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In the Code Requirements, it's mentioned that we can submit TPU notebooks. But as we know, a TPU notebook requires internet access ON and code competition requires internet access OFF, which is creating confusion here. It would be really nice if the organizers clear it.
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In the Code Requirements, it's mentioned that we can submit TPU notebooks. But as we know, a TPU notebook requires internet access ON and code competition requires internet access OFF, which is creating confusion here. It would be really nice if the organizers clear it.
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Thank you for pointing this out, @awsaf49 . You are correct: running TPUs requires internet access but this competition has a strict no internet access for security reasons. We will notify the competition team to point out this inconsistency.
\nOne potential work around is posted here:
\nFrom Martin Gorner of Kaggle: \"The internet connection is required for TPUs. TPUs read data from GCS which is a data service connected through the internet. If you want to use TPUs in a competition with a hidden dataset and a strict \"no internet\" rule for submissions, pease use TPUs for training and use a separate notebook for inference-only submissions.\"
I hope this helps; I will let you know once we hear back regarding the inconsistency with respect to TPUs.
", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for pointing this out, @awsaf49 . You are correct: running TPUs requires internet access but this competition has a strict no internet access for security reasons. We will notify the competition team to point out this inconsistency.\n\nOne potential work around is posted [here](https://www.kaggle.com/product-feedback/129828): \nFrom Martin Gorner of Kaggle: \"The internet connection is required for TPUs. TPUs read data from GCS which is a data service connected through the internet. If you want to use TPUs in a competition with a hidden dataset and a strict \"no internet\" rule for submissions, pease use TPUs for training and use a separate notebook for inference-only submissions.\"\n\nI hope this helps; I will let you know once we hear back regarding the inconsistency with respect to TPUs.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1096513", "postDate": "11/30/2020 14:59:19", "content": "Thank you for your response.
", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for your response.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1096550", "postDate": "11/30/2020 15:36:35", "content": "Just to add onto Brendan's comment you are not prevented from training with internet access, only the submission. So you can train with a TPU and then submit via GPU.
", "rawMarkdown": "Just to add onto Brendan's comment you are not prevented from training with internet access, only the submission. So you can train with a TPU and then submit via GPU.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1096561", "postDate": "11/30/2020 15:50:09", "content": "Hi @budsims if you could also clear the doubts on the following discussion thread it would be really helpful.
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198948
", "rawMarkdown": "Hi @budsims if you could also clear the doubts on the following discussion thread it would be really helpful.\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198948", "votes": null }, { "id": "1096611", "postDate": "11/30/2020 16:38:01", "content": "@yovinyahathugoda - will do and thank you for providing the link.
", "rawMarkdown": "yovinyahathugoda - will do and thank you for providing the link.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1096658", "postDate": "11/30/2020 17:10:42", "content": "Instructions https://www.kaggle.com/marcosnovaes/hubmap-unet-keras-model-fit-with-tpu
", "rawMarkdown": "Instructions [https://www.kaggle.com/marcosnovaes/hubmap-unet-keras-model-fit-with-tpu](https://www.kaggle.com/marcosnovaes/hubmap-unet-keras-model-fit-with-tpu)", "votes": null }, { "id": "1096662", "postDate": "11/30/2020 17:14:06", "content": "@budsims I think in most of the competition I can train using TPU and then submit using GPU. But in this competition, it is specifically mentioned that we can use TPU notebook for submission that what confused me.
", "rawMarkdown": "budsims I think in most of the competition I can train using TPU and then submit using GPU. But in this competition, it is specifically mentioned that we can use TPU notebook for submission that what confused me.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1096669", "postDate": "11/30/2020 17:22:30", "content": "@awsaf49 understood. Thank you for explaining and we will make the language clearer.
", "rawMarkdown": "awsaf49 understood. Thank you for explaining and we will make the language clearer.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1096784", "postDate": "11/30/2020 19:19:44", "content": "They just updated the requirements to state:
\n\n", "rawMarkdown": "They just updated the requirements to state:\n> TPUs will not be available for making submissions to this competition. You are still welcome to use them for training models. A walk-through for how to train on TPUs and run inference/submit on GPUs, see our TPU Docs.", "votes": null }, { "id": "1102044", "postDate": "12/04/2020 14:09:00", "content": "TPUs will not be available for making submissions to this competition. You are still welcome to use them for training models. A walk-through for how to train on TPUs and run inference/submit on GPUs, see our TPU Docs.
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Thank you for explaining
", "rawMarkdown": "Thank you for explaining", "votes": null } ], "comments": [ { "id": 1096504, "author_name": "brendandoohan", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/30/2020 14:51:05", "content": "Thank you for pointing this out, @awsaf49 . You are correct: running TPUs requires internet access but this competition has a strict no internet access for security reasons. We will notify the competition team to point out this inconsistency.
\nOne potential work around is posted here:
\nFrom Martin Gorner of Kaggle: \"The internet connection is required for TPUs. TPUs read data from GCS which is a data service connected through the internet. If you want to use TPUs in a competition with a hidden dataset and a strict \"no internet\" rule for submissions, pease use TPUs for training and use a separate notebook for inference-only submissions.\"
I hope this helps; I will let you know once we hear back regarding the inconsistency with respect to TPUs.
", "votes": null, "replies": [ { "id": 1096513, "author_name": "awsaf49", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/30/2020 14:59:19", "content": "Thank you for your response.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1096550, "author_name": "budsims", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/30/2020 15:36:35", "content": "Just to add onto Brendan's comment you are not prevented from training with internet access, only the submission. So you can train with a TPU and then submit via GPU.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1096561, "author_name": "yovinyahathugoda", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/30/2020 15:50:09", "content": "Hi @budsims if you could also clear the doubts on the following discussion thread it would be really helpful.
\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198948
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1096611, "author_name": "budsims", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/30/2020 16:38:01", "content": "@yovinyahathugoda - will do and thank you for providing the link.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1096658, "author_name": "budsims", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/30/2020 17:10:42", "content": "Instructions https://www.kaggle.com/marcosnovaes/hubmap-unet-keras-model-fit-with-tpu
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1096662, "author_name": "awsaf49", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/30/2020 17:14:06", "content": "@budsims I think in most of the competition I can train using TPU and then submit using GPU. But in this competition, it is specifically mentioned that we can use TPU notebook for submission that what confused me.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1096669, "author_name": "budsims", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/30/2020 17:22:30", "content": "@awsaf49 understood. Thank you for explaining and we will make the language clearer.
", "votes": null, "replies": [] }, { "id": 1102044, "author_name": "lazythor", "author_url": "", "post_date": "12/04/2020 14:09:00", "content": "Thank you for explaining
", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ] }, { "id": 1096784, "author_name": "matthewmasters", "author_url": "", "post_date": "11/30/2020 19:19:44", "content": "They just updated the requirements to state:
\n\n", "votes": null, "replies": [] } ], "raw_markdown_by_id": { "1095788": "In the **Code Requirements**, it's mentioned that we can submit **TPU** notebooks. But as we know, a TPU notebook requires **internet access ON** and code competition requires **internet access OFF**, which is creating confusion here. It would be really nice if the organizers clear it.\n", "1096504": "Thank you for pointing this out, @awsaf49 . You are correct: running TPUs requires internet access but this competition has a strict no internet access for security reasons. We will notify the competition team to point out this inconsistency.\n\nOne potential work around is posted [here](https://www.kaggle.com/product-feedback/129828): \nFrom Martin Gorner of Kaggle: \"The internet connection is required for TPUs. TPUs read data from GCS which is a data service connected through the internet. If you want to use TPUs in a competition with a hidden dataset and a strict \"no internet\" rule for submissions, pease use TPUs for training and use a separate notebook for inference-only submissions.\"\n\nI hope this helps; I will let you know once we hear back regarding the inconsistency with respect to TPUs.", "1096513": "Thank you for your response.", "1096550": "Just to add onto Brendan's comment you are not prevented from training with internet access, only the submission. So you can train with a TPU and then submit via GPU.", "1096561": "Hi @budsims if you could also clear the doubts on the following discussion thread it would be really helpful.\n\nhttps://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198948", "1096611": "yovinyahathugoda - will do and thank you for providing the link.", "1096658": "Instructions [https://www.kaggle.com/marcosnovaes/hubmap-unet-keras-model-fit-with-tpu](https://www.kaggle.com/marcosnovaes/hubmap-unet-keras-model-fit-with-tpu)", "1096662": "budsims I think in most of the competition I can train using TPU and then submit using GPU. But in this competition, it is specifically mentioned that we can use TPU notebook for submission that what confused me.", "1096669": "awsaf49 understood. Thank you for explaining and we will make the language clearer.", "1096784": "They just updated the requirements to state:\n> TPUs will not be available for making submissions to this competition. You are still welcome to use them for training models. A walk-through for how to train on TPUs and run inference/submit on GPUs, see our TPU Docs.", "1102044": "Thank you for explaining" }, "source": "meta" }TPUs will not be available for making submissions to this competition. You are still welcome to use them for training models. A walk-through for how to train on TPUs and run inference/submit on GPUs, see our TPU Docs.
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