{
  "id": 198948,
  "title": "Question about the licenses",
  "url": "/competitions/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198948",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2020-11-23T19:07:02.249636Z",
  "votes": 8,
  "comment_count": 6,
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  "content": "<p>From the competition's data page:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>All data and all <strong>code</strong> used must be released under Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0).</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Creative Commons does not recommend to use their licenses for software:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p><strong>Can I apply a Creative Commons license to software?</strong><br>\n  We recommend against using Creative Commons licenses for software. Instead, we strongly encourage you to use one of the very good software licenses which are already available. …</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>There were lots of license-related issues on Kaggle recently (DeepFake, or the Wheet Detection Yolo v5), and I don't want to spend time on something that is not allowed.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a> <br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/leahscherschel\" target=\"_blank\">@leahscherschel</a> </p>\n<p>Can you please confirm which of these software licenses can be used:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>BSD v3 (torchvision, pandas, numpy, etc)</li>\n<li>Apache 2.0 (rwightman - pytorch image models, fast.ai)</li>\n<li>GPL v3 (Yolo v5)</li>\n<li>MIT</li>\n</ul>",
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    {
      "id": "1088583",
      "postDate": "11/23/2020 19:07:02",
      "content": "<p>From the competition's data page:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p>All data and all <strong>code</strong> used must be released under Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0).</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Creative Commons does not recommend to use their licenses for software:</p>\n<blockquote>\n  <p><strong>Can I apply a Creative Commons license to software?</strong><br>\n  We recommend against using Creative Commons licenses for software. Instead, we strongly encourage you to use one of the very good software licenses which are already available. …</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>There were lots of license-related issues on Kaggle recently (DeepFake, or the Wheet Detection Yolo v5), and I don't want to spend time on something that is not allowed.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/philculliton\" target=\"_blank\">@philculliton</a> <br>\n<a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/leahscherschel\" target=\"_blank\">@leahscherschel</a> </p>\n<p>Can you please confirm which of these software licenses can be used:</p>\n<ul>\n<li>BSD v3 (torchvision, pandas, numpy, etc)</li>\n<li>Apache 2.0 (rwightman - pytorch image models, fast.ai)</li>\n<li>GPL v3 (Yolo v5)</li>\n<li>MIT</li>\n</ul>",
      "rawMarkdown": "From the competition's data page:\n> All data and all **code** used must be released under Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0).\n\nCreative Commons does not recommend to use their licenses for software:\n> **Can I apply a Creative Commons license to software?**\n> We recommend against using Creative Commons licenses for software. Instead, we strongly encourage you to use one of the very good software licenses which are already available. ...\n\nThere were lots of license-related issues on Kaggle recently (DeepFake, or the Wheet Detection Yolo v5), and I don't want to spend time on something that is not allowed.\n\n@philculliton \n@leahscherschel \n\nCan you please confirm which of these software licenses can be used:\n- BSD v3 (torchvision, pandas, numpy, etc)\n- Apache 2.0 (rwightman - pytorch image models, fast.ai)\n- GPL v3 (Yolo v5)\n- MIT",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1088910",
      "postDate": "11/24/2020 03:46:24",
      "content": "<p>I asked about this <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198199\" target=\"_blank\">a couple days ago too</a>. I didn't see that line on the data page, I just saw the rules simply states \"Open Source\" licence. Hope they get back with an answer quick to avoid confusion</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I asked about this [a couple days ago too](https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198199). I didn't see that line on the data page, I just saw the rules simply states \"Open Source\" licence. Hope they get back with an answer quick to avoid confusion",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1088964",
      "postDate": "11/24/2020 05:05:58",
      "content": "<p>To build on top of that, I think that all public notebooks on Kaggle automatically released under Apache 2.0, so if that license is not valid it could potentially create a lot of headache.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "To build on top of that, I think that all public notebooks on Kaggle automatically released under Apache 2.0, so if that license is not valid it could potentially create a lot of headache.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1093112",
      "postDate": "11/27/2020 12:58:36",
      "content": "<p>I don't know much about licenses, but are we allowed to use code released under a different license such as MIT or BSDv3 and re-release the work under CC BY 4.0? It was my understanding that CC BY 4.0 could only be used on databases.</p>\n<p>If we are to release our work that uses open source code from other authors under CC BY 4.0 would this mean I have to get written permission from each and every one? The competition organizers staying quiet regarding this matter despite another discussion thread on the same topic is concerning.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I don't know much about licenses, but are we allowed to use code released under a different license such as MIT or BSDv3 and re-release the work under CC BY 4.0? It was my understanding that CC BY 4.0 could only be used on databases.\n\nIf we are to release our work that uses open source code from other authors under CC BY 4.0 would this mean I have to get written permission from each and every one? The competition organizers staying quiet regarding this matter despite another discussion thread on the same topic is concerning.",
      "votes": null
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    {
      "id": "1098385",
      "postDate": "12/01/2020 16:03:21",
      "content": "<p>Thank you all for your patience over the holiday. In order to be eligible for prizes, teams must use the MIT license for their code. </p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thank you all for your patience over the holiday. In order to be eligible for prizes, teams must use the MIT license for their code.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1098413",
      "postDate": "12/01/2020 16:14:46",
      "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/leahscherschel\" target=\"_blank\">@leahscherschel</a> Thanks for your response. One more question: for 3rd party code (like numpy or torchvision, etc) is it enough if their license is accepted by <a href=\"https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical\" target=\"_blank\">opensource.org</a>? Or every 3rd party library/code has to use MIT as well?</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "leahscherschel Thanks for your response. One more question: for 3rd party code (like numpy or torchvision, etc) is it enough if their license is accepted by [opensource.org](https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical)? Or every 3rd party library/code has to use MIT as well?",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1098460",
      "postDate": "12/01/2020 16:50:10",
      "content": "<p>It just has to be compatible with an MIT license (which most opensource.org licenses are), so that you can publish your own code as MIT license.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "It just has to be compatible with an MIT license (which most opensource.org licenses are), so that you can publish your own code as MIT license.",
      "votes": null
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  "comments": [
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      "id": 1088910,
      "author_name": "matthewmasters",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/24/2020 03:46:24",
      "content": "<p>I asked about this <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198199\" target=\"_blank\">a couple days ago too</a>. I didn't see that line on the data page, I just saw the rules simply states \"Open Source\" licence. Hope they get back with an answer quick to avoid confusion</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1088964,
      "author_name": "xhlulu",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/24/2020 05:05:58",
      "content": "<p>To build on top of that, I think that all public notebooks on Kaggle automatically released under Apache 2.0, so if that license is not valid it could potentially create a lot of headache.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1093112,
      "author_name": "yovinyahathugoda",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/27/2020 12:58:36",
      "content": "<p>I don't know much about licenses, but are we allowed to use code released under a different license such as MIT or BSDv3 and re-release the work under CC BY 4.0? It was my understanding that CC BY 4.0 could only be used on databases.</p>\n<p>If we are to release our work that uses open source code from other authors under CC BY 4.0 would this mean I have to get written permission from each and every one? The competition organizers staying quiet regarding this matter despite another discussion thread on the same topic is concerning.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 1098385,
      "author_name": "leahscherschel",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "12/01/2020 16:03:21",
      "content": "<p>Thank you all for your patience over the holiday. In order to be eligible for prizes, teams must use the MIT license for their code. </p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1098413,
          "author_name": "pestipeti",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "12/01/2020 16:14:46",
          "content": "<p><a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/leahscherschel\" target=\"_blank\">@leahscherschel</a> Thanks for your response. One more question: for 3rd party code (like numpy or torchvision, etc) is it enough if their license is accepted by <a href=\"https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical\" target=\"_blank\">opensource.org</a>? Or every 3rd party library/code has to use MIT as well?</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
        },
        {
          "id": 1098460,
          "author_name": "leahscherschel",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "12/01/2020 16:50:10",
          "content": "<p>It just has to be compatible with an MIT license (which most opensource.org licenses are), so that you can publish your own code as MIT license.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": []
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    "1088583": "From the competition's data page:\n> All data and all **code** used must be released under Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0).\n\nCreative Commons does not recommend to use their licenses for software:\n> **Can I apply a Creative Commons license to software?**\n> We recommend against using Creative Commons licenses for software. Instead, we strongly encourage you to use one of the very good software licenses which are already available. ...\n\nThere were lots of license-related issues on Kaggle recently (DeepFake, or the Wheet Detection Yolo v5), and I don't want to spend time on something that is not allowed.\n\n@philculliton \n@leahscherschel \n\nCan you please confirm which of these software licenses can be used:\n- BSD v3 (torchvision, pandas, numpy, etc)\n- Apache 2.0 (rwightman - pytorch image models, fast.ai)\n- GPL v3 (Yolo v5)\n- MIT",
    "1088910": "I asked about this [a couple days ago too](https://www.kaggle.com/c/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198199). I didn't see that line on the data page, I just saw the rules simply states \"Open Source\" licence. Hope they get back with an answer quick to avoid confusion",
    "1088964": "To build on top of that, I think that all public notebooks on Kaggle automatically released under Apache 2.0, so if that license is not valid it could potentially create a lot of headache.",
    "1093112": "I don't know much about licenses, but are we allowed to use code released under a different license such as MIT or BSDv3 and re-release the work under CC BY 4.0? It was my understanding that CC BY 4.0 could only be used on databases.\n\nIf we are to release our work that uses open source code from other authors under CC BY 4.0 would this mean I have to get written permission from each and every one? The competition organizers staying quiet regarding this matter despite another discussion thread on the same topic is concerning.",
    "1098385": "Thank you all for your patience over the holiday. In order to be eligible for prizes, teams must use the MIT license for their code.",
    "1098413": "leahscherschel Thanks for your response. One more question: for 3rd party code (like numpy or torchvision, etc) is it enough if their license is accepted by [opensource.org](https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical)? Or every 3rd party library/code has to use MIT as well?",
    "1098460": "It just has to be compatible with an MIT license (which most opensource.org licenses are), so that you can publish your own code as MIT license."
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