{
  "id": 198100,
  "title": "Strategy ?",
  "url": "/competitions/hubmap-kidney-segmentation/discussion/198100",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2020-11-19T19:40:33.607909300Z",
  "votes": 7,
  "comment_count": 4,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>Hi Kagglers !</p>\n<p>I have to admit I'm a bit skeptical about which strategy to adopt on that competition. It's a very new format and not easy to get started with. </p>\n<p>What would do you say of object detection techniques ? It would mean using the images directly and converting to a full computer vision problem. Here are some of the ressources I have explored on the subject :</p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1811/1811.08513.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Attention-Based Deep Neural Networks</a> ;</li>\n<li><a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.02442v2.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Detecting Cancer Metastases on Gigapixel Pathology Images</a> : this paper seems to be one of the most popular on the subject since it has several github repos available <a href=\"https://github.com/Reemr/Cancer-detection\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>, <a href=\"https://github.com/olahosa/adl_cancer_detection\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>, <a href=\"https://github.com/Srinidhi-kv/Cancer_metastasis_detection\" target=\"_blank\">here </a>, even <a href=\"https://github.com/kira-95/adl_cancer_detection\" target=\"_blank\">here </a> and finally <a href=\"https://github.com/virabehnam/CAMELYON16-Breast-Cancer-Detection\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.</li>\n<li><a href=\"https://github.com/BMIRDS/deepslide\" target=\"_blank\">DeepSlide: A Sliding Window Framework for Classification of High Resolution Microscopy Images</a>.</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Do you have any other strategies ? I would be very interested in hearing any suggestion !</p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "1084155",
      "postDate": "11/19/2020 19:40:33",
      "content": "<p>Hi Kagglers !</p>\n<p>I have to admit I'm a bit skeptical about which strategy to adopt on that competition. It's a very new format and not easy to get started with. </p>\n<p>What would do you say of object detection techniques ? It would mean using the images directly and converting to a full computer vision problem. Here are some of the ressources I have explored on the subject :</p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1811/1811.08513.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Attention-Based Deep Neural Networks</a> ;</li>\n<li><a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.02442v2.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Detecting Cancer Metastases on Gigapixel Pathology Images</a> : this paper seems to be one of the most popular on the subject since it has several github repos available <a href=\"https://github.com/Reemr/Cancer-detection\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>, <a href=\"https://github.com/olahosa/adl_cancer_detection\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>, <a href=\"https://github.com/Srinidhi-kv/Cancer_metastasis_detection\" target=\"_blank\">here </a>, even <a href=\"https://github.com/kira-95/adl_cancer_detection\" target=\"_blank\">here </a> and finally <a href=\"https://github.com/virabehnam/CAMELYON16-Breast-Cancer-Detection\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.</li>\n<li><a href=\"https://github.com/BMIRDS/deepslide\" target=\"_blank\">DeepSlide: A Sliding Window Framework for Classification of High Resolution Microscopy Images</a>.</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Do you have any other strategies ? I would be very interested in hearing any suggestion !</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi Kagglers !\n\nI have to admit I'm a bit skeptical about which strategy to adopt on that competition. It's a very new format and not easy to get started with. \n\nWhat would do you say of object detection techniques ? It would mean using the images directly and converting to a full computer vision problem. Here are some of the ressources I have explored on the subject :\n- [Attention-Based Deep Neural Networks](https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1811/1811.08513.pdf) ;\n- [Detecting Cancer Metastases on Gigapixel Pathology Images](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.02442v2.pdf) : this paper seems to be one of the most popular on the subject since it has several github repos available [here](https://github.com/Reemr/Cancer-detection), [here](https://github.com/olahosa/adl_cancer_detection), [here ](https://github.com/Srinidhi-kv/Cancer_metastasis_detection), even [here ](https://github.com/kira-95/adl_cancer_detection) and finally [here](https://github.com/virabehnam/CAMELYON16-Breast-Cancer-Detection).\n- [DeepSlide: A Sliding Window Framework for Classification of High Resolution Microscopy Images](https://github.com/BMIRDS/deepslide).\n\nDo you have any other strategies ? I would be very interested in hearing any suggestion !",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1084212",
      "postDate": "11/19/2020 20:42:23",
      "content": "<p>This my first competition where the task is <strong>segmentation</strong>, i search a little and i found <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.05178.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Graph U-Nets</a> and an implementation with <a href=\"https://pytorchgeometric.readthedocs.io/en/latest/modules/nn.html#torch_geometric.nn.models.GraphUNet\" target=\"_blank\">pytorch geometric</a> maybe could be interesting for you. I read about graph neural networks and saw that they are used in papers where <strong>domain knowledge</strong> gives and advantage.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This my first competition where the task is **segmentation**, i search a little and i found [Graph U-Nets](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.05178.pdf) and an implementation with [pytorch geometric](https://pytorchgeometric.readthedocs.io/en/latest/modules/nn.html#torch_geometric.nn.models.GraphUNet) maybe could be interesting for you. I read about graph neural networks and saw that they are used in papers where **domain knowledge** gives and advantage.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1084831",
      "postDate": "11/20/2020 12:36:48",
      "content": "<p>Thanks for the suggestions 👍</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks for the suggestions 👍",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1085206",
      "postDate": "11/20/2020 18:48:25",
      "content": "<p>To offer an alternative to standard segmentation approaches: you can try classifying small image patches, and then thresholding your inference results (or some other secondary processing step) to create a region mask. </p>\n<p>Advantages and disadvantages to each approach. I'm planning on trying both to see which works better!</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "To offer an alternative to standard segmentation approaches: you can try classifying small image patches, and then thresholding your inference results (or some other secondary processing step) to create a region mask. \n\nAdvantages and disadvantages to each approach. I'm planning on trying both to see which works better!",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "1094849",
      "postDate": "11/29/2020 02:20:24",
      "content": "<p>This my first competition where the task is segmentation, too…. I can figure out how many classes are here, One? Two? when doing training. (H x W x C) where C is the total number of classes.</p>\n<p>Thanks.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "This my first competition where the task is segmentation, too.... I can figure out how many classes are here, One? Two? when doing training. (H x W x C) where C is the total number of classes.\n\nThanks.",
      "votes": null
    }
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    {
      "id": 1084212,
      "author_name": "hiramcho",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/19/2020 20:42:23",
      "content": "<p>This my first competition where the task is <strong>segmentation</strong>, i search a little and i found <a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.05178.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Graph U-Nets</a> and an implementation with <a href=\"https://pytorchgeometric.readthedocs.io/en/latest/modules/nn.html#torch_geometric.nn.models.GraphUNet\" target=\"_blank\">pytorch geometric</a> maybe could be interesting for you. I read about graph neural networks and saw that they are used in papers where <strong>domain knowledge</strong> gives and advantage.</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 1084831,
          "author_name": "louise2001",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "11/20/2020 12:36:48",
          "content": "<p>Thanks for the suggestions 👍</p>",
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    },
    {
      "id": 1085206,
      "author_name": "paulgamble",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/20/2020 18:48:25",
      "content": "<p>To offer an alternative to standard segmentation approaches: you can try classifying small image patches, and then thresholding your inference results (or some other secondary processing step) to create a region mask. </p>\n<p>Advantages and disadvantages to each approach. I'm planning on trying both to see which works better!</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    },
    {
      "id": 1094849,
      "author_name": "oscarrangel",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "11/29/2020 02:20:24",
      "content": "<p>This my first competition where the task is segmentation, too…. I can figure out how many classes are here, One? Two? when doing training. (H x W x C) where C is the total number of classes.</p>\n<p>Thanks.</p>",
      "votes": null,
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    "1084155": "Hi Kagglers !\n\nI have to admit I'm a bit skeptical about which strategy to adopt on that competition. It's a very new format and not easy to get started with. \n\nWhat would do you say of object detection techniques ? It would mean using the images directly and converting to a full computer vision problem. Here are some of the ressources I have explored on the subject :\n- [Attention-Based Deep Neural Networks](https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1811/1811.08513.pdf) ;\n- [Detecting Cancer Metastases on Gigapixel Pathology Images](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.02442v2.pdf) : this paper seems to be one of the most popular on the subject since it has several github repos available [here](https://github.com/Reemr/Cancer-detection), [here](https://github.com/olahosa/adl_cancer_detection), [here ](https://github.com/Srinidhi-kv/Cancer_metastasis_detection), even [here ](https://github.com/kira-95/adl_cancer_detection) and finally [here](https://github.com/virabehnam/CAMELYON16-Breast-Cancer-Detection).\n- [DeepSlide: A Sliding Window Framework for Classification of High Resolution Microscopy Images](https://github.com/BMIRDS/deepslide).\n\nDo you have any other strategies ? I would be very interested in hearing any suggestion !",
    "1084212": "This my first competition where the task is **segmentation**, i search a little and i found [Graph U-Nets](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1905.05178.pdf) and an implementation with [pytorch geometric](https://pytorchgeometric.readthedocs.io/en/latest/modules/nn.html#torch_geometric.nn.models.GraphUNet) maybe could be interesting for you. I read about graph neural networks and saw that they are used in papers where **domain knowledge** gives and advantage.",
    "1084831": "Thanks for the suggestions 👍",
    "1085206": "To offer an alternative to standard segmentation approaches: you can try classifying small image patches, and then thresholding your inference results (or some other secondary processing step) to create a region mask. \n\nAdvantages and disadvantages to each approach. I'm planning on trying both to see which works better!",
    "1094849": "This my first competition where the task is segmentation, too.... I can figure out how many classes are here, One? Two? when doing training. (H x W x C) where C is the total number of classes.\n\nThanks."
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