soon became unresponsive -- we did not collaborate at all except me sharing one notebook (which **never scored**) with him. Now I deeply regret my decision. I would have never done that if I knew it would end up like this. \n\nI understand that if we do not merge our teams by the end of today, both of us will be disqualified. However, I have been unable to reach him. Could the organizers or Kaggle staff please advise me on how to avoid disqualification in this situation? Will we be OK if we make the shared notebooks public? \n\n@ashleychow @mylesoneill @oldufo ", "votes": -9 }, { "id": 2839993, "postDate": "2024-05-27T21:51:53.910Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true, "replies": [ { "id": 2840008, "postDate": "2024-05-27T22:16:06.510Z", "content": "No, it's not against the community rule to share before merging. As long as the team merger finally occurs it is permitted to share between different teams, according to this guideline -- \"This prohibition includes sharing Competition Code between separate Teams, unless a Team merger occurs\". I also have seen many people do this especially when they join the competition late to have more submissions, and none was disqualified. My expectation was that my collaborator and I would eventually merge our teams. But now since he bailed out which made me not able to merge team with him, I am worried of being disqualified.
", "rawMarkdown": "No, it's not against the community rule to share before merging. As long as the team merger finally occurs it is permitted to share between different teams, according to [this guideline](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/image-matching-challenge-2024/rules) -- \"This prohibition includes sharing Competition Code between separate Teams, unless a Team merger occurs\". I also have seen many people do this especially when they join the competition late to have more submissions, and none was disqualified. My expectation was that my collaborator and I would eventually merge our teams. But now since he bailed out which made me not able to merge team with him, I am worried of being disqualified. ", "votes": -3, "replies": [ { "id": 2841040, "postDate": "2024-05-28T11:23:56.840Z", "content": "I was disqualified in some of my first Kaggle comps for exactly this. I also didn't understand why do hosts disqualify me and my teammate even though we merged few weeks before deadline, but those were the rules at that moment (2020 year). Maybe something changed, but that was huge lesson for me to never share codes with anybody before merge =(
", "rawMarkdown": "I was disqualified in some of my first Kaggle comps for exactly this. I also didn't understand why do hosts disqualify me and my teammate even though we merged few weeks before deadline, but those were the rules at that moment (2020 year). Maybe something changed, but that was huge lesson for me to never share codes with anybody before merge =(", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 2841745, "postDate": "2024-05-28T17:16:19.067Z", "content": "I see. I would just like to say that I had absolutely no intention to go against the rules from the beginning. Maybe your competition had a different guideline, but seeing the guideline of this competition, it does seem like sharing before merging is allowed. It's just the fact that I chose the wrong potential teammate that resulted in my unfortunate situtaion.
", "rawMarkdown": "I see. I would just like to say that I had absolutely no intention to go against the rules from the beginning. Maybe your competition had a different guideline, but seeing the [guideline](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/image-matching-challenge-2024/rules) of **this** competition, it does seem like sharing before merging is allowed. It's just the fact that I chose the wrong potential teammate that resulted in my unfortunate situtaion. ", "votes": -1 }, { "id": 2870527, "postDate": "2024-06-13T16:33:29.713Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 2870529, "postDate": "2024-06-13T16:33:53.930Z", "content": "Interesting. I wonder how they can track that you shared the code with someone?
", "rawMarkdown": "Interesting. I wonder how they can track that you shared the code with someone?", "votes": -1 } ] } ] } ], "comments": [ { "id": 2842255, "author_name": "Ashley Chow", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-05-29T01:54:12.710000", "content": "Hi @anonymousyuxiang, thanks for your question! Unfortunately I am not from the Moderation team and so the final decision comes from them after competition closes. I could only help explain the Rules here. As per the Rules:
\n\n\nA. Private Code Sharing. Unless otherwise specifically permitted under the Competition Website or Competition Specific Rules above, during the Competition Period, you are not allowed to privately share source or executable code developed in connection with or based upon the Competition Data or other source or executable code relevant to the Competition (“Competition Code”). This prohibition includes sharing Competition Code between separate Teams, unless a Team merger occurs. Any such sharing of Competition Code is a breach of these Competition Rules and may result in disqualification.
\nB. Public Code Sharing. You are permitted to publicly share Competition Code, provided that such public sharing does not violate the intellectual property rights of any third party. If you do choose to share Competition Code or other such code, you are required to share it on Kaggle.com on the discussion forum or notebooks associated specifically with the Competition for the benefit of all competitors. By so sharing, you are deemed to have licensed the shared code under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such Competition Code or model containing or depending on such Competition Code.
\n
Thus, Team merger needs to occur before Team Merger Deadline to avoid the violation of \"Private Code Sharing\". Otherwise, you are \"permitted to publicly share Competition Code\". Hope it helps explain. Thanks!
", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 2842259, "author_name": "Cody_Null", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-05-29T02:01:25.760000", "content": "I would like to quickly say that making the 26th place code public 6 days before competition end would not be good either.
", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2842287, "author_name": "Yuxiang Huang", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-05-29T02:47:45.990000", "content": "@ashleychow Thank you for your clarification. I made the privately shared notebook public right before the merging deadline as my best hope.
\n@cody11null That notebook was faulty (only threw exceptions when submitted) and was completely unrelated to the notebook I submitted to get my current score. Also the person I shared it with has quitted the competition and also did not obtain any score on the LB, so no participant was affected.
No, it's not against the community rule to share before merging. As long as the team merger finally occurs it is permitted to share between different teams, according to this guideline -- \"This prohibition includes sharing Competition Code between separate Teams, unless a Team merger occurs\". I also have seen many people do this especially when they join the competition late to have more submissions, and none was disqualified. My expectation was that my collaborator and I would eventually merge our teams. But now since he bailed out which made me not able to merge team with him, I am worried of being disqualified.
", "votes": -3, "replies": [ { "id": 2841040, "author_name": "Vladislav Ostankovich", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-05-28T11:23:56.840000", "content": "I was disqualified in some of my first Kaggle comps for exactly this. I also didn't understand why do hosts disqualify me and my teammate even though we merged few weeks before deadline, but those were the rules at that moment (2020 year). Maybe something changed, but that was huge lesson for me to never share codes with anybody before merge =(
", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2841745, "author_name": "Yuxiang Huang", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-05-28T17:16:19.067000", "content": "I see. I would just like to say that I had absolutely no intention to go against the rules from the beginning. Maybe your competition had a different guideline, but seeing the guideline of this competition, it does seem like sharing before merging is allowed. It's just the fact that I chose the wrong potential teammate that resulted in my unfortunate situtaion.
", "votes": -1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2870527, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-06-13T16:33:29.713000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2870529, "author_name": "Karnakbayev Artur", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2024-06-13T16:33:53.930000", "content": "Interesting. I wonder how they can track that you shared the code with someone?
", "votes": -1, "replies": [] } ] } ] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "2842255": "Hi @anonymousyuxiang, thanks for your question! Unfortunately I am not from the Moderation team and so the final decision comes from them after competition closes. I could only help explain the Rules here. As per the [Rules](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/image-matching-challenge-2024/rules):\n\n>A. Private Code Sharing. Unless otherwise specifically permitted under the Competition Website or Competition Specific Rules above, during the Competition Period, you are not allowed to privately share source or executable code developed in connection with or based upon the Competition Data or other source or executable code relevant to the Competition (“Competition Code”). This prohibition includes sharing Competition Code between separate Teams, unless a Team merger occurs. Any such sharing of Competition Code is a breach of these Competition Rules and may result in disqualification.\n\n>B. Public Code Sharing. You are permitted to publicly share Competition Code, provided that such public sharing does not violate the intellectual property rights of any third party. If you do choose to share Competition Code or other such code, you are required to share it on Kaggle.com on the discussion forum or notebooks associated specifically with the Competition for the benefit of all competitors. By so sharing, you are deemed to have licensed the shared code under an Open Source Initiative-approved license (see www.opensource.org) that in no event limits commercial use of such Competition Code or model containing or depending on such Competition Code.\n\nThus, Team merger needs to occur before Team Merger Deadline to avoid the violation of \"Private Code Sharing\". Otherwise, you are \"permitted to publicly share Competition Code\". Hope it helps explain. Thanks!", "2839982": "I have been unable to merge teams with my collaborator, as he has not been responsive since last Friday. We initially decided to merge our teams later in the competition because we started late (less than two weeks ago) and wanted to maximize our individual submission opportunities (which we checked is allowed according to [this guideline](https://www.kaggle.com/competitions/image-matching-challenge-2024/rules)). Over the past two weeks, I have shared one notebook with him, though the notebook was only slightly modified from a public notebook and did not result in any score. My collaborator did not submit anything else and remains **unranked** on the leaderboard. Despite my best efforts and commitment to this competition, I found myself working alone as my collaborator soon became unresponsive -- we did not collaborate at all except me sharing one notebook (which **never scored**) with him. Now I deeply regret my decision. I would have never done that if I knew it would end up like this. \n\nI understand that if we do not merge our teams by the end of today, both of us will be disqualified. However, I have been unable to reach him. Could the organizers or Kaggle staff please advise me on how to avoid disqualification in this situation? Will we be OK if we make the shared notebooks public? \n\n@ashleychow @mylesoneill @oldufo ", "2839993": "" } }