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  "id": 70128,
  "title": "What are your predictions for maximum public LB score? ",
  "url": "/competitions/human-protein-atlas-image-classification/discussion/70128",
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  "post_date": "2018-10-31T04:04:44.056114600Z",
  "votes": 3,
  "comment_count": 14,
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  "content": "<p>Given that for the last few days I've done nothing beside watching a progress bar to finish, I guess it may reach ~0.6 with 512x512.</p>\n\n<p>If some of you millionaires decide to use 2048x2048 it can reach ~0.62 I think. What are your thoughts?</p>",
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      "id": "412964",
      "postDate": "10/31/2018 04:04:44",
      "content": "<p>Given that for the last few days I've done nothing beside watching a progress bar to finish, I guess it may reach ~0.6 with 512x512.</p>\n\n<p>If some of you millionaires decide to use 2048x2048 it can reach ~0.62 I think. What are your thoughts?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Given that for the last few days I've done nothing beside watching a progress bar to finish, I guess it may reach ~0.6 with 512x512.\n\nIf some of you millionaires decide to use 2048x2048 it can reach ~0.62 I think. What are your thoughts?",
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      "id": "413077",
      "postDate": "10/31/2018 08:37:56",
      "content": "<p>\"Combining the annotations of gamers and deep learning, we applied transfer learning to create a boosted learner that can characterize subcellular protein distribution with F1 score of 0.72\"</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt.4225\">https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt.4225</a></p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/human-protein-atlas-image-classification/discussion/70144#latest-413071\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/human-protein-atlas-image-classification/discussion/70144#latest-413071</a></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "\"Combining the annotations of gamers and deep learning, we applied transfer learning to create a boosted learner that can characterize subcellular protein distribution with F1 score of 0.72\"\n\n\nhttps://www.nature.com/articles/nbt.4225\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/human-protein-atlas-image-classification/discussion/70144#latest-413071",
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      "id": "413086",
      "postDate": "10/31/2018 08:56:41",
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      "id": "413118",
      "postDate": "10/31/2018 09:53:46",
      "content": "<p>Now the problem is: How do I gather my local nerds and convince them to improve my models?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Now the problem is: How do I gather my local nerds and convince them to improve my models?",
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    },
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      "id": "413474",
      "postDate": "11/01/2018 02:29:49",
      "content": "<p>My bet is ~0.7-0.8...\nBTW, Khoi Nguyen, you wrote that you tried to use full resolution images, did you achieve any success with them?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "My bet is ~0.7-0.8...\nBTW, Khoi Nguyen, you wrote that you tried to use full resolution images, did you achieve any success with them?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "413477",
      "postDate": "11/01/2018 02:40:31",
      "content": "<p>It was a 3% increased in F1 so I won't be surprised if someone uses the 2048x2048. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It was a 3% increased in F1 so I won't be surprised if someone uses the 2048x2048.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "414083",
      "postDate": "11/02/2018 05:00:56",
      "content": "<p>I just started with 1536x1536 based on the 2048x2048 images. A few days later maybe I'll have some results at the speed it is running, 2500 seconds per epoch.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I just started with 1536x1536 based on the 2048x2048 images. A few days later maybe I'll have some results at the speed it is running, 2500 seconds per epoch.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "414243",
      "postDate": "11/02/2018 11:44:38",
      "content": "<p>256x256, local LB w. constant threshold 0.5: 0.72</p>\n\n<p>I believe that 512x512 can bring it to 0.8.....</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "256x256, local LB w. constant threshold 0.5: 0.72\n\nI believe that 512x512 can bring it to 0.8.....",
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    {
      "id": "414358",
      "postDate": "11/02/2018 15:48:21",
      "content": "<p>Locally my best models perform over 0.8 at 512x512. Public LB is still much lower.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Locally my best models perform over 0.8 at 512x512. Public LB is still much lower.",
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    },
    {
      "id": "414387",
      "postDate": "11/02/2018 16:31:24",
      "content": "<p>Yes it's easy to reach 0.8 in local validation. @Brian do you have any guesses why the drop happened?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Yes it's easy to reach 0.8 in local validation. @Brian do you have any guesses why the drop happened?",
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    },
    {
      "id": "414437",
      "postDate": "11/02/2018 19:07:08",
      "content": "<p>I think it has to do with how the public LB is calculated. If some of the classes are not present in the public dataset, it will be treated as a class metric of 0. One of the implications of this is that private/public shakeup could be huge.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I think it has to do with how the public LB is calculated. If some of the classes are not present in the public dataset, it will be treated as a class metric of 0. One of the implications of this is that private/public shakeup could be huge.",
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    {
      "id": "414480",
      "postDate": "11/02/2018 21:03:37",
      "content": "<p>I agree with Alexander,  I believe that the public LB may not be fully representative of the entire test set.  My best submission was showing 0.87 locally. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I agree with Alexander,  I believe that the public LB may not be fully representative of the entire test set.  My best submission was showing 0.87 locally.",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": "418860",
      "postDate": "11/10/2018 18:41:14",
      "content": "<p>@Brian, you have got 0.87 for local training or  local validation set?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Brian, you have got 0.87 for local training or  local validation set?",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": "418926",
      "postDate": "11/10/2018 21:59:00",
      "content": "<p>Local validation set. Thinking back a week, it may have been due to a small validation set. With my latest models that still need way more training, locally .75 validation results a .373 public. Definitely needs more time...</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Local validation set. Thinking back a week, it may have been due to a small validation set. With my latest models that still need way more training, locally .75 validation results a .373 public. Definitely needs more time...",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "420356",
      "postDate": "11/13/2018 13:42:26",
      "content": "<p>I guess it will be lower than 0.65</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I guess it will be lower than 0.65",
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      "id": 413077,
      "author_name": "hengck23",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/31/2018 08:37:56",
      "content": "<p>\"Combining the annotations of gamers and deep learning, we applied transfer learning to create a boosted learner that can characterize subcellular protein distribution with F1 score of 0.72\"</p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt.4225\">https://www.nature.com/articles/nbt.4225</a></p>\n\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/human-protein-atlas-image-classification/discussion/70144#latest-413071\">https://www.kaggle.com/c/human-protein-atlas-image-classification/discussion/70144#latest-413071</a></p>",
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        {
          "id": 413118,
          "author_name": "suicaokhoailang",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "10/31/2018 09:53:46",
          "content": "<p>Now the problem is: How do I gather my local nerds and convince them to improve my models?</p>",
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      "id": 413086,
      "author_name": "hengck23",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "10/31/2018 08:56:41",
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    {
      "id": 413474,
      "author_name": "iafoss",
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      "post_date": "11/01/2018 02:29:49",
      "content": "<p>My bet is ~0.7-0.8...\nBTW, Khoi Nguyen, you wrote that you tried to use full resolution images, did you achieve any success with them?</p>",
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          "id": 413477,
          "author_name": "suicaokhoailang",
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          "post_date": "11/01/2018 02:40:31",
          "content": "<p>It was a 3% increased in F1 so I won't be surprised if someone uses the 2048x2048. </p>",
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        {
          "id": 414083,
          "author_name": "ldm314",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/02/2018 05:00:56",
          "content": "<p>I just started with 1536x1536 based on the 2048x2048 images. A few days later maybe I'll have some results at the speed it is running, 2500 seconds per epoch.</p>",
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    {
      "id": 414243,
      "author_name": "alexanderliao",
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      "post_date": "11/02/2018 11:44:38",
      "content": "<p>256x256, local LB w. constant threshold 0.5: 0.72</p>\n\n<p>I believe that 512x512 can bring it to 0.8.....</p>",
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          "author_name": "ldm314",
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          "post_date": "11/02/2018 15:48:21",
          "content": "<p>Locally my best models perform over 0.8 at 512x512. Public LB is still much lower.</p>",
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          "id": 414387,
          "author_name": "suicaokhoailang",
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          "post_date": "11/02/2018 16:31:24",
          "content": "<p>Yes it's easy to reach 0.8 in local validation. @Brian do you have any guesses why the drop happened?</p>",
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          "id": 414437,
          "author_name": "alexanderliao",
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          "post_date": "11/02/2018 19:07:08",
          "content": "<p>I think it has to do with how the public LB is calculated. If some of the classes are not present in the public dataset, it will be treated as a class metric of 0. One of the implications of this is that private/public shakeup could be huge.</p>",
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          "id": 414480,
          "author_name": "ldm314",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/02/2018 21:03:37",
          "content": "<p>I agree with Alexander,  I believe that the public LB may not be fully representative of the entire test set.  My best submission was showing 0.87 locally. </p>",
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          "id": 418860,
          "author_name": "pinullmezon",
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          "post_date": "11/10/2018 18:41:14",
          "content": "<p>@Brian, you have got 0.87 for local training or  local validation set?</p>",
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          "id": 418926,
          "author_name": "ldm314",
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          "post_date": "11/10/2018 21:59:00",
          "content": "<p>Local validation set. Thinking back a week, it may have been due to a small validation set. With my latest models that still need way more training, locally .75 validation results a .373 public. Definitely needs more time...</p>",
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      "id": 420356,
      "author_name": "pinullmezon",
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      "post_date": "11/13/2018 13:42:26",
      "content": "<p>I guess it will be lower than 0.65</p>",
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    "412964": "Given that for the last few days I've done nothing beside watching a progress bar to finish, I guess it may reach ~0.6 with 512x512.\n\nIf some of you millionaires decide to use 2048x2048 it can reach ~0.62 I think. What are your thoughts?",
    "413077": "\"Combining the annotations of gamers and deep learning, we applied transfer learning to create a boosted learner that can characterize subcellular protein distribution with F1 score of 0.72\"\n\n\nhttps://www.nature.com/articles/nbt.4225\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/human-protein-atlas-image-classification/discussion/70144#latest-413071",
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    "413118": "Now the problem is: How do I gather my local nerds and convince them to improve my models?",
    "413474": "My bet is ~0.7-0.8...\nBTW, Khoi Nguyen, you wrote that you tried to use full resolution images, did you achieve any success with them?",
    "413477": "It was a 3% increased in F1 so I won't be surprised if someone uses the 2048x2048.",
    "414083": "I just started with 1536x1536 based on the 2048x2048 images. A few days later maybe I'll have some results at the speed it is running, 2500 seconds per epoch.",
    "414243": "256x256, local LB w. constant threshold 0.5: 0.72\n\nI believe that 512x512 can bring it to 0.8.....",
    "414358": "Locally my best models perform over 0.8 at 512x512. Public LB is still much lower.",
    "414387": "Yes it's easy to reach 0.8 in local validation. @Brian do you have any guesses why the drop happened?",
    "414437": "I think it has to do with how the public LB is calculated. If some of the classes are not present in the public dataset, it will be treated as a class metric of 0. One of the implications of this is that private/public shakeup could be huge.",
    "414480": "I agree with Alexander,  I believe that the public LB may not be fully representative of the entire test set.  My best submission was showing 0.87 locally.",
    "418860": "Brian, you have got 0.87 for local training or  local validation set?",
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