{ "id": 222666, "title": "Breaking kaggle rule?", "url": "/competitions/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/222666", "author_name": "phalanx", "post_date": "2021-02-28T14:26:39.217000", "votes": 49, "comment_count": 42, "views": 0, "content": "

Today, I got this email from @lovecode00
\n\"\"
\nHe use @sammmyyyyy (already deleted) to suggest me team merge.
\nI was curious as to who had sent this email, so we continued our email exchange. As a result, I found out that @lovecode00 had sent it.
\nThere are many suspicious statements in this email, but I mention just one.
\nHe said,
\nIn order to follow the kaggle rules, I am using my friend's account to contact you now
\nI think it break the kaggle rule, One account per participant.
\nSo I mention this to him, He sent,
\nOk, please let the admin lock the account. That's exactly what I want.
\nHe wants his account to be locked.

\n

kaggle admin, Please deal with this matter.

", "messages": [ { "id": 1220946, "postDate": "2021-02-28T14:26:39.217Z", "content": "

Today, I got this email from @lovecode00
\n\"\"
\nHe use @sammmyyyyy (already deleted) to suggest me team merge.
\nI was curious as to who had sent this email, so we continued our email exchange. As a result, I found out that @lovecode00 had sent it.
\nThere are many suspicious statements in this email, but I mention just one.
\nHe said,
\nIn order to follow the kaggle rules, I am using my friend's account to contact you now
\nI think it break the kaggle rule, One account per participant.
\nSo I mention this to him, He sent,
\nOk, please let the admin lock the account. That's exactly what I want.
\nHe wants his account to be locked.

\n

kaggle admin, Please deal with this matter.

", "rawMarkdown": "Today, I got this email from @lovecode00 \n![](https://i.ibb.co/y5C2mw4/2021-02-28-23-23-16.jpg)\nHe use @sammmyyyyy (already deleted) to suggest me team merge.\nI was curious as to who had sent this email, so we continued our email exchange. As a result, I found out that @lovecode00 had sent it.\nThere are many suspicious statements in this email, but I mention just one.\nHe said,\n`In order to follow the kaggle rules, I am using my friend's account to contact you now`\nI think it break the kaggle rule, `One account per participant`.\nSo I mention this to him, He sent,\n`Ok, please let the admin lock the account. That's exactly what I want. `\nHe wants his account to be locked.\n\nkaggle admin, Please deal with this matter.", "votes": 48 }, { "id": 1221305, "postDate": "2021-02-28T21:34:24.497Z", "content": "

I also want to share my view on this since @lovecode00 is in my team and I've been dragged into this.

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@cinthiakleiner and I have been working in the RANZCR competition for a while and we were in 5th position when @lovecode00 (allegedly at least) reached me out by LinkedIn. He said he had experience with CV, had good amount of GPUs, was in 4th place here in HubMap, and wanted to join my team in RANZCR. He also told me that he would invite me to Hubmap and we could first focus on RANZRCR and, then, once finished we could focus on Hubmap.

\n

It seemed reasonable to me at the time since I have only one GPU and we were running out of ideas. So he sent me invites on both competitions and I accepted (since he contacted me via LinkedIn and sent me the invites with @lovecode00 there was nothing fishy or suggesting a second account at the time).

\n

Today (before I saw this thread) I noticed that there was another guy (@xueyouzhang) added to my team in RANZCR, which was an account created today. So I asked @lovecode00 about it and he said he didn't do it and someone had changed his password. About half an hour later he said that he got his password back and had given me the leadership of the team.

\n

Finally, I saw this thread. In hindsight, now I know I should be more careful with team mergers but, unfortunately, it is already done.

", "rawMarkdown": "I also want to share my view on this since @lovecode00 is in my team and I've been dragged into this. \n\n@cinthiakleiner and I have been working in the RANZCR competition for a while and we were in 5th position when @lovecode00 (allegedly at least) reached me out by LinkedIn. He said he had experience with CV, had good amount of GPUs, was in 4th place here in HubMap, and wanted to join my team in RANZCR. He also told me that he would invite me to Hubmap and we could first focus on RANZRCR and, then, once finished we could focus on Hubmap. \n\nIt seemed reasonable to me at the time since I have only one GPU and we were running out of ideas. So he sent me invites on both competitions and I accepted (since he contacted me via LinkedIn and sent me the invites with @lovecode00 there was nothing fishy or suggesting a second account at the time). \n\nToday (before I saw this thread) I noticed that there was another guy (@xueyouzhang) added to my team in RANZCR, which was an account created today. So I asked @lovecode00 about it and he said he didn't do it and someone had changed his password. About half an hour later he said that he got his password back and had given me the leadership of the team.\n\nFinally, I saw this thread. In hindsight, now I know I should be more careful with team mergers but, unfortunately, it is already done.", "votes": 10, "replies": [ { "id": 1221784, "postDate": "2021-03-01T09:22:01Z", "content": "

@arc144 @itsuki9180 a strange coincidence: top5 RANZCR and HuBMAP

\n
\n

Hi Dung! I'm now in the top 5 of RAZCR and want to find someone to work with. So do you want to finish it together? I have a slack channel about RANZCR so that we can talk about our ideas on it. I also join HuBMAP and also rank in top 5. Maybe after RANZCR is over we can also finish HuBMAP together.

\n
", "rawMarkdown": "@arc144 @itsuki9180 a strange coincidence: top5 RANZCR and HuBMAP\n> Hi Dung! I'm now in the top 5 of RAZCR and want to find someone to work with. So do you want to finish it together? I have a slack channel about RANZCR so that we can talk about our ideas on it. I also join HuBMAP and also rank in top 5. Maybe after RANZCR is over we can also finish HuBMAP together. ", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 1225593, "postDate": "2021-03-03T18:20:12.550Z", "content": "

I also received a email which have similar meaning but in Chinese. At that time I am ranked at 10th in RANZCR. And I cannot find any Chinese user at top 5 team. Which make me very confused.
\nNow seems thing clear.

", "rawMarkdown": "I also received a email which have similar meaning but in Chinese. At that time I am ranked at 10th in RANZCR. And I cannot find any Chinese user at top 5 team. Which make me very confused.\nNow seems thing clear.", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 1221174, "postDate": "2021-02-28T18:06:45.360Z", "content": "

I received an email with almost the same wording, and it was sent by @ereason.
\nHis claim that he is also in the gold zone with RANZCR and HuBMAP coincides with his claim that he is using a friend's account.
\nBased on his behavior and the date and time he created the account, it is clear that it is someone's second or later account.
\nI have reported this issue to the Kaggle Team, but have not received a response yet.

\n

Here's what the email said

\n
Hi my friend! My team is now in the top 5 of RAZCR and we want to find someone who are equally passionate about deep learning to work with. So may I ask if you want to finish this competition together?(I only want to study and try to win a medal so I don't care about the prize money.) I have a slack channel about RANZCR so that we can talk about our ideas on it. \nI also join HuBMAP and also rank in top 5. Maybe after RANZCR is over we can also finish HuBMAP together :)\nIf you are interested, you are welcome to contact me via email and we can discuss more details. In order to follow the kaggle rules, I am using my friend's account to contact you now, and I will show you my account later if you are interested in my suggestion:)\n\nRegards,\nDean\n
\n

(3/1 7:56 updated)
\nI confirmed his account is deleted.
\nWhat's going on?

", "rawMarkdown": "I received an email with almost the same wording, and it was sent by @ereason.\nHis claim that he is also in the gold zone with RANZCR and HuBMAP coincides with his claim that he is using a friend's account.\nBased on his behavior and the date and time he created the account, it is clear that it is someone's second or later account.\nI have reported this issue to the Kaggle Team, but have not received a response yet.\n\nHere's what the email said\n```\nHi my friend! My team is now in the top 5 of RAZCR and we want to find someone who are equally passionate about deep learning to work with. So may I ask if you want to finish this competition together?(I only want to study and try to win a medal so I don't care about the prize money.) I have a slack channel about RANZCR so that we can talk about our ideas on it. \nI also join HuBMAP and also rank in top 5. Maybe after RANZCR is over we can also finish HuBMAP together :)\nIf you are interested, you are welcome to contact me via email and we can discuss more details. In order to follow the kaggle rules, I am using my friend's account to contact you now, and I will show you my account later if you are interested in my suggestion:)\n\nRegards,\nDean\n```\n\n(3/1 7:56 updated)\nI confirmed his account is deleted.\nWhat's going on?", "votes": 5 }, { "id": 1223083, "postDate": "2021-03-02T12:19:52.470Z", "content": "

I received this email as well, asking to team up in RANZCR. Normally I would think this is suspicious, but after he disclosed his true identity and followed me on Kaggle (now unfollowed), I saw that @arc144 (Eduardo) was part of the team so I thought it was reasonable to accept his request. Naively I didn't think to reach out to him first.

\n

He created a Slack channel and invited me to it, where we had some exchange. When I went back to it a day later, all his messages were deleted.

", "rawMarkdown": "I received this email as well, asking to team up in RANZCR. Normally I would think this is suspicious, but after he disclosed his true identity and followed me on Kaggle (now unfollowed), I saw that @arc144 (Eduardo) was part of the team so I thought it was reasonable to accept his request. Naively I didn't think to reach out to him first. \n\nHe created a Slack channel and invited me to it, where we had some exchange. When I went back to it a day later, all his messages were deleted. ", "votes": 6, "replies": [ { "id": 1223140, "postDate": "2021-03-02T12:57:39.447Z", "content": "

@lovecode00, do you still insist it is the trap by someone who knows you in real life? I think kaggle admin should deal with this problem immediately @addisonhoward

", "rawMarkdown": "@lovecode00, do you still insist it is the trap by someone who knows you in real life? I think kaggle admin should deal with this problem immediately @addisonhoward", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 1224287, "postDate": "2021-03-02T15:33:40.427Z", "content": "

Honestly, I really don't know what to say or think anymore. Thanks for reaching out @vaillant.
\n@lovecode00 hasn't made any submissions on both competitions RANZCR and HubMap. Honestly, I'm not sure what he is trying to accomplish here besides getting banned.

\n

@addisonhoward @inversion could you, please, take a look at this?

", "rawMarkdown": "Honestly, I really don't know what to say or think anymore. Thanks for reaching out @vaillant. \n@lovecode00 hasn't made any submissions on both competitions RANZCR and HubMap. Honestly, I'm not sure what he is trying to accomplish here besides getting banned.\n\n@addisonhoward @inversion could you, please, take a look at this? " }, { "id": 1224289, "postDate": "2021-03-02T15:36:42.937Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1224302, "postDate": "2021-03-02T15:52:01.833Z", "content": "

Seems he told a lot of inconsistent lies and can't keep lying anymore…

", "rawMarkdown": "Seems he told a lot of inconsistent lies and can't keep lying anymore...", "votes": 1 } ] }, { "id": 1221371, "postDate": "2021-02-28T23:31:51.937Z", "content": "

Maybe this post will get mass downvoted, but personally I would avoid at all cost teaming up with someone new with no contributions on Kaggle from mainland China. This is simply horrifying.

\n

Evidence:

\n", "rawMarkdown": "Maybe this post will get mass downvoted, but personally I would avoid at all cost teaming up with someone new with no contributions on Kaggle from mainland China. This is simply horrifying.\n\nEvidence: \n- https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175156\n- https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/211212", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 1221550, "postDate": "2021-03-01T04:54:28.290Z", "content": "

Curiously, what do you think is the key reason people tend to do such things than others?

", "rawMarkdown": "Curiously, what do you think is the key reason people tend to do such things than others?" }, { "id": 1221572, "postDate": "2021-03-01T05:18:46.520Z", "content": "

Just my own 2 cents, that is why I used the word \"personally\".

", "rawMarkdown": "Just my own 2 cents, that is why I used the word \"personally\"." }, { "id": 1221577, "postDate": "2021-03-01T05:21:42.453Z", "content": "

I know. I just curious about the reasons in your opinion. IOW what do you think that cause these sort of issues? I cannot figure it out.

", "rawMarkdown": "I know. I just curious about the reasons in your opinion. IOW what do you think that cause these sort of issues? I cannot figure it out." }, { "id": 1224401, "postDate": "2021-03-02T17:28:02.927Z", "content": "

I am not sure what you are asking here. Are you asking:

\n", "rawMarkdown": "I am not sure what you are asking here. Are you asking:\n- Why am I making the judgement, as an individual, of not teaming up with anyone with no past contributions from mainland China?\n- Why mainland China has such toxic private sharing groups full of people with no integrity at all to exploit the Kaggle community?" }, { "id": 1224766, "postDate": "2021-03-03T03:40:11.467Z", "content": "

The second one exactly. Because I guess you may be borned in mainland China (You use Pinyin, somewhat not like an ABC. You may be named as Shu-How Cao if you were. Meanwhile you know the term mainland China and willing to use it), so I think you may know some reasons why people tend to do this.(Apologize if not. They are all based on my own experiences:P)

", "rawMarkdown": "The second one exactly. Because I guess you may be borned in mainland China (You use Pinyin, somewhat not like an ABC. You may be named as Shu-How Cao if you were. Meanwhile you know the term mainland China and willing to use it), so I think you may know some reasons why people tend to do this.(Apologize if not. They are all based on my own experiences:P)", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 1226687, "postDate": "2021-03-04T18:36:29.070Z", "content": "

You ain't from mainland China? What's your point of cracking down the compatriots of kaggle novice on an international technologic platform? Help or Hurt? What we all hope is to prevent such cases by enhancing people's safety awareness rather than belittling a certain of groups to achieve, let alone you r also related in the group.

", "rawMarkdown": "You ain't from mainland China? What's your point of cracking down the compatriots of kaggle novice on an international technologic platform? Help or Hurt? What we all hope is to prevent such cases by enhancing people's safety awareness rather than belittling a certain of groups to achieve, let alone you r also related in the group.", "votes": 2 }, { "id": 1227595, "postDate": "2021-03-05T17:02:43.283Z", "content": "
\n

You ain't from mainland China? What's your point of cracking down the compatriots of kaggle novice on an international technologic platform? Help or Hurt?

\n
\n

Your mentality to me is similar to asking a German from WWII to not condemn the Nazis.

", "rawMarkdown": "> You ain't from mainland China? What's your point of cracking down the compatriots of kaggle novice on an international technologic platform? Help or Hurt?\n\nYour mentality to me is similar to asking a German from WWII to not condemn the Nazis.", "votes": -1 } ] }, { "id": 1224450, "postDate": "2021-03-02T18:28:48.423Z", "content": "

Hi all,

\n

As you can see, @sammmyyyyy's account has been deleted. If you believe you have evidence that suggests another team cheated, please contact compliance. Please fill in all the fields honestly.

", "rawMarkdown": "Hi all,\n\nAs you can see, @sammmyyyyy's account has been deleted. If you believe you have evidence that suggests another team cheated, please contact [compliance](https://www.kaggle.com/compliance). Please fill in all the fields honestly.", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 1227578, "postDate": "2021-03-05T16:54:57.630Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": 2, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1227615, "postDate": "2021-03-05T17:21:58.400Z", "content": "

Wow… @shainrock, could you contact https://www.kaggle.com/compliance? @addisonhoward, could you deal with this problem? this screenshot looks \"evidence beyond a reasonable doubt\" and the account @lovecode00 should be clearly deleted.

", "rawMarkdown": "Wow... @shainrock, could you contact https://www.kaggle.com/compliance? @addisonhoward, could you deal with this problem? this screenshot looks \"evidence beyond a reasonable doubt\" and the account @lovecode00 should be clearly deleted.", "votes": 3 }, { "id": 1227658, "postDate": "2021-03-05T18:15:41.053Z", "content": "

Hi all,

\n

Please channel all accusations of account misuse or cheating through Compliance. Please note that we need additional information aside from just an e-mail address change (we'd need to see that those emails belong to different individuals).

", "rawMarkdown": "Hi all,\n\nPlease channel all accusations of account misuse or cheating through Compliance. Please note that we need additional information aside from just an e-mail address change (we'd need to see that those emails belong to different individuals).", "votes": 2 }, { "id": 1227966, "postDate": "2021-03-06T01:26:03.797Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": 1, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1228467, "postDate": "2021-03-06T12:33:07.327Z", "content": "

Seems his account is deleted. Thank you all for providing information and dealing with the problem @vaillant @itsuki9180 @arc144 @shainirock @phalanx @addisonhoward!

", "rawMarkdown": "Seems his account is deleted. Thank you all for providing information and dealing with the problem @vaillant @itsuki9180 @arc144 @shainirock @phalanx @addisonhoward!", "votes": 5 } ] }, { "id": 1236059, "postDate": "2021-03-12T17:59:58.310Z", "content": "

From the discussions thread it looks like a \"false flag\" action - someone wanted to take out of the competition one or more people and therefore dragged them into a team that would be latter banned (due to misbehavior of one of the team members). In the past we had (on Kaggle) several such actions, for a certain period looked like a coordinated action by a competing platform to reduce trust of people in the platform. But the Kaggle community is strong and they were not able to prevail.

", "rawMarkdown": "From the discussions thread it looks like a \"false flag\" action - someone wanted to take out of the competition one or more people and therefore dragged them into a team that would be latter banned (due to misbehavior of one of the team members). In the past we had (on Kaggle) several such actions, for a certain period looked like a coordinated action by a competing platform to reduce trust of people in the platform. But the Kaggle community is strong and they were not able to prevail.", "votes": 2 }, { "id": 1220998, "postDate": "2021-02-28T15:32:16.403Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1220965, "postDate": "2021-02-28T14:54:30.867Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": -2, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1220962, "postDate": "2021-02-28T14:52:19.377Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": -2, "isDeleted": true, "replies": [ { "id": 1220974, "postDate": "2021-02-28T15:06:42.920Z", "content": "

I got this email
\n\"\"
\nI have confirmed you follow me.
\n\"\"
\nAfter I mentioned it, you unfollow me.
\nIt was less than an hour before you unfollow me.
\n\"\"
\nIt's too strange.
\nWhy you unfollow users(maybe giba, Ian Pan, me, and other one kaggler)?

", "rawMarkdown": "I got this email\n![](https://i.ibb.co/YDwRCZ7/2021-03-01-0-20-23.jpg)\nI have confirmed you follow me.\n![](https://i.ibb.co/QbTHbQv/2021-02-28-21-58-30.jpg)\nAfter I mentioned it, you unfollow me.\nIt was less than an hour before you unfollow me.\n![](https://i.ibb.co/Hp3wYtB/2021-03-01-0-17-32.jpg)\nIt's too strange.\nWhy you unfollow users(maybe giba, Ian Pan, me, and other one kaggler)?", "votes": 3 }, { "id": 1221001, "postDate": "2021-02-28T15:35:25.827Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": -1, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1221011, "postDate": "2021-02-28T15:44:34.697Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": -1, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1221025, "postDate": "2021-02-28T16:01:40.023Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": -1, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1221270, "postDate": "2021-02-28T20:23:57.423Z", "content": "

Even if what you say is correct, it is very strange you followed @phalanx account as the fraud account @sammmyyyyy asked (even though he is clearly breaking the kaggle rule!). How did the fraud account persuaded you to follow @phalanx account and why did you do what the fraud account asked? Could you show me @sammmyyyyy's e-mail trying to persuade you to follow @phalanx, as written here?

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Then he asked me to follow your account first before merging. I did as he asked, but he never responded to my messages after that!\n
", "rawMarkdown": "Even if what you say is correct, it is very strange you followed @phalanx account as the fraud account @sammmyyyyy asked (even though he is clearly breaking the kaggle rule!). How did the fraud account persuaded you to follow @phalanx account and why did you do what the fraud account asked? Could you show me @sammmyyyyy's e-mail trying to persuade you to follow @phalanx, as written here?\n```\nThen he asked me to follow your account first before merging. I did as he asked, but he never responded to my messages after that!\n```\n\n", "votes": 3 }, { "id": 1221487, "postDate": "2021-03-01T03:18:48.757Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": -5, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1221504, "postDate": "2021-03-01T03:41:41.990Z", "content": "
he said we should follow each other to prove that we were the account owner and then let me follow @phalanx and said he would follow me soon. But after followed him I soon found @phalanx didn't fit his description. So I asked him but he didn't reply me.\n
\n

Thank you for your explanation, but could you show these e-mails to ensure what you say?

", "rawMarkdown": "```\nhe said we should follow each other to prove that we were the account owner and then let me follow @phalanx and said he would follow me soon. But after followed him I soon found @phalanx didn't fit his description. So I asked him but he didn't reply me.\n```\nThank you for your explanation, but could you show these e-mails to ensure what you say?\n", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 1221590, "postDate": "2021-03-01T05:40:14.117Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": -1, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1221618, "postDate": "2021-03-01T06:15:07.197Z", "content": "

Thank you. but this e-mail and your action look quite strange. In this e-mail, @sammmyyyyy says

\n
Fine, but first we should follow each other to prove that we really own the account. My account ID is phalanx, you can follow it and I will follow you soon. \n
\n

so, @sammmyyyyy says his account is @phalanx.
\nHowever, in the previous e-mail you posted, @sammmyyyyy says

\n
I am now in the top 9 of RANZCR.\n
\n

but @phalanx doesn't take part in RANZCR, so it's obvious that @sammmyyyyy is not @phalanx. It's very strange you believed @sammmyyyyy is @phalanx, though @phalanx is not top 9 of RANZCR. Why did you believe @sammmyyyyy is @phalanx?

", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you. but this e-mail and your action look quite strange. In this e-mail, @sammmyyyyy says \n```\nFine, but first we should follow each other to prove that we really own the account. My account ID is phalanx, you can follow it and I will follow you soon. \n```\nso, @sammmyyyyy says his account is @phalanx. \nHowever, in the previous e-mail you posted, @sammmyyyyy says\n```\nI am now in the top 9 of RANZCR.\n```\nbut @phalanx doesn't take part in RANZCR, so it's obvious that @sammmyyyyy is not @phalanx. It's very strange you believed @sammmyyyyy is @phalanx, though @phalanx is not top 9 of RANZCR. Why did you believe @sammmyyyyy is @phalanx? ", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 1221637, "postDate": "2021-03-01T06:38:18.463Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": -1, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1221687, "postDate": "2021-03-01T07:27:43.053Z", "content": "

Didn't you check whether phalanx is in top 9 of RANZCR, even though you are now 8th of RANZCR? To be honest, your story is hard to believe…
\nAnother strange thing is the message you posted. It's quite strange that the e-mail of @sammmyyyyy to you includes the suggestion of team merger in VinBigData, even though you don't even take part in VinBigData. If I were you and looked at the e-mail, I would think \"Why is @sammmyyyyy talking about VinBigData? is this e-mail mistake?\" and couldn't believe @sammmyyyyy at all, who is clearly breaking the kaggle rule.
\nIt's also strange you followed giba and Ian pan as well as @phalanx and unfollowed them, even though @sammmyyyyy asked you to follow only @phalanx.

", "rawMarkdown": "Didn't you check whether phalanx is in top 9 of RANZCR, even though you are now 8th of RANZCR? To be honest, your story is hard to believe...\nAnother strange thing is the message you posted. It's quite strange that the e-mail of @sammmyyyyy to you includes the suggestion of team merger in VinBigData, even though you don't even take part in VinBigData. If I were you and looked at the e-mail, I would think \"Why is @sammmyyyyy talking about VinBigData? is this e-mail mistake?\" and couldn't believe @sammmyyyyy at all, who is clearly breaking the kaggle rule.\nIt's also strange you followed giba and Ian pan as well as @phalanx and unfollowed them, even though @sammmyyyyy asked you to follow only @phalanx.", "votes": 1 }, { "id": 1223112, "postDate": "2021-03-02T12:34:05.620Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1223114, "postDate": "2021-03-02T12:36:17.797Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1223173, "postDate": "2021-03-02T13:29:44.050Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "votes": -1, "isDeleted": true }, { "id": 1223212, "postDate": "2021-03-02T14:13:18.267Z", "rawMarkdown": "", "isDeleted": true } ] } ], "comments": [ { "id": 1221305, "author_name": "Eduardo Rocha de Andrade", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T21:34:24.497000", "content": "

I also want to share my view on this since @lovecode00 is in my team and I've been dragged into this.

\n

@cinthiakleiner and I have been working in the RANZCR competition for a while and we were in 5th position when @lovecode00 (allegedly at least) reached me out by LinkedIn. He said he had experience with CV, had good amount of GPUs, was in 4th place here in HubMap, and wanted to join my team in RANZCR. He also told me that he would invite me to Hubmap and we could first focus on RANZRCR and, then, once finished we could focus on Hubmap.

\n

It seemed reasonable to me at the time since I have only one GPU and we were running out of ideas. So he sent me invites on both competitions and I accepted (since he contacted me via LinkedIn and sent me the invites with @lovecode00 there was nothing fishy or suggesting a second account at the time).

\n

Today (before I saw this thread) I noticed that there was another guy (@xueyouzhang) added to my team in RANZCR, which was an account created today. So I asked @lovecode00 about it and he said he didn't do it and someone had changed his password. About half an hour later he said that he got his password back and had given me the leadership of the team.

\n

Finally, I saw this thread. In hindsight, now I know I should be more careful with team mergers but, unfortunately, it is already done.

", "votes": 10, "replies": [ { "id": 1221784, "author_name": "DungNB", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T09:22:01", "content": "

@arc144 @itsuki9180 a strange coincidence: top5 RANZCR and HuBMAP

\n
\n

Hi Dung! I'm now in the top 5 of RAZCR and want to find someone to work with. So do you want to finish it together? I have a slack channel about RANZCR so that we can talk about our ideas on it. I also join HuBMAP and also rank in top 5. Maybe after RANZCR is over we can also finish HuBMAP together.

\n
", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1225593, "author_name": "sheep", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-03T18:20:12.550000", "content": "

I also received a email which have similar meaning but in Chinese. At that time I am ranked at 10th in RANZCR. And I cannot find any Chinese user at top 5 team. Which make me very confused.
\nNow seems thing clear.

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1221174, "author_name": "ITK8191", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T18:06:45.360000", "content": "

I received an email with almost the same wording, and it was sent by @ereason.
\nHis claim that he is also in the gold zone with RANZCR and HuBMAP coincides with his claim that he is using a friend's account.
\nBased on his behavior and the date and time he created the account, it is clear that it is someone's second or later account.
\nI have reported this issue to the Kaggle Team, but have not received a response yet.

\n

Here's what the email said

\n
Hi my friend! My team is now in the top 5 of RAZCR and we want to find someone who are equally passionate about deep learning to work with. So may I ask if you want to finish this competition together?(I only want to study and try to win a medal so I don't care about the prize money.) I have a slack channel about RANZCR so that we can talk about our ideas on it. \nI also join HuBMAP and also rank in top 5. Maybe after RANZCR is over we can also finish HuBMAP together :)\nIf you are interested, you are welcome to contact me via email and we can discuss more details. In order to follow the kaggle rules, I am using my friend's account to contact you now, and I will show you my account later if you are interested in my suggestion:)\n\nRegards,\nDean\n
\n

(3/1 7:56 updated)
\nI confirmed his account is deleted.
\nWhat's going on?

", "votes": 5, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1223083, "author_name": "Ian Pan", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T12:19:52.470000", "content": "

I received this email as well, asking to team up in RANZCR. Normally I would think this is suspicious, but after he disclosed his true identity and followed me on Kaggle (now unfollowed), I saw that @arc144 (Eduardo) was part of the team so I thought it was reasonable to accept his request. Naively I didn't think to reach out to him first.

\n

He created a Slack channel and invited me to it, where we had some exchange. When I went back to it a day later, all his messages were deleted.

", "votes": 6, "replies": [ { "id": 1223140, "author_name": "mamas", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T12:57:39.447000", "content": "

@lovecode00, do you still insist it is the trap by someone who knows you in real life? I think kaggle admin should deal with this problem immediately @addisonhoward

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1224287, "author_name": "Eduardo Rocha de Andrade", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T15:33:40.427000", "content": "

Honestly, I really don't know what to say or think anymore. Thanks for reaching out @vaillant.
\n@lovecode00 hasn't made any submissions on both competitions RANZCR and HubMap. Honestly, I'm not sure what he is trying to accomplish here besides getting banned.

\n

@addisonhoward @inversion could you, please, take a look at this?

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1224289, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T15:36:42.937000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1224302, "author_name": "mamas", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T15:52:01.833000", "content": "

Seems he told a lot of inconsistent lies and can't keep lying anymore…

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1221371, "author_name": "Shuhao Cao", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T23:31:51.937000", "content": "

Maybe this post will get mass downvoted, but personally I would avoid at all cost teaming up with someone new with no contributions on Kaggle from mainland China. This is simply horrifying.

\n

Evidence:

\n", "votes": 3, "replies": [ { "id": 1221550, "author_name": "Shihao Shao", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T04:54:28.290000", "content": "

Curiously, what do you think is the key reason people tend to do such things than others?

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221572, "author_name": "Shuhao Cao", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T05:18:46.520000", "content": "

Just my own 2 cents, that is why I used the word \"personally\".

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221577, "author_name": "Shihao Shao", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T05:21:42.453000", "content": "

I know. I just curious about the reasons in your opinion. IOW what do you think that cause these sort of issues? I cannot figure it out.

", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1224401, "author_name": "Shuhao Cao", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T17:28:02.927000", "content": "

I am not sure what you are asking here. Are you asking:

\n", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1224766, "author_name": "Shihao Shao", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-03T03:40:11.467000", "content": "

The second one exactly. Because I guess you may be borned in mainland China (You use Pinyin, somewhat not like an ABC. You may be named as Shu-How Cao if you were. Meanwhile you know the term mainland China and willing to use it), so I think you may know some reasons why people tend to do this.(Apologize if not. They are all based on my own experiences:P)

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1226687, "author_name": "朴大福", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-04T18:36:29.070000", "content": "

You ain't from mainland China? What's your point of cracking down the compatriots of kaggle novice on an international technologic platform? Help or Hurt? What we all hope is to prevent such cases by enhancing people's safety awareness rather than belittling a certain of groups to achieve, let alone you r also related in the group.

", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1227595, "author_name": "Shuhao Cao", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-05T17:02:43.283000", "content": "
\n

You ain't from mainland China? What's your point of cracking down the compatriots of kaggle novice on an international technologic platform? Help or Hurt?

\n
\n

Your mentality to me is similar to asking a German from WWII to not condemn the Nazis.

", "votes": -1, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1224450, "author_name": "Addison Howard", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T18:28:48.423000", "content": "

Hi all,

\n

As you can see, @sammmyyyyy's account has been deleted. If you believe you have evidence that suggests another team cheated, please contact compliance. Please fill in all the fields honestly.

", "votes": 1, "replies": [ { "id": 1227578, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-05T16:54:57.630000", "content": "", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1227615, "author_name": "mamas", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-05T17:21:58.400000", "content": "

Wow… @shainrock, could you contact https://www.kaggle.com/compliance? @addisonhoward, could you deal with this problem? this screenshot looks \"evidence beyond a reasonable doubt\" and the account @lovecode00 should be clearly deleted.

", "votes": 3, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1227658, "author_name": "Addison Howard", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-05T18:15:41.053000", "content": "

Hi all,

\n

Please channel all accusations of account misuse or cheating through Compliance. Please note that we need additional information aside from just an e-mail address change (we'd need to see that those emails belong to different individuals).

", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1227966, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-06T01:26:03.797000", "content": "", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1228467, "author_name": "mamas", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-06T12:33:07.327000", "content": "

Seems his account is deleted. Thank you all for providing information and dealing with the problem @vaillant @itsuki9180 @arc144 @shainirock @phalanx @addisonhoward!

", "votes": 5, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1236059, "author_name": "Gabriel Preda", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-12T17:59:58.310000", "content": "

From the discussions thread it looks like a \"false flag\" action - someone wanted to take out of the competition one or more people and therefore dragged them into a team that would be latter banned (due to misbehavior of one of the team members). In the past we had (on Kaggle) several such actions, for a certain period looked like a coordinated action by a competing platform to reduce trust of people in the platform. But the Kaggle community is strong and they were not able to prevail.

", "votes": 2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1220998, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T15:32:16.403000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1220965, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T14:54:30.867000", "content": "", "votes": -2, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1220962, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T14:52:19.377000", "content": "", "votes": -2, "replies": [ { "id": 1220974, "author_name": "phalanx", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T15:06:42.920000", "content": "

I got this email
\n\"\"
\nI have confirmed you follow me.
\n\"\"
\nAfter I mentioned it, you unfollow me.
\nIt was less than an hour before you unfollow me.
\n\"\"
\nIt's too strange.
\nWhy you unfollow users(maybe giba, Ian Pan, me, and other one kaggler)?

", "votes": 3, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221001, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T15:35:25.827000", "content": "", "votes": -1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221011, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T15:44:34.697000", "content": "", "votes": -1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221025, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T16:01:40.023000", "content": "", "votes": -1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221270, "author_name": "mamas", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-02-28T20:23:57.423000", "content": "

Even if what you say is correct, it is very strange you followed @phalanx account as the fraud account @sammmyyyyy asked (even though he is clearly breaking the kaggle rule!). How did the fraud account persuaded you to follow @phalanx account and why did you do what the fraud account asked? Could you show me @sammmyyyyy's e-mail trying to persuade you to follow @phalanx, as written here?

\n
Then he asked me to follow your account first before merging. I did as he asked, but he never responded to my messages after that!\n
", "votes": 3, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221487, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T03:18:48.757000", "content": "", "votes": -5, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221504, "author_name": "mamas", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T03:41:41.990000", "content": "
he said we should follow each other to prove that we were the account owner and then let me follow @phalanx and said he would follow me soon. But after followed him I soon found @phalanx didn't fit his description. So I asked him but he didn't reply me.\n
\n

Thank you for your explanation, but could you show these e-mails to ensure what you say?

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221590, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T05:40:14.117000", "content": "", "votes": -1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221618, "author_name": "mamas", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T06:15:07.197000", "content": "

Thank you. but this e-mail and your action look quite strange. In this e-mail, @sammmyyyyy says

\n
Fine, but first we should follow each other to prove that we really own the account. My account ID is phalanx, you can follow it and I will follow you soon. \n
\n

so, @sammmyyyyy says his account is @phalanx.
\nHowever, in the previous e-mail you posted, @sammmyyyyy says

\n
I am now in the top 9 of RANZCR.\n
\n

but @phalanx doesn't take part in RANZCR, so it's obvious that @sammmyyyyy is not @phalanx. It's very strange you believed @sammmyyyyy is @phalanx, though @phalanx is not top 9 of RANZCR. Why did you believe @sammmyyyyy is @phalanx?

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221637, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T06:38:18.463000", "content": "", "votes": -1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1221687, "author_name": "mamas", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-01T07:27:43.053000", "content": "

Didn't you check whether phalanx is in top 9 of RANZCR, even though you are now 8th of RANZCR? To be honest, your story is hard to believe…
\nAnother strange thing is the message you posted. It's quite strange that the e-mail of @sammmyyyyy to you includes the suggestion of team merger in VinBigData, even though you don't even take part in VinBigData. If I were you and looked at the e-mail, I would think \"Why is @sammmyyyyy talking about VinBigData? is this e-mail mistake?\" and couldn't believe @sammmyyyyy at all, who is clearly breaking the kaggle rule.
\nIt's also strange you followed giba and Ian pan as well as @phalanx and unfollowed them, even though @sammmyyyyy asked you to follow only @phalanx.

", "votes": 1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1223112, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T12:34:05.620000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1223114, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T12:36:17.797000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1223173, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T13:29:44.050000", "content": "", "votes": -1, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1223212, "author_name": "", "author_url": "", "post_date": "2021-03-02T14:13:18.267000", "content": "", "votes": 0, "replies": [] } ] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "1220946": "Today, I got this email from @lovecode00 \n![](https://i.ibb.co/y5C2mw4/2021-02-28-23-23-16.jpg)\nHe use @sammmyyyyy (already deleted) to suggest me team merge.\nI was curious as to who had sent this email, so we continued our email exchange. As a result, I found out that @lovecode00 had sent it.\nThere are many suspicious statements in this email, but I mention just one.\nHe said,\n`In order to follow the kaggle rules, I am using my friend's account to contact you now`\nI think it break the kaggle rule, `One account per participant`.\nSo I mention this to him, He sent,\n`Ok, please let the admin lock the account. That's exactly what I want. `\nHe wants his account to be locked.\n\nkaggle admin, Please deal with this matter.", "1221305": "I also want to share my view on this since @lovecode00 is in my team and I've been dragged into this. \n\n@cinthiakleiner and I have been working in the RANZCR competition for a while and we were in 5th position when @lovecode00 (allegedly at least) reached me out by LinkedIn. He said he had experience with CV, had good amount of GPUs, was in 4th place here in HubMap, and wanted to join my team in RANZCR. He also told me that he would invite me to Hubmap and we could first focus on RANZRCR and, then, once finished we could focus on Hubmap. \n\nIt seemed reasonable to me at the time since I have only one GPU and we were running out of ideas. So he sent me invites on both competitions and I accepted (since he contacted me via LinkedIn and sent me the invites with @lovecode00 there was nothing fishy or suggesting a second account at the time). \n\nToday (before I saw this thread) I noticed that there was another guy (@xueyouzhang) added to my team in RANZCR, which was an account created today. So I asked @lovecode00 about it and he said he didn't do it and someone had changed his password. About half an hour later he said that he got his password back and had given me the leadership of the team.\n\nFinally, I saw this thread. In hindsight, now I know I should be more careful with team mergers but, unfortunately, it is already done.", "1221174": "I received an email with almost the same wording, and it was sent by @ereason.\nHis claim that he is also in the gold zone with RANZCR and HuBMAP coincides with his claim that he is using a friend's account.\nBased on his behavior and the date and time he created the account, it is clear that it is someone's second or later account.\nI have reported this issue to the Kaggle Team, but have not received a response yet.\n\nHere's what the email said\n```\nHi my friend! My team is now in the top 5 of RAZCR and we want to find someone who are equally passionate about deep learning to work with. So may I ask if you want to finish this competition together?(I only want to study and try to win a medal so I don't care about the prize money.) I have a slack channel about RANZCR so that we can talk about our ideas on it. \nI also join HuBMAP and also rank in top 5. Maybe after RANZCR is over we can also finish HuBMAP together :)\nIf you are interested, you are welcome to contact me via email and we can discuss more details. In order to follow the kaggle rules, I am using my friend's account to contact you now, and I will show you my account later if you are interested in my suggestion:)\n\nRegards,\nDean\n```\n\n(3/1 7:56 updated)\nI confirmed his account is deleted.\nWhat's going on?", "1223083": "I received this email as well, asking to team up in RANZCR. Normally I would think this is suspicious, but after he disclosed his true identity and followed me on Kaggle (now unfollowed), I saw that @arc144 (Eduardo) was part of the team so I thought it was reasonable to accept his request. Naively I didn't think to reach out to him first. \n\nHe created a Slack channel and invited me to it, where we had some exchange. When I went back to it a day later, all his messages were deleted. ", "1221371": "Maybe this post will get mass downvoted, but personally I would avoid at all cost teaming up with someone new with no contributions on Kaggle from mainland China. This is simply horrifying.\n\nEvidence: \n- https://www.kaggle.com/c/siim-isic-melanoma-classification/discussion/175156\n- https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/211212", "1224450": "Hi all,\n\nAs you can see, @sammmyyyyy's account has been deleted. If you believe you have evidence that suggests another team cheated, please contact [compliance](https://www.kaggle.com/compliance). Please fill in all the fields honestly.", "1236059": "From the discussions thread it looks like a \"false flag\" action - someone wanted to take out of the competition one or more people and therefore dragged them into a team that would be latter banned (due to misbehavior of one of the team members). In the past we had (on Kaggle) several such actions, for a certain period looked like a coordinated action by a competing platform to reduce trust of people in the platform. But the Kaggle community is strong and they were not able to prevail.", "1220998": "", "1220965": "", "1220962": "" } }