Hello!
\nIn the Files section of the Data, specially \"[train/test]_meta.parquet\", there's a note saying that some event information such as the interaction point and the neutrino energy are not included in the dataset. Does anyone know of a dataset that does contain these quantities (specially, interaction time, interaction location and energy deposited in the cascade/track, in case that makes sense).
\nThanks a lot!
", "messages": [ { "id": "2135933", "postDate": "02/09/2023 00:56:21", "content": "Hello!
\nIn the Files section of the Data, specially \"[train/test]_meta.parquet\", there's a note saying that some event information such as the interaction point and the neutrino energy are not included in the dataset. Does anyone know of a dataset that does contain these quantities (specially, interaction time, interaction location and energy deposited in the cascade/track, in case that makes sense).
\nThanks a lot!
", "rawMarkdown": "Hello!\n\nIn the Files section of the Data, specially \"[train/test]_meta.parquet\", there's a note saying that some event information such as the interaction point and the neutrino energy are not included in the dataset. Does anyone know of a dataset that does contain these quantities (specially, interaction time, interaction location and energy deposited in the cascade/track, in case that makes sense).\n\nThanks a lot!", "votes": null }, { "id": "2136373", "postDate": "02/09/2023 09:32:59", "content": "This is all the data we have. They are simulated events, not real neutrino detections in IceCube, so you're not going to find more data than this for the events in our train/test sets.
\n(Obviously there might be other datasets that don't match the events in our dataset but that contain the additional types of data you're talking about.)
", "rawMarkdown": "This is all the data we have. They are simulated events, not real neutrino detections in IceCube, so you're not going to find more data than this for the events in our train/test sets.\n\n(Obviously there might be other datasets that don't match the events in our dataset but that contain the additional types of data you're talking about.)", "votes": null }, { "id": "2137138", "postDate": "02/09/2023 18:44:49", "content": "Thanks for your answer. Yeah, I'll try rolling with this dataset we have. I had an idea but, later I thought about it, I think that if we had the extra information I mentioned here it wouldn't be enough haha So, just a brain slip :P
", "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for your answer. Yeah, I'll try rolling with this dataset we have. I had an idea but, later I thought about it, I think that if we had the extra information I mentioned here it wouldn't be enough haha So, just a brain slip :P", "votes": null }, { "id": "2137416", "postDate": "02/10/2023 01:17:02", "content": "Could you explain me, what does mean \"simulated events\"? Here there are a lot persons, who have Phd degrees (nuclear engineering, physics, chemical engineering, and so far and so forth). Probably, they are able to understand the aim of certain competition without information about fundamental inputs (e.g. deposited energy in media)
", "rawMarkdown": "Could you explain me, what does mean \"simulated events\"? Here there are a lot persons, who have Phd degrees (nuclear engineering, physics, chemical engineering, and so far and so forth). Probably, they are able to understand the aim of certain competition without information about fundamental inputs (e.g. deposited energy in media)", "votes": null }, { "id": "2137561", "postDate": "02/10/2023 06:22:12", "content": "I found an interesting paper about that, that explains it in quite detail.
\nSearch for neutrino-induced particle showers with\nIceCube-40
\nIt's from 2015, but I assume it's still good. Chapter 4 is about the simulation of events.
Thank you!
", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you!", "votes": null }, { "id": "2138061", "postDate": "02/10/2023 14:19:45", "content": "I think Philip Eller said they use computer simulated data because it enables them to look at what's happening with a higher resolution.
\nThe actual IceCube Observatory has sensors spaced at around 125m apart (horizontally) and 17m apart (vertically). So if I understand correctly, using simulated data allows them to see what would be happening in the spaces in-between the sensors, as if they had even more sensors there too. He also explained that they regularly compare their simulated data to the actual readings that they get from the observatory in order to ensure it is accurate and therefore useful.
", "rawMarkdown": "I think Philip Eller said they use computer simulated data because it enables them to look at what's happening with a higher resolution.\n\nThe actual IceCube Observatory has sensors spaced at around 125m apart (horizontally) and 17m apart (vertically). So if I understand correctly, using simulated data allows them to see what would be happening in the spaces *in-between the sensors*, as if they had even more sensors there too. He also explained that they regularly compare their simulated data to the actual readings that they get from the observatory in order to ensure it is accurate and therefore useful.", "votes": null }, { "id": "2139537", "postDate": "02/10/2023 20:43:14", "content": "Thank you. i appreciate your help.
", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you. i appreciate your help.", "votes": null }, { "id": "2221306", "postDate": "04/14/2023 06:04:33", "content": "https://icecube.umd.edu/PublicData/
\nhttps://icecube.wisc.edu/science/data-releases/
\nhttps://icecube.wisc.edu/data-releases/2021/01/all-sky-point-source-icecube-data-years-2008-2018/
provides a list of data releases from IceCube, which might have some relevant information for your analysis
", "rawMarkdown": "[https://icecube.umd.edu/PublicData/](url)\n[https://icecube.wisc.edu/science/data-releases/](url)\n[https://icecube.wisc.edu/data-releases/2021/01/all-sky-point-source-icecube-data-years-2008-2018/](url)\n\nprovides a list of data releases from IceCube, which might have some relevant information for your analysis", "votes": null }, { "id": "2221896", "postDate": "04/14/2023 17:07:51", "content": "I think it might be too late into the competition for me, but, thanks nevertheless. I'll take a look :)
", "rawMarkdown": "I think it might be too late into the competition for me, but, thanks nevertheless. I'll take a look :)", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 2136373, "author_name": "andrewrrose", "author_url": "", "post_date": "02/09/2023 09:32:59", "content": "This is all the data we have. They are simulated events, not real neutrino detections in IceCube, so you're not going to find more data than this for the events in our train/test sets.
\n(Obviously there might be other datasets that don't match the events in our dataset but that contain the additional types of data you're talking about.)
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 2137138, "author_name": "araraonline", "author_url": "", "post_date": "02/09/2023 18:44:49", "content": "Thanks for your answer. Yeah, I'll try rolling with this dataset we have. I had an idea but, later I thought about it, I think that if we had the extra information I mentioned here it wouldn't be enough haha So, just a brain slip :P
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 2137416, "author_name": "derkanat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "02/10/2023 01:17:02", "content": "Could you explain me, what does mean \"simulated events\"? Here there are a lot persons, who have Phd degrees (nuclear engineering, physics, chemical engineering, and so far and so forth). Probably, they are able to understand the aim of certain competition without information about fundamental inputs (e.g. deposited energy in media)
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 2137561, "author_name": "taqseorangpun", "author_url": "", "post_date": "02/10/2023 06:22:12", "content": "I found an interesting paper about that, that explains it in quite detail.
\nSearch for neutrino-induced particle showers with\nIceCube-40
\nIt's from 2015, but I assume it's still good. Chapter 4 is about the simulation of events.
Thank you!
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 2138061, "author_name": "michaelbarrett", "author_url": "", "post_date": "02/10/2023 14:19:45", "content": "I think Philip Eller said they use computer simulated data because it enables them to look at what's happening with a higher resolution.
\nThe actual IceCube Observatory has sensors spaced at around 125m apart (horizontally) and 17m apart (vertically). So if I understand correctly, using simulated data allows them to see what would be happening in the spaces in-between the sensors, as if they had even more sensors there too. He also explained that they regularly compare their simulated data to the actual readings that they get from the observatory in order to ensure it is accurate and therefore useful.
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 2139537, "author_name": "derkanat", "author_url": "", "post_date": "02/10/2023 20:43:14", "content": "Thank you. i appreciate your help.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] } ] } ] } ] } ] }, { "id": 2221306, "author_name": "yus002", "author_url": "", "post_date": "04/14/2023 06:04:33", "content": "https://icecube.umd.edu/PublicData/
\nhttps://icecube.wisc.edu/science/data-releases/
\nhttps://icecube.wisc.edu/data-releases/2021/01/all-sky-point-source-icecube-data-years-2008-2018/
provides a list of data releases from IceCube, which might have some relevant information for your analysis
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 2221896, "author_name": "araraonline", "author_url": "", "post_date": "04/14/2023 17:07:51", "content": "I think it might be too late into the competition for me, but, thanks nevertheless. I'll take a look :)
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "2135933": "Hello!\n\nIn the Files section of the Data, specially \"[train/test]_meta.parquet\", there's a note saying that some event information such as the interaction point and the neutrino energy are not included in the dataset. Does anyone know of a dataset that does contain these quantities (specially, interaction time, interaction location and energy deposited in the cascade/track, in case that makes sense).\n\nThanks a lot!", "2136373": "This is all the data we have. They are simulated events, not real neutrino detections in IceCube, so you're not going to find more data than this for the events in our train/test sets.\n\n(Obviously there might be other datasets that don't match the events in our dataset but that contain the additional types of data you're talking about.)", "2137138": "Thanks for your answer. Yeah, I'll try rolling with this dataset we have. I had an idea but, later I thought about it, I think that if we had the extra information I mentioned here it wouldn't be enough haha So, just a brain slip :P", "2137416": "Could you explain me, what does mean \"simulated events\"? Here there are a lot persons, who have Phd degrees (nuclear engineering, physics, chemical engineering, and so far and so forth). Probably, they are able to understand the aim of certain competition without information about fundamental inputs (e.g. deposited energy in media)", "2137561": "I found an interesting paper about that, that explains it in quite detail.\n[Search for neutrino-induced particle showers with\nIceCube-40](https://eike.middell.net/diss.pdf)\nIt's from 2015, but I assume it's still good. Chapter 4 is about the simulation of events.", "2137650": "Thank you!", "2138061": "I think Philip Eller said they use computer simulated data because it enables them to look at what's happening with a higher resolution.\n\nThe actual IceCube Observatory has sensors spaced at around 125m apart (horizontally) and 17m apart (vertically). So if I understand correctly, using simulated data allows them to see what would be happening in the spaces *in-between the sensors*, as if they had even more sensors there too. He also explained that they regularly compare their simulated data to the actual readings that they get from the observatory in order to ensure it is accurate and therefore useful.", "2139537": "Thank you. i appreciate your help.", "2221306": "[https://icecube.umd.edu/PublicData/](url)\n[https://icecube.wisc.edu/science/data-releases/](url)\n[https://icecube.wisc.edu/data-releases/2021/01/all-sky-point-source-icecube-data-years-2008-2018/](url)\n\nprovides a list of data releases from IceCube, which might have some relevant information for your analysis", "2221896": "I think it might be too late into the competition for me, but, thanks nevertheless. I'll take a look :)" }, "source": "meta" }