{
  "id": 509402,
  "title": "👀 How many coincidences? 💦",
  "url": "/competitions/home-credit-credit-risk-model-stability/discussion/509402",
  "author_name": "",
  "post_date": "2024-06-02T09:08:53.392902100Z",
  "votes": 6,
  "comment_count": 4,
  "views": 0,
  "content": "<p>What does Kaggle check and how does it check?? (By the way, they don't publish the notebooks)<br>\nIt goes without saying that if 1,000 people work independently, you will get 1,000 different answers.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F14688007%2F6ee716230aa3bfedc2735168e969ad5d%2FLB.bmp?generation=1717319259262860&amp;alt=media\"></p>",
  "messages": [
    {
      "id": "2850621",
      "postDate": "06/02/2024 09:08:53",
      "content": "<p>What does Kaggle check and how does it check?? (By the way, they don't publish the notebooks)<br>\nIt goes without saying that if 1,000 people work independently, you will get 1,000 different answers.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F14688007%2F6ee716230aa3bfedc2735168e969ad5d%2FLB.bmp?generation=1717319259262860&amp;alt=media\"></p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "What does Kaggle check and how does it check?? (By the way, they don't publish the notebooks)\nIt goes without saying that if 1,000 people work independently, you will get 1,000 different answers.\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F14688007%2F6ee716230aa3bfedc2735168e969ad5d%2FLB.bmp?generation=1717319259262860&alt=media)",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2852168",
      "postDate": "06/03/2024 06:57:20",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mitsuyasuhoshino\" target=\"_blank\">@mitsuyasuhoshino</a>,<br>\nThank you for pointing this out, this look very suspicious and I have forwarded it to Kaggle team.<br>\nI don't see codes, but I can add that both selected submissions have same score on public and private LB, and same predictions for each case_id :-/</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @mitsuyasuhoshino,\nThank you for pointing this out, this look very suspicious and I have forwarded it to Kaggle team.\nI don't see codes, but I can add that both selected submissions have same score on public and private LB, and same predictions for each case_id :-/",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2854170",
      "postDate": "06/04/2024 06:40:23",
      "content": "<p>I see these teams have been removed, but there are also a lot of [Deleted]… accounts in LB (including several in the Medal Zone).</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "I see these teams have been removed, but there are also a lot of [Deleted]... accounts in LB (including several in the Medal Zone).",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2854180",
      "postDate": "06/04/2024 06:45:24",
      "content": "<p>Thanks <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andreynesterov\" target=\"_blank\">@andreynesterov</a>. Hopefully, the team that follows the rules and doesn't cheat will win a medal.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Thanks @andreynesterov. Hopefully, the team that follows the rules and doesn't cheat will win a medal.",
      "votes": null
    },
    {
      "id": "2854189",
      "postDate": "06/04/2024 06:53:32",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andreynesterov\" target=\"_blank\">@andreynesterov</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mitsuyasuhoshino\" target=\"_blank\">@mitsuyasuhoshino</a>,<br>\nKaggle checked LB for cheating after competition ends, they removed some some 25 teams (first in gold medal position)<br>\nI have reported cases mentioned by mh, and Kaggle agreed they were cheating, so they were removed yesterday.</p>",
      "rawMarkdown": "Hi @andreynesterov, @mitsuyasuhoshino,\nKaggle checked LB for cheating after competition ends, they removed some some 25 teams (first in gold medal position)\nI have reported cases mentioned by mh, and Kaggle agreed they were cheating, so they were removed yesterday.",
      "votes": null
    }
  ],
  "comments": [
    {
      "id": 2852168,
      "author_name": "tomasjeline2",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "06/03/2024 06:57:20",
      "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mitsuyasuhoshino\" target=\"_blank\">@mitsuyasuhoshino</a>,<br>\nThank you for pointing this out, this look very suspicious and I have forwarded it to Kaggle team.<br>\nI don't see codes, but I can add that both selected submissions have same score on public and private LB, and same predictions for each case_id :-/</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": []
    },
    {
      "id": 2854170,
      "author_name": "andreynesterov",
      "author_url": "",
      "post_date": "06/04/2024 06:40:23",
      "content": "<p>I see these teams have been removed, but there are also a lot of [Deleted]… accounts in LB (including several in the Medal Zone).</p>",
      "votes": null,
      "replies": [
        {
          "id": 2854180,
          "author_name": "mitsuyasuhoshino",
          "author_url": "",
          "post_date": "06/04/2024 06:45:24",
          "content": "<p>Thanks <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andreynesterov\" target=\"_blank\">@andreynesterov</a>. Hopefully, the team that follows the rules and doesn't cheat will win a medal.</p>",
          "votes": null,
          "replies": [
            {
              "id": 2854189,
              "author_name": "tomasjeline2",
              "author_url": "",
              "post_date": "06/04/2024 06:53:32",
              "content": "<p>Hi <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/andreynesterov\" target=\"_blank\">@andreynesterov</a>, <a href=\"https://www.kaggle.com/mitsuyasuhoshino\" target=\"_blank\">@mitsuyasuhoshino</a>,<br>\nKaggle checked LB for cheating after competition ends, they removed some some 25 teams (first in gold medal position)<br>\nI have reported cases mentioned by mh, and Kaggle agreed they were cheating, so they were removed yesterday.</p>",
              "votes": null,
              "replies": []
            }
          ]
        }
      ]
    }
  ],
  "raw_markdown_by_id": {
    "2850621": "What does Kaggle check and how does it check?? (By the way, they don't publish the notebooks)\nIt goes without saying that if 1,000 people work independently, you will get 1,000 different answers.\n\n![](https://www.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/kaggle-forum-message-attachments/o/inbox%2F14688007%2F6ee716230aa3bfedc2735168e969ad5d%2FLB.bmp?generation=1717319259262860&alt=media)",
    "2852168": "Hi @mitsuyasuhoshino,\nThank you for pointing this out, this look very suspicious and I have forwarded it to Kaggle team.\nI don't see codes, but I can add that both selected submissions have same score on public and private LB, and same predictions for each case_id :-/",
    "2854170": "I see these teams have been removed, but there are also a lot of [Deleted]... accounts in LB (including several in the Medal Zone).",
    "2854180": "Thanks @andreynesterov. Hopefully, the team that follows the rules and doesn't cheat will win a medal.",
    "2854189": "Hi @andreynesterov, @mitsuyasuhoshino,\nKaggle checked LB for cheating after competition ends, they removed some some 25 teams (first in gold medal position)\nI have reported cases mentioned by mh, and Kaggle agreed they were cheating, so they were removed yesterday."
  },
  "source": "meta"
}